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RaionDouglas

A Venezuelan Opinion.

I know most of my audience is american and that most of you do feel strongly negative about the actions of the US army on Venezuela. I can get that. I have investigated, watched many video essays, read wikipedias and a lot more about American history and war crimes.
*I* don't really like your government. Neither from the right side or the left side, the truth is, I know your whole political space is corrupt and evil as shit. I am wary and skeptical about Trump's new actions on Venezuela now.

With all that being said, let me just give you the most honest opinion from a venezuelan, straight from my life experiences.

Throughout my whole life, I have lived under the corrupt government of Chavez, as I was just a baby when he rose to power (after trying to take over violently, might I add). Everyday things quickly became more and more expensive. What once could cost (to give you an example) 5$, now was 10, then 20, then 50, then oh wow it's 150$, and so on. I remember scary nights where one of my cousins would come in sweating and cursing because he had been stolen by thugs Chavez himself gave weapons to, while keeping the public unarmed. I have been robbed or attempted to many times, one occasion I even had someone hold a gun, other time i almost lost someone who tried to protect me against a guy with a machete that wanted my fucking phone. I saw businesses go broke, bakeries selling little snacks and whatever they could sell, anything but bread... Ive seen people eat out of trash bags, even to this day. Old people, women, kids. I've seen my government abandon their sick children, kids with special needs or problems. Leaving them without education or health care, even tho it claims it's at least free. I grew up thinking the same thing every other kid thought, "the only option I have, is outside". Why do you think I only just started posting my work in Spanish? The very first day I began my career as a furry artist I knew there was no business in Venezuela, I had to cater to English speakers. Always telling myself "if I ever publish a comic, it'll have to be overseas". And you can change the artist profession for whatever other one you can think of, and understand what it felt like to grow up here. I've watched mothers cry over their kidnapped or killed children, I've seen the ones who tried to fight back be murdered in cold blood, right in front of me a couple of times. I was thrown tear gas when I was just 6 years old with my mother during one march against Chavez that happened in front of my home.

So for the love of god Americans. At least for now, ignore the left, ignore the right. And feel like the rightful heroes that you are. Even if it all comes to bite us back, which it will hopefully not, right now, the euphoria, the hope, the happiness, the feeling of justice, that we are all feeling in Venezuela goes far beyond whatever politic bullshit you can have.
So do not feel sorry, do not hate or curse at your army -at least not for now- for they are doing what so many defenseless kids gave their lifes for. Freeing Venezuela from an illegitimate, cruel, violent and corrupt regime that began with Chavez, and will die with maduro.

With tears of happiness and hope, I can only say:

VIVA. VENEZUELA. LIBRE.
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SpoonFox
3 days, 13 hrs ago
America is now targeting to invade Greenland. They're also planning on setting up a puppet government to steal the oil reserves in your country. One tyrant is replacing another. All tyrants need to fucking fall. ALL. OF. THEM. The reason people are pissed is that this was done without consulting congress and while committing literal war crimes. There's also a chance that this fellow will be released due to paying the US President money, just like the other criminals he's been pardoning. So he might be back soon. Do not prematurely cheer.

I wish you the best, but at least two Venezuelan furries I know of are currently missing after that night too.

Your fears and witnesses have been happening in the US too. Children stolen from families, tear gassed protestors, and the like. We need to fight against the evils of this world, and there are correct ways to do so.

Edit: I'm not trying to tell you to not celebrate, but that things are not as clean as others who see this journal might see. And I hope, I pray, that you find your freedoms, as everyone deserves.
RaionDouglas
3 days, 11 hrs ago
people keep sayin they just want our oil but we all already know that, we are not dumb, we know trump wants something from us, and to be absolutely honest with you most venezuelans would be happy to hand it over, not just to trump but whoever had come to save us, had it not been the us, thats the thing, we dont care who does it, we only want these people out. in any case, maduro and his gov. was already giving out the oil to other countries, so its whatever at this point...
KevinSnowpaw
3 days, 1 hr ago
Many Americans celebrate with you, he was a monster.

now the hard part starts...your people will hopefully be able to transition to a government thats significantly less corrupt. :( I pray for all the best for your people, you have EVERY right to feel safe in your own country and your people have been trying to make Venezuela better for decades...with that dick head gone I hope you can!
Makroth
1 day, 23 hrs ago
One shitshow will simply be replaced by another.
S4ve0urfurZ
3 days, 12 hrs ago
Even with Maduro gone, there's still one more dictator left. And he's in the white house enslaving the American people. He's worse than Maduro. Trump still needs to go. No matter what.
MrAnonArtemis
3 days, 12 hrs ago
I'm not going to pretend to be an expert of Venezuelan geopolitics. But, based on what I've seen, I can't say Trump is worse than Maduro. Since Maduro has been in power, a quarter of Venezuela's population has fled. That was over the course of a decade. Last I checked, a quarter of Americans haven't fled America in the past decade since Trumpism started to spread.

Say what you will about the faults and issues with our government because there are MORE than plenty. But I think a lot of Americans need to learn some sort of perspective. In spite of the issues we deal with here, in the grand scheme of things, there are a lot of places on this Earth dealing with situations far worse than what the average American experiences.
Neos8
3 days, 12 hrs ago
Agreed
zaffrelucario
2 days, 21 hrs ago
That's a very good point.
AlexTheAlpha
3 days, 10 hrs ago
Trump is a pompous jackass, but he's not the root of the evil in the American system, just a symptom. He is a clumsy attempt by one side of the country to fight against a system it knows it broken. They don't know why it's broken, or the specifics, but they see that it's wrong and were willing to support anyone that looked "different." They don't know what else to do, and the system isn't exactly awash with options to tear it down.

Trump may be an arrogant piece of shit, but he's not starving us in the streets. Things could be so, so, so much worse.

Hopefully whatever comes from this Faustian bargain will be better than the system that stood for Venezuela.
S4ve0urfurZ
3 days, 10 hrs ago
Him and Maduro can share a cell for all I care. Trump is still a rapist.
I will never stop bringing up the trump files
AlexTheAlpha
3 days, 9 hrs ago
So far as I can tell, the files show there's been an organized child sex trafficking ring operating at the highest levels of the government for decades now. At this point I just assume everyone in a position of power higher than city councilmember is a rapist.
hellopanda
3 days, 12 hrs ago
It hasn’t worked out well for the other countries the U.S. has “liberated.”
RaionDouglas
3 days, 11 hrs ago
ok, but did those other countries actually "asked" or  should i say, *begged* to be liberated? cuz i know we did
hellopanda
3 days, 11 hrs ago
I hope you still feel this way in another month. I really do. Good luck.
RaionDouglas
3 days, 11 hrs ago
well, i mean, same ??
narby
3 days, 12 hrs ago
As a Venezuelan you are entitled to your opinion of your government. I know it sucks.

As an American I cannot condone what my country did. I have to work to live, and tax dollars from my labor have been used to murder millions of people since the early 2,000s with zero justification.

Going by the reports, this latest imperial attack by my country resulted in the deaths of at least 40 Venezuelans. Including some civilians.

My conscience absolutely cannot take it. I feel like an accomplice to murder and I likely am since I'm being forced to pay for it and its being done in my name since its my country doing it.
RaionDouglas
3 days, 11 hrs ago
lmao no, no civilian casualties, only 18 deaths, which were only from soldiers, i lived the bombings, i swa many videos about it and i can tell you, nothing important was lost and no innocent were harmed
narby
3 days, 11 hrs ago
I can't find any report mentioning only 18 deaths and only military. Every single report I read says 40 deaths including civilians. In a city of three million people I would think dropped bombs would hit a few civilians. Its like shooting fish in barrel with a target like this.

Regardless I will never condone my country offensively attacking others and performing violent regime change and military occupation.

I hope in the aftermath there are no further deaths and things do get better for your country, but I will never support this bullshit coming from my nation.
Neos8
3 days, 12 hrs ago
I'm glad you are happy and such. But always stay strong and vigilant. The man maybe gone, but now the criminals need to be arrested and jailed to make sure this doesn't happen again.
R0XIZ
3 days, 12 hrs ago
It all makes me sick. Seeing all that footage of the attack on Venezuela. It's like America has become just like Russia attacking Ukraine, and Trump did it because he knows he's in trouble about the freakin Epstein files so he's creating a distraction and he did it illegally without Congress.
RaionDouglas
3 days, 11 hrs ago
except there were no civilian casualties, only confirmed deaths so far were that of maduro's close guard, nothing really important was destroyed (hell, most of us cheered when they bombed the tomb of chavez) so... its not that bad
KevinSnowpaw
3 days, 1 hr ago
its hard to outline it sometimes but there IS a differance between sending in military personal to protect and oversee the exacution of a law enforcement action for a criminal and an invasion when that criminal is also the illigitimate president...


But yeah...it was not an invasion. The us does not own there country we dont intend to stay, I am hopeing will be there for as little as possible and that the people who call it home can finaly breath easy.
taurex
3 days, 12 hrs ago
people will cry clutching their ideology becasue is all that matters from the venezuelan people to them, dont let that sour the moment, chamo venezolano hay esperanza!, aca en el cauca casi lo mas lejos que se puede estar de venezuela en colombia mucha gente celebro. algunos piensan en volver pero van a esperar a ver como se pinta el paisaje.
Makroth
1 day, 23 hrs ago
Trump will rape Venezuela. Just like he's currently raping the U.S.
Klandagi
3 days, 11 hrs ago
I hope the outcome is positive, though I do not feel Trump is capable of actually accomplishing anything beyond lining his own pockets.
DaemonGodFox
3 days, 11 hrs ago
As a European I'm more outside of this than both halfs. While I despise Trump, and have very mixed feeling about American government as a whole (Probably from being British.) I also know I am, ultimately, to far removed to really have an opinion on it.

But if you are happy and say that this is, ultimately, a good thing as a venuzalean (?) then I'll trust your right and wish you the best.

... Trump still needs to be kicked out the White House though.
Mikolai
3 days, 10 hrs ago
I'm going to do my best not to put politics in my post. I'm happy for Venezuela's people finally being rid of a corrupt dictator. I can only hope this is the first step to clearing out corruption in the government and healing the nation. It will not be easy, but nothing ever is when you're trying to make things better.

I'm sure everyone is going to say something about politics here. But you know, at least someone finally did something. Not agreeing with the method, but at least someone finally helped Venezuela. Not like the U.N. was ever going to do anything like they always do.

Best wishes, and I hope the Venezuelan people can begin to heal and take back control of their nation.
KevinSnowpaw
3 days, 1 hr ago
you know what!


Amen!
DanielBunny
3 days, 10 hrs ago
I can't exactly say I would feel any different in your position, but given the US's recent history with invading other countries, it may get worse there.
Attayibat
3 days, 10 hrs ago
Viva Venezuela libre <3
SecretHeeler
3 days, 9 hrs ago
Love to see uninformed, hyper-propagandized, echochamber dwelling American lefties in here telling other people how to feel about events in their own country.

Happy for y’all. Viva Venezuela libre. May this hopefully be the start of a brighter future for you all.
Makroth
1 day, 23 hrs ago
Trump will rape Venezuela, cuck.
SecretHeeler
1 day, 13 hrs ago
Bro has responded to like 15 comments, it's time to log off and take a breath. Trump is your president, not mine.
Makroth
1 day, 13 hrs ago
He isn't. I'm lucky enough to not live in the shit-hole that is the U.S. And he's not a president. He's a king. He's also your king now, cuck. Enjoy your second Maduro.
SecretHeeler
16 hrs, 8 mins ago
I'm not American either dude, you really gotta relax. This is inkbunny. You're jorkin to cub porn and typing like this.
Makroth
13 hrs, 5 mins ago
Because obviously i can't have principles if i pleasure myself to cub porn, right, coward?
Icestorm
3 days, 7 hrs ago
Hey i hope things work out for the best for you.
AngyNoodle
3 days, 7 hrs ago
Me alegro mucho de que se hayan deshecho de Maduro! En serio, los mejores deseos para su futuro desde México. Sin ahondar en política mucho, sólo dire que los Americanos viven tan encerrados en su burbuja que no pueden ni llegar a entender lo que una verdadera dictadura es, ni lo que el pueblo Venezolano ha sufrido por tantos años.

Mucha fuerza! Mantente al pendiente y espero que el futuro traiga algo muchísimo mejor para ustedes hermanos Venezolanos!

VIVA VENEZUELA LIBRE!
Dusty779
3 days, 6 hrs ago
i guess in some ways trump has finally done something right for once? even if he did it the wrong way? talk about successfully failing XD

Even here in aus, we know how bad you guys have had it, and we hope that the americans dont just take what they want and get out, your country needs things fixed. i just hope its not a trump brand of fixing because that will just leave it the same. I just wish i could do more than just say im rooting for you...
Silroidan
3 days, 6 hrs ago
The left is so deep in the sauce, they can never admit when Trump does well. This was unmitigated good done in the name of an oppressed people and they refuse to acknowledge it. I'm happy that the Venezuelans will finally ACTUALLY get the chance to have a say in how their government and their lives are run.
Makroth
1 day, 23 hrs ago
Iraq.
RaionDouglas
20 hrs, 54 mins ago
Why you mentioning a country that also had a dictatorship ruling that killed thousands of his own people too?
Makroth
13 hrs, 1 min ago
Because the U.S. did nothing whatsoever to improve that place. Just like how them taking over your country will do nothing. That's why.
LexGoyle
31 mins ago
To be fair that was an invasion led by warmongers using the 9/11 attacks as justification when there was no evidence at all Iraq was linked to it. Cheyney liked war, he profited greatly from it. Bush was an idiot and his involvement in the scam seemed more about a family vendetta since Bush Sr. was not at all happy that Saddam was not ousted from power after the Gulf War. The Iraq war should have never happened.

It's a bad comparison. We went in Iraq with "shock and awe" and bombarded the place to oblivion. This was the polar opposite. Trump's use of the military has been in quick, short and precise uses of it which is how it should be when it's to be used. Oil will no doubt be the price we expect and given right now it's going to China and Russia... well better us than them and with Trump being a dealmaker that's settled multiple conflicts... well it's fair to say this is quite a bit different from what happened in Iraq.
RokukeShiba
3 days, 6 hrs ago
what's your thoughts on them only taking the head guy and left the rest of the government intact?
RaionDouglas
20 hrs, 53 mins ago
Hmm, that's kinda the thing tho, hopefully whats left just cooperates, altho we are also hoping for them to just destroy each other now since they know/believes there's a traitor
RokukeShiba
20 hrs, 49 mins ago
looks like trump wants the vp to run the country while companies try to get the oil. soooooo yah nothing changed other then the head guy gone.
RaionDouglas
20 hrs, 30 mins ago
Uh, tbh it makes sense? The entire state is like you said still runned by Maduro's regime, so trump holding power and eliminating whatever's left until the rightful president Edmundo comes back. Otherwise it would probably be hella dangerous for him and Maria Corina.
RokukeShiba
20 hrs, 23 mins ago
i mean if it makes you feel better but lets be realistic, my government dont really care who is in charge as long its stable.
WintersInk
3 days, 4 hrs ago
I do truly hope that the American's actions in Venezuela do end up helping the people there. But please remember that if it does it is only by accident. Don't thank the wolf that takes off your arm because it took a tick with it.

The current American government only cares about one thing, power. Removing a dictator from your country currently serves that goal but respecting your people doesn't. Only trust the Americans for comforting lies. They will offer nothing without a cost.
AxelPib
3 days, 3 hrs ago
Deseo lo mejor para el pueblo venezolano y puedan deshacerse de toda la basura que quedó en el gobierno para tener una transición a la democracia lo más pacífica posible. Viva Venezuela libre!
Genom09
3 days, 2 hrs ago
If the US had wanted to help the citizens of Venezuela, if Trump had wanted to help, they would have done so sooner. What prevented them from carrying out the same attack last year, or a year ago, or two years ago? The math is very simple. Any war is politics. And politics never moves without financial gain. Take Ukraine, for example. What do you think Ukraine will have to give up to the US after the war is over? A lot, i think.
All that's left is to hope that at least something will change for the better in Venezuela (which I don't believe). Only time will show who is right and who is wrong.
RaionDouglas
20 hrs, 50 mins ago
People outside Venezuela didn't have real proof (apparently) up until maria corina actually showed the election results. That completely showed they were an ilegal, illegitimate regime, so I'm guessing it was easier to help
osom
3 days, 1 hr ago
Thank you for the perspective, I was hoping to read a real opinion like this.
KevinSnowpaw
3 days, 1 hr ago
I have been laughing my ass off that the usual suspects have been losing there GOD DAMN MINDS over what, if it had been literally anybody else, would have just been a normal Law Enforcement action....FREAKING out like the fact we took down a narco terrorist dictator who murdered his opposition and killed countless people is somehow a BAD thing...while the ACTUAL VENEZUELANS are PARTYING because this dick head is FINALLY out of there hair!


XD


Im glad that hes gone, im Glad that these people will actually get to have a real election, I HOPE you guys pick a great leader.


I also hope trump won't just use this as an excuse to get at some of that sweet sweet oil...but I wouldn't be shocked if he doesnt get some out of the deal apparently were investing in building up there oil refinement infrastructure which will be good for there economy, probably expects to get a good deal on buying Venezuelan oil...I dont know, a lot of thats all up in the air right now..


I guess long and short of it it is, Fuck Maduro, And may the Venezuelan people finally know freedom.

Please ignore the people in this journal illustrating how badly my own country wants to hate itself. XD
LexGoyle
44 mins ago
Yeah that's the difference between us and them. This is a win through and through. If Biden had done it my response to it would be the same. Many things are just not left/right issues at all. This is one of them.

However, oil is no doubt going to be a major factor given the history and they money owed to Exxon and Conoco that still hasn't been paid. However, Trump is clearly a dealmaker and with the oil interests involved we'll have the security interest.  He's worked to resolve several conflicts by working on them via trade and if his pattern holds true that's what will happen in Venezuela as well. How embarrassing for Putin though. His special military operation is on the 4th year. We were done on what... 8 minutes? lol
Bloodhawk
2 days, 23 hrs ago
Thank god the guy is gone, I just hope everybody can adjust to the changes.
Giant0otter
2 days, 18 hrs ago
Australian here. I appreciate the on the ground opinion. I will also say this scares the shit out of me because trump won't stop at dictators and Venezuela and it is only a matter of time before he sets his eyes on somewhere else. maybe China when they invade Taiwan, maybe Russia when putin spreads the front into europe, but maybe greenland cause he feels like it, or Australia because we didn't sufficiently kiss his ass, or the EU because Trumps Ego got bruised.

Taking out a dictator is great but the Americans are great at taking out dictators and terrible at country building. America was built by happy accidents not because the American government is skilled at managing building up a country from nothing. I worry things will get worse for the people of Venezuela and I worry he will come for my country too.
Kidwolf
2 days, 16 hrs ago
gracias amigo, tambien soy venezolano y quiero decirle a todos los estadounidenses, no sientan verguenza, sientan la gratitud de los millones y millones de venezolanos que querian ver al dictador en una corte estadounidense para que lo encierren de por vida y pague sus crimenes

mira que vi a un artista que sigo y a otros usuarios decir que estados unidos no tiene que ser la policia del mundo, pero si no lo hacen ellos, ¿quien? dicen que es que quieren nuestro petroleo como si cuba, china o iran no estuvieran bebiendoselo como si fuera té, mas me arrecha esos comunistas que se rasgan la ropa defendiendo lo indefendible y quieren hacernos ver una realidad que no existe

trump tampoco me agrada mucho, pero al menos hizo mas que biden, quien pacto, pero cuando maduro hizo fraude el no hizo nada

solo espero que en el juicio que viene, lo condenen a cadena perpetua y espero que el proximo sea el maldito de diosdado cabello, pero creo que ahora queda de parte de nosotros los venezolanos el reparar el daño que se ha acumulado con los años... 27 años... no sera facil, pero mientras mantengamos una brujula moral y sigamos ideas claras (y sobretodo bien alejadas del asqueroso socialismo/comunismo) y sobretodo luchemos contra la corrupcion, al menos podremos vivir en un pais normal

ah, y para los comunistas que diran que estaremos peor siendo titeres de estados unidos... tienen razon, tengo miedo... miedo de poder comer tres veces al dia, salir a la calle sabiendo que hay seguridad, poder montar un negocio sin miedo a ser expropiado, miedo de ir a un hospital y que esten rebosando de insumos para tratar a los pacientes y miedo de decir en plena calle "CHAVEZ ES UNA MIERDA" sin que venga el sebin a llevarme a un centro de tortura... ah y como se que los comunistas son estupidos, les aclaro, es sarcasmo

perdon, necesitaba desahogarme
galo
2 days, 15 hrs ago
Como Colombiano me alegra sinceramente que todo esto te llene de esperanza y, con suerte, que sólo pasen cosas buenas a partir de ahora en Venezuela, sin embargo es difícil compartir tu optimismo viendo lo necesitado que está Trump de demostrar que puede cumplir sus amenazas.
Con todo y eso.
Viva Venezuela libre mi amigo!
UnbalancedFlip
2 days, 13 hrs ago
Hey, I am sincerely happy that he's gone and I wish y'all the best in rooting out whatever horrible structures he's been building for the decade and change he's had power. Celebrate! Things have a real shot at getting better now. There's gonna be a lot of reforms necessary and things tend to get better slower than they fell apart because one is done with care and one without. If anything, I hope this motivates you into getting involved to build that better world you want to have. Good luck!

But I'm not going to think of the military as heroes in this situation just yet. It's not a judgment I can jump to until I see what the actual long-term goal is. You celebrate them for the good they've done you, because a bastard isn't hurting you anymore. You deserve that.
pulsewake
2 days, 10 hrs ago
Truly wish you and your people the best but y'all should really look into getting a second amendment equivalent set ASAP or you be right back to same shit again in decade. also please keep at least 100m back from any US mining ops, private security tends to get board.
Albythederg
2 days, 8 hrs ago
I don't think you're understanding precisely why what happened in Venezuela is bad. Chavez was crazy and Maduro is a gluttonous stain who deserves everything bad that happens to him, and it's probably for the best that they're gone. The problem is that now Venezuela is essentially owned by the United States. Trump basically said as much. I ca promise you from the bottom of my heart that the American government does not care about the Venezuelan people or sovereignty. They will put a series of corrupt puppet leaders in place who will turn a blind eye as they rape and pillage Venezuela of its natural resources while barely making anything better for its people. Ask any other country that the USA has occupied and tried to play "nation builder" in over the past 30+ years. None of them come out better on the other side. Saddam Hussein was also a cruel, murderous dictator, but I doubt you'll find many Iraqis who were happy that we involved ourselves in their lives.
Silroidan
2 days, 6 hrs ago
China and Russia weren't? The US will actually pay the Venezuelans fair market value for their crude. In fact, we may pay them over going rate because we don't have to ship it across half the world like with OPEC. That money will go back to them, not sent off to cartels or the swiss bank of Maduro.
Albythederg
2 days, 3 hrs ago
I don't know why people always add an unspoken addendumevery time I criticize the United States. Follow along class, this gets extremely complicated. When I say "America bad" it JUST means "America bad." It's does not mean that China is good (it's not) nor does it mean Russia is good (it is very much not). I'm not advocating FOR anyone or anything. I'm simply advocating AGAINST our country playing world police and sticking its big red, white, & blue dick in everyone else's business. That is a bad thing to do. Look at the absolute clusterfuck that is present day Africa to see how much good colonialism and proxy politics does for the affected countries.
Silroidan
1 day, 4 hrs ago
So...just let narco dictators declare war on the US, dare us to come, murder and exile their own citizens, shake them down to the level of homeless starvation? Because "Murica Bad"? No Sir, you are the one quibbling.
Albythederg
5 hrs, 1 min ago
Now you're just regurgitating Mango Mussolini's lies. "Narco dictator?" Seriously? A very tiny percentage of the drugs that make their way into the United States come from Venezuela. Columbia has a far greater piece of that pie, but I don't see us bombing their fishing boats or invading their country. China and Mexico both pump more drugs into the United States each week than Venezuela does in a year, yet we're still actively trading with both of them. Hell, China is even a totalitarian surveillance state with a president for life.

Maduro is a slimeball, and he deserves whatever happens to him. My point, and I'm going to make this really slow and really simple because you somehow keep managing to miss it, is that the people of Venezuela do not deserve whatever our country is about to get up to down there. Maduro's gone. We should set up a free and fair election, then once its results come back, we should leave. Immediately. And take absolutely nothing with us on the way out.
RaionDouglas
20 hrs, 48 mins ago
I get that, I really do understand, but again, this time, 90 or so percentage of venezuelans were asking, begging, for this to happen. We wanted it knowing the risk, that is how bad things are and *I* don't understand what people don't understand about that.
BaphrielLucimor
7 hrs, 4 mins ago
" RaionDouglas wrote:
I get that, I really do understand, but again, this time, 90 or so percentage of venezuelans were asking, begging, for this to happen.

Venezuelan and Independent studies found that around 54% of Venezuelans in Venezuela were against US intervention, while 64% of Venezuelans abroad supported US intervention. Not saying that Maduro was good, but that 90% figure is way, way off.
RaionDouglas
6 hrs, 54 mins ago
"studies inside the country that is heavily controlled by its corrupt goverment showed people didnt want it" hmm.
Albythederg
4 hrs, 52 mins ago
I get that things were horrible under Maduro, but Iraq had Saddam when we went in and ISIS after we left. There's definitely no question as to which of those was worse for the people in Iraq. Our "liberation" of that country cost hundreds of thousands of lives and is still having serious negative impacts on their stability to this day. I honestly and truly hope we do it right this time and Venezuela comes out stronger and healthier on the other side, but....look at what's running our country right now. I'm hopeful, but not very optimistic.
Makroth
1 day, 23 hrs ago
No, they won't.
rp
rp
2 days, 4 hrs ago
Murican left appears to put ideology above rationality. Corrupt government or ruthless dictators generally are not desirable to general population of their country, regardless of left, right or religious leaning. US operation to pick up Maduro was pretty impressive display of intelligence and logistics and surely will impact US midterms. But I'm pretty skeptical of how well it develops for Venezuelan people. Trump appears to do bold moves for looks and impressions and not actually follow up in meaningful way when doing it could be difficult, expensive or politically inconvenient. Venezuelans need to help themself if they want significant changes. I understand Uruguay could actually do it in past. (If wikipedia is to be trusted which is not given.)
Makroth
1 day, 23 hrs ago
Iraq.
rp
rp
1 day, 22 hrs ago
A military coup appears very likely happening right now. Not confirmed afaik.
(might be a dud)
Makroth
1 day, 18 hrs ago
That won't make things better. It needs to be the people overthrowing the government. Look to South Korea, Nepal and Iran. It has to be done right or not at all.
RaionDouglas
20 hrs, 45 mins ago
Repression against kurda people.
Repression of the chiíta.
Use of mustard gas during irak/Iran wars.

Again, I ask you. What do you mean when you mention a country that did all of this *before* the invasion of usa...?????
Makroth
13 hrs, 2 mins ago
What i mean is the actual common people have opposed or are currently opposing their government in those countries. THEY are the ones to make things right. Not some crook with an army invading it to grab oil. Let me know when the actual people overthrow that government. Right now Maduro is in the process of being replaced by Maduro 2. And like the cuck that you are, you're cheering for it.
Makroth
1 day, 23 hrs ago
Hey, remember what happened to Iraq after the army goons "liberated" it? This is not a cause for celebration. If the Venezuelan people had actually liberated themselves, like what is currently happening in Iran, THAT would be a cause for celebration.
RaionDouglas
20 hrs, 44 mins ago
Give me one country that wasn't a brutal dictatorship that killed thousands of their own people and maybe I'll listen to whatever you want to say.
Makroth
13 hrs, 4 mins ago
I don't give a shit if everyone does it.
Onihidden
1 day, 20 hrs ago
my opinion as brazilian is fear for what the US is gonna do next, and the possibility of having my country into war.
Silroidan
1 day, 4 hrs ago
Don't let communists steal and run your country. The US has a pretty dim view on that sort of behaviour.
Ryuun
19 hrs, 1 min ago
Onihidden supports trans rights, cry about it lmao. If that makes people "commies" then I guess I'll go buy a soviet flag.
BaphrielLucimor
7 hrs, 11 mins ago
Translation: No country is allowed to have self-determination, else the US will invade and topple the government if you go in a way it doesn't like.
Ryuun
18 hrs, 57 mins ago
>"VENEZUELA LIBRE"

>New leader is Maduro's VP who reports say is encouraging the government to give weapons to pro-Maduro militias.

>Said Pro-Maduro millitias are in the streets actively targeting anyone who supported the kidnapping of Maduro

>Maduro's VP, now the president, has jailed at least 12 reporters and journalists

>The woman who sucked up to Trump for years begging her to come and liberate Venezuela, a country she left years ago, wasn't even considered for leadership, Trump himself saying "She's not popular enough with her own people". Meanwhile, sources INSIDE the white house say the real reason was that she accepted the Nobel Peace Prize she was given, angering Trump.

>Nothing in Venezuela will change except more oil going to the U.S, they will not step in to prevent Venezuelans being oppressed.


Oh and also the best part, the tiktok video showing millions of Venezuelans from America and inside Venezuela celebrating maduro being removed...turned out to be AI Generated.


Nothing Ever Happens.
RaionDouglas
18 hrs, 54 mins ago
>Tries to explain to a venezuelan how things are going on venezuela

que tal si te limpias bien ese culo y te vas a mamar un guebo, gringo marico?
Ryuun
18 hrs, 51 mins ago
Nothing Ever Happens, sorry your country has been going downhill for decades, sorry about Chavez and Maduro and all the others, I even donated money to help make sure that BastionShadowpaw could leave the country years ago, and then donated money for legal fees when I.C.E tried to deport them, but America is not going to help you, they only care about what they can get out of you, lol.

You seem to think that "They don't actually care about you" means "I LOVE MADURO THANK YOU MADURO"

No, Maduro was an awful man. But the U.S didn't remove him out of altruism. They want your resources. They couldn't give a damn about who takes over as long as they keep the oil flowing to the U.S and not to China.
Ryuun
18 hrs, 48 mins ago
Also, since you seem keen on calling me anti-lgbt slurs, Trans Rights are Human Rights.

Rather weird that you watch me and that you're even friends with me if your first reaction to this is to immediately bring out the homophobic and transphobic slurs. I guess you like hate-watching lgbt people?
Ryuun
18 hrs, 41 mins ago
You've even drawn Pride Month art, how are you gonna be homophobic when you openly celebrate Pride Month, lol?????
Ryuun
18 hrs, 51 mins ago
misclick
Spuug
2 hrs, 31 mins ago
I'm happy for you, and hope that your country can now begin to see some real change.  
But I fear that «plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose».
LexGoyle
1 hr, 53 mins ago
What's fascinating though is both the left and right have been talking about Madruo for years and doing something about him. Biden himself had raised the $15 million Trump had on him in his first term to $25 million. I remember clearly the left here talking about this guy was bad news and needed to go. Just interesting how when Trump does it it's some existential threat to your country and now I'm seeing all these "No Kings" folks rallying behind this so-called President who won elections in a similar manner Putin seems to win his.

All that aside though yeah I hope it's a turning point for you folks because this government-sponsored crime you've described has to be dealt with. The harsh reality is no doubt we'll likely be going after your country's oil in our own fight against China, Russia and Iran for dominance.

The smash everything with the military and oust the entire government hasn't worked to well in the past. In Afghanistan we spent 20 years there (too long) but we trained an Afghan military there, gave them the tools they needed to fight against the Taliban... but most, like they did in Iraq when ISIS was taking over large swaths of the country, ran off and abandoned the fight. I'm hoping this is in part the administration trying to learn from that history.

The regime change seems to have to come from within for it to stick and the people gotta be willing to fight for it as 20 years of war and occupation in Afghanistan proved all the external help won't matter because without the people willing to fight to keep it well.. they lost it all within a week in spite of the benefit of American military training and equipment.

Time will tell how this goes. We'll have the oil interest there so definitely gives us incentive to offer security guarantees. I'm cautiously optimistic on it but truly, I really do want this to lead to a better way of life for folks over there. We have millions of Venezuelans here who should be able to go back home without fear of being robbed or murdered because government basically gave criminals the run of the place while disarming the general population from even fighting back.
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