Should I come back? by CookieSkoon < Journal | Inkbunny, the Furry Art Community

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LittleWindTerror

3 weeks, 2 days ago

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I believe Kammykay is working on one now.

CookieSkoon

3 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ LittleWindTerror

Ye, they are. I just know it'll take some time before it's ready.

LittleWindTerror

3 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ CookieSkoon

yup, can't wait tbh.

Gelemar

3 weeks, 2 days ago

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Edited 3 weeks, 2 days ago by Owner

Yeah Kammy's still working on their site, and it's coming along nicely it seems, just a few hurdles

I can't tell you what to do, all I can say is I barely use this site anymore, only to like/comment on a piece that isn't hosted anywhere else, or the very rare journal, and I'm not hurting from it.
People don't leave places because most people either have no principles or are too afraid of losing what they built. It's why many friends I have won't leave discord even if they go through with the age verification shit... I completely forgot about Stellarfur. I'll be honest, I wasn't a fan personally on how they handled the gallery thing. I know they were going for a forum/social aspect, but having the images posted in the forum instead of a separate gallery may have hurt them a bit (although that's how Twitter runs so... I dunno)

One of your friends got arrested for... Holy shit I'm sorry to hear. As far as the "friends no longer being friends" thing, I can completely understand that, I deal with that a shitton as well... I know I don't talk to you much,, one of the beauties of being introverted and AvPD, but I hope you still consider me a friend because I still consider you one, and while I don't talk much I still am happy to chat, you just need only poke me somewhere and I'll respond.

All in all, I can't really give you sound advice of what you should do, all I can say is follow what your heart is telling you to, puppy.

CookieSkoon

3 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ Gelemar

*hug* I do still consider you friend.

I've been feeling invisible online lately. Like I burned everything down for no reason.

As for Stellarfur, it died because said convicted friend was its admin. I am old, so that place was very cozy to me. heh

Gelemar

3 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ CookieSkoon

I'm really happy to hear that, dear! That means a lot *hugs back*
Ohmygosh that's really scary about the Stellarfur reason, I certainly didn't expect that, and In really sorry that happened. I do agree, it did have pretty cozy vibes, took me back to like the old Yiffstar times. It's a bummer that had to happen.

I'm really sorry that you're feeling invisible, puppy, I truly am. I hope you know we love you and you're important and you matter. While it might feel futile burning things down, you have to care for yourself and your own personal morality. If you leave somewhere because you don't like the way it's run, while it is nice to get others to follow, and possibly stick it to the ones I'm charge, the .most important thing is that you're doing so for your own morality or principles, as saying "did I stand up for my own values" is the only real thing you can control.

Again dear, please if you're ever feeling invisible, abandoned, or you just need to talk... Please poke me anywhere were connected... Discord, FA, here.... I'll be happy to talk to you, puppy.

SpoonFox

3 weeks, 2 days ago

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You could use it as an archive more than social media.

CookieSkoon

3 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ SpoonFox

That's kinda what I am thinking.

Not journaling here anymore apart from important things.

StarRabbit

3 weeks, 2 days ago

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"	I am starting to feel like there are simply no battles you can win online anymore.

Depends on how you define 'winning.' Every day I can remind people that Kevin Crackhead is narcissistic Quisling scum is a 'win' for me.

CookieSkoon

3 weeks ago

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@ StarRabbit

Fair. heh

From what I have heard, staff is much better now. My friends on it are still very much LGBTQ allies, and opposed to GR's maga-esque BS

NBbowler

3 weeks, 2 days ago

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I’d be happy to see you back here. I do follow you elsewhere, but I’d be happy to see you posting here, even if just for content purposes. I hope you do still see me as a friend, or if not that, then at least an ally 🫂

CookieSkoon

3 weeks ago

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@ NBbowler

*hug*

You are good people. :3

marshallfox

3 weeks, 1 day ago

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why did you leave in the first place?

CookieSkoon

3 weeks ago

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@ marshallfox

Check my last journal entry, you'll see.

Lunamann

3 weeks, 1 day ago

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https://inkbunny.net/s/3591270 This is the post that convinced me to stay on IB. I do suggest giving it a read.

CookieSkoon

3 weeks ago

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@ Lunamann

Nori is sometimes superhuman.

Jaker

3 weeks, 1 day ago

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I do hope you come back. I remember having a nice conversation with you in DMs here quite a while back.

CookieSkoon

3 weeks ago

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@ Jaker

^w^

EclypseSkunk

3 weeks, 1 day ago

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We could use all the allies and voices of reason we can get. Ofc it won't change admin and the top of the pyramid but it'll maybe help the Mousepad waiting room become more tolerable.

CookieSkoon

3 weeks ago

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@ EclypseSkunk

Staff I am friends with agree with you.

Paleumi

3 weeks ago

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your art is amazing and your really snugs friendly. it would be nice to see you post here again.

CookieSkoon

3 weeks ago

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@ Paleumi

;w; awww Thank you.

Paleumi

2 weeks, 6 days ago

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@ CookieSkoon

*hugs* ^.^

R3DRUNNER

3 weeks ago

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my friend gjall is working on prometheus you can start posting there now

reach out to them

websites are replaceable your content is not

CookieSkoon

3 weeks ago

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@ R3DRUNNER

Hey R3d!

Thank you. <3 I'll look into it.

CookieSkoon

2 weeks, 4 days ago

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@ R3DRUNNER

Problem: Where are all my controls?

Like, MY page, ability to upload, etc?

I cannot find any of that.

ButtercupSaiyan

3 weeks ago

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I miss your art and journals.

CookieSkoon

2 weeks, 6 days ago

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@ ButtercupSaiyan

Oh, hi. ^w^

ButtercupSaiyan

1 week, 6 days ago

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@ CookieSkoon

So did you decide to come back?

CookieSkoon

1 week, 6 days ago

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@ ButtercupSaiyan

Yep! Been posting for a few days now.

ButtercupSaiyan

6 days, 18 hrs ago

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@ CookieSkoon

Nice!

SophieHawthorn

2 weeks, 6 days ago

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sure hun

Starshell

2 weeks, 6 days ago

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I think it's worth posting on IB. Other options are in the pipeline -- Prometheus, Mousepad, others that haven't been announced yet -- but even once they launch, the current moment behooves us to support as many sites as possible, including IB if you can stomach it. Strength in numbers, on every front.

ChanceProwlers

2 weeks, 6 days ago

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I can't answer that question for you, because no one can answer it. It's a question you have to answer for you for yourself. At the end of the day we all have to do what we believe is just and ethical. Standing behind our choices is sometimes the only thing we do have. Only you can decide when doing something is no longer worth the cost of why you do something.

With that said, I would say don't just ask us if you should come back. Talk to thsoe that have left, ask them how they feel. If they came back, and if they didn't where did they find the strength to keep going.

And most importantly, do it with a head held high. If you have to come back ashamed and defeated you'll never be happy you're here. Instead of changing your mind, focus on changing your perspective. Yes, many things about the site may not be to your standards, but that means you can help build and foster the things you do like with the company you make. Or find a whole other reason.

Regardless of your decision, I hope that you find the will to stand for what you believe in, even if it isn't about this. Vote with your money, don't bow to people who want you to cut out a part of yourself to make them happy, and never forsake yourself.

caramelthecalf

2 weeks, 6 days ago

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I don't know what's best... maybe just a change of perspective. Your feelings do matter. It's good to feel accepted, it's good to speak your mind. If the world can change for the better, it's wonderful.

Try not to think of using a platform as approval of everything, because it isn't. People live in the USA, but you can literally write books on the cruelties the country has done and continues to do. A person can move to another country, but any history book will include their piles of skeletons too.

I don't know the entire history of inkbunny, but if the worst under Green Monkey's tenure is not getting full-throated approval of transgender content, but still allowing it to be posted in full, as much as anything other content. It feels like he has enough discipline and respect for others not to let his personal feelings change the website in a significant way.

At any rate, it's fine to make another website if possible, and if it's more inclusive, cool- I'll be happy to join it if it comes into existence. There really aren't enough art sites that allow cub art. Almost none, and it's pretty depressing.

Jerhevon

2 weeks, 5 days ago

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*sends much warm dino hug*

LunarFlare

2 weeks, 3 days ago

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I do very much miss Stellarfur. I don't really know what do, honestly — I'm wary of the new sites and am very much in the wait-and-see position for them. And well, Inkbunny remains my first and primary online community, so.

I hope that the owner of Stellarfur is managing best they can. I don't know if you've remained close to them, and I suppose I'd understand if not... But, well. I have experience with someone very close to be ending up in a similar experience, and it left a mark on all of us. From my perspective, it seemed more akin to a battle with an addiction and it breaks my heart to see people going through that.

CookieSkoon

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ LunarFlare

I still consider Furf a friend, and will continue to do so when she is free again. Even though many would condemn me for it, I do not care.

Sadly I cannot contact her, as the prison system preys on poverty to keep people isolated.

I've said it many times and I will keep saying it- Pedophilia is not a monolith. It's a mental health issue with tons of nuance, and should be taken seriously, and not dehumanized. Also, people need to stop assuming it always means predator, because it doesn't. Furf stepped over a line, but as far as I can tell she had no outlet or support in her struggle. That typically can lead somebody to offending - yes I am blaming society. heh

There exists no help for it outside of trustworthy firends. Speaking to a therapist about it has too high a chance of ruining your life (much like admitting to frequent suicidal tendencies). The "help" assumes you are a porn addict and need Jesus and isolation. It's way off base.

The whole thing hurts my soul.

dogens

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ CookieSkoon

I used to use this account to fuck around but I want to make it clear that I do truly mean what I'm going to say, and this isn't some misguided attempt to troll.

How is possession of CSAM excusable? I do not think all pedophiles are bad obviously since like you said, they aren't a monolith, but Furf made the choice to further the victimization of real children by using CSAM for their own enjoyment. I don't think they deserve death or anything, but they made a choice to Do That. I hope they get the help they need but I can't fathom excusing what they did

CookieSkoon

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ dogens

I didn't excuse it. You are injecting that. In fact, you jumping to that conclusion is a demonstration of the problem in trying to take this seriously. Everybody just wants to accuse to make themselves feel superior.

ZetaScales0

2 weeks, 1 day ago

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@ CookieSkoon

Yet you are willing to overlook it. How is that not excusing it? But hey, transphobia and bigotry is the real issue. That's made you leave in the first place, right?

CookieSkoon

2 weeks, 1 day ago

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@ ZetaScales0

Are you of the impression that she should never have friends and be totally socially isolated for the rest of her life?

You don't think a trans woman serving four years in a men's facility during Trump is punishment enough?

While Epstein billionaires walk free, I add.

You DECIDED I overlooked what she did. I did not. I have, however, forgiven her and I feel as though she is suffering enough for it.

You seem to misconstrue humanity and empathy for endorsement. I believe you are acting in bad faith.

LunarFlare

2 weeks, 1 day ago

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@ CookieSkoon

Well, for whatever it's worth, I myself would never condemn you for such a thing.  Quite the opposite, I think it makes you a very commendable friend.  Even beyond just choosing to not condemn someone for this, being there for someone who is incarcerated is no easy task regardless of the crime.  As you said, the system does its best prey on the impoverished and exact a toll on family and friends on the outside.  I am glad that Furf has someone like you in her life.

I'm so very sorry to hear that communication hasn't been possible, it's an agony to go through — and I know all too well just how callous the system can be in this regard specifically.  We only managed to get a handful of calls to go through over the whole length of his sentence, otherwise relying on letters exchanged at a snail's pace.

I do appreciate your nuanced perspective, as well.  My exposure to pedophilia in others has been lifelong, and I think the discomfort/disdain around the topic has the majority very quick to treat it as a monstrous monolith, when that has not at all been my experience.  Not to say that my experiences have necessarily been great, but at they have been far from monolithic, and rarely fit the stereotype.  Bweh, I digress.

Lastly, I'd like to extend a welcome to reach out to me via PM, if you'd ever want to talk with someone who's been in your same position with a loved one.  I'd certainly be glad to chat over Telegram or whatever's reasonable, just give me a boop.  No pressure, though — the welcome will always be open should you desire it, and I understand should you not

CookieSkoon

2 weeks, 1 day ago

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@ LunarFlare

I would like to answer this thoroughly! My brain is going poo poo atm, so I will let you know I have seen it and plan to write a much better response later. X3

LunarFlare

2 weeks, 1 day ago

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@ CookieSkoon

D'awww, that is so very thoughtful of you to mention! Take all the time you'd like, pup c:

CookieSkoon

2 weeks ago

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@ LunarFlare

Thank you ^w^

I have always been, if nothing else, a genuine person. That includes both liking/loving somebody, and cutting them off like a bad growth. lol

I have also been exposed to Pedophilia, both innocent and predatory, my entire life. I am a survivor of multiple instances of sexual assault in my childhood, as well as grooming when I was a teen. It's been a shadow over my life from single digit age.

I have become somewhat obsessed with the subject as a... result? In time I came to understand that a pedophile is not typically an actual rapist, and a lot of child-rapists are not even pedophiles (people fundamentally misunderstand what RAPE is about).

Society has made the issue far worse by misusing the titles, and jumping to dehumanize ANYBODY remotely associated with Pedophilia and its neighbors. The fear mongering, rabid hatred, and censoring of fictional outlets has only led innocent people to share spaces with actual predators.

You know what else predators love doing? Finding innocent pedophiles and coercing them into jorkin it to csam, sometimes even preying on the person's traumas to get off on corrupting them.

So pushing everybody into the same dark corners has YES, increased crime. Not decreased it. The "just say no" clause is based on a form of humanity which does not exist. Often also bannered by people who don't realize that they have given into peer-pressure many times themselves. Stones and glass houses.

Likewise, in Furf's case, somebody dealing with this burden life long with no way of expressing it can also lead to, "everybody already hates me, I may as well." Then there you have it, somebody comes along who cares, filling a void, and that somebody happens to be a minor. When you have no support it's probably extremely hard to say no to that.

The problem herein being, most people will read that paragraph and immediately infer that I support grooming. Exactly part of the issue. Jumping to conclusions without extrapolation.

Literacy is at an all time low.

On trauma, I have been accused many times since being open about it- that I am more likely to be a predator because I was a victim. This is such a garbage take, and highly offensive.

Many feel that way because most offenders are former victims. THAT HOWEVER, does not mean most victims are offenders. People only see the predators because... well how the hell are you ever going to see the innocent? We're hidden, we're silent, we're the majority. The silent majority.

The news reports on the criminals. It gets out. Nobody talks about victims who are just surviving with trauma. We're not interesting, and many of us fly in the face of the popular narrative.

Again, literacy is at an all time low.

In short, attraction to minors of any age IS a mental health crisis. Who the fuuuuuuck wakes up one day and thinks, "I would like to be one of the most hated and dehumanized type of people, sounds fun!"

People don't like this - but being a pedophile is not a choice. It's a burden. There exists no proper care for it. People who shout, "GET HELP" from the roof tops have no idea that there is no help. If they believe there is, they likely agree with conservative bullshit.

SPEAKING OF CONSERVATIVES

They scream PEDO at everybody they can, while ACTIVELY ENDORSING actual predators. I have yet to see the Epstein list used for an arrest checklist. Trump is still president. Etc.

Funny how hypocritical that crowd is. Even within furry.

As for my "side", the progressive left, there are too many people who believe in thought crime. They are disingenuous and harmful, and typically only doing it because it's hip and with it.

I shame any self titled progressive who is not more emotionally intelligent about such things.

firephoenixx456

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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I've been down this same path before in the past and trust me you're better off not leaving a site over a non function/need for sanity issue.

you'll eventually realize ten years later you'll be kicking yourself with regrets of what could have been if you'd just stayed and you'll be playing desperate catch up... catch up I'm still doing to this day

CookieSkoon

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ firephoenixx456

Principles do cost a body.

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