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An unsettling relevation years in the making

by Ainoko

Something to educate people (and possibly scare them too), we have been using AI for at least 50 years without knowing it.

It's called video games with adaptive learning.

Think about it, basic gaming started in the 50s and sixties when computer scientists began designing simple games and simulations on minicomputers, Pong (not programming but hardware) the first mass produced arcade game in the 70s followed by the first home console Pong (despite some experts saying that Magnavox was the first home console), the mid 70s saw true ROM programming and has been advancing since. The golden age of video games started in the mid 70s and lasted until the mid to late 80s seeing the early video game giants such as Atari, SEGA, Nintendo to name a few.

To those of us growing up in the 60s and 70s we saw ans played with the new and exciting gaming platforms. It wasn't until the introduction of home PCs in the late 80s did we start seeing video games that defied our wildest imaginations and the coming fall of video arcades.

In the 90s and 2000s we saw Activision developing such things as battle engines, randomization programming, adaptive programming and the like to make games less predictable. In other words the evolution of AI.

Tell me I am wrong

Also SciFi authors like Robert Heinlein, Piers Anthony, Isaac Asimov, Alan Dean Foster, Anne MacCaffrey and many others were writing novels and shorts with AI in them, most notable was the Foundation series by Asimov.

We have been using AI in some shape or form since WWII and will be doing so in the future. We have also been using AI with cell phones, primarily with texting and the advent of auto correct and predicting typing.

Currently AI is over saturating the market and in everything we use. We are approaching an AI crash that is going to make the Dot Com crash pale in comparison.

Like any technology that is developed and released, there will be wonder (AI 5-10 years ago), concern (AI a few years ago) and hate (AI right now), but after the AI crash, there will be acceptance and AI will be a low key undercurrent bit of tech like drawing tablets, phones and the like.

~~~Ainoko out~~~

One thing I forgot to mention is if and when will AI as we know it become sentient? We know that AI is artificial intelligence, but no one will ever know what true AI is as we may never know. BUT, we may already know on a subconscious level, if curious go and take a look in a mirror and you'll see what can be true AI (this also aligns with the simulation theory).

There is also the definition of AI to think, problem solve, create (not copy) and reproduce something that AI can do some, but not all. If we go by that definition and logic, humans, dolphins and all other animals are AI and GOD itself is an AI construct.

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MviluUatusun

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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There's no such thing as AI; it's AS. It isn't Artificial Intelligence; it's Artificial Stupidity. That's what I call it. The software is stupid and it causes us to be stupid. (Which is what I believe the government wants. Intelligence, in my opinion, requires original thinking. AI doesn't think; it searches for ideas similar to what the requester wants and offers that. As we come to be dependent on it, we stop thinking and allow the government (which controls the internet BTW) to think for us.

DanielBunny

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ MviluUatusun

The thing about government conspiracies is that 99 times out of 100 they're not secretive. They're right out in the open. What the government is using AI for is to collect information (Palantir) to use against us. However, our government's agenda is primarily that which brings in big donations--serving the billionaires, and what the billionaires always want is more money. They use AI to collect information for ads, and to replace jobs to inflate their profit margins.

Ainoko

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ DanielBunny

Read the addinum to the journal

Chimera005ao

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ MviluUatusun

What a dumb take.

MviluUatusun

2 weeks, 1 day ago

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@ Chimera005ao

Convince me I'm wrong and I'll consider changing my beliefs.

Chimera005ao

2 weeks ago

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@ MviluUatusun

Ok let's go through the list...

It's artificial intelligence, period.
Its goal is to act intelligently, and depending on the type of AI it may perform quite well within its scope.
There's no way you can say that the chess AI that can beat even high level players aren't acting intelligently, even if the manner they are implemented are through a sort of brute force approach.
"Acting" can be a key word there, there are all kinds of arguments over what intelligence actually means, and if machines can ever actually be intelligent or merely emulate it. But that's where the word artificial comes in.
"Artificial stupidity" is just a dumb term, because it implies intelligence that needs to be made stupid through artificial means.
Your argument seems to imply that this is what is being done to us, but you use the term to describe the AI, so it's a mismatch.

I don't see how you can claim it "makes" us stupid.
There will always be skills we use, and ones that fall off when they are no longer needed.
Most of us can't make our own candles, or navigate using the stars, but that's not a result of AI but of other tools replacing the need for those skills.
One can argue that this makes us dumber, but the things we've learned about electricity which replaced the need for candles, or the ease of navigation through GPS can be a worthy trade off, especially when you consider that you aren't prevented from learning the older skills.

It's actually debatable on if our current AI thinks or not.
Slime molds can essentially solve mazes, are they thinking?
People have, and I think some still do, claimed that animals don't think, they only follow their instincts, genetic programming and environmental conditioning.
But at what point do we then say that humans aren't actually capable of thinking?
LLMs like ChatGPT aren't scouring the internet every time you ask it a question, and then regurgitating something it found that matches what you asked for.
Earlier models like GPT3 didn't even have access to the internet when answering questions.
What actually happens is they are fed ton of information and find thousands of unknown patterns connecting the information, this essentially structures their "brain" by giving certain connections more weight, and they are then trained by humans toward certain kinds of answers in an attempt to make them intelligible and useful, without the humans actually knowing why the variables are necessarily connected.
It's a huge pattern finder, which is why they can hallucinate, be difficult to train out of certain behaviors, or be tricked into disregarding attempts to steer their answers.
Because we don't fully understand what's going on in there, which is why they are called black boxes and even people working on them are afraid of how difficult they can be to steer.

As for the government controlling it, they will try, but there's a reason everyone is afraid of misalignment.
Also, you say the government controls the internet, but which government?
And how much control do you profess they have?
Surely there is censorship and attempts to steer algorithms, but to imply that any government has complete control is delusional.
That's part of the huge issue right now, cyber security.

I have to ask, do you believe in free will?
Do you think your thoughts aren't being influenced?
It can be difficult to see exactly by what we are being influenced, but all are.
It's always been that way and always will.
Question your beliefs, always.

Ainoko

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ MviluUatusun

Read the addinum to the journal

SissyLeo

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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I think what we call "AI" today is just a generalization of the current generation of AI we are talking about: Generative AI. Previously AI took in data and selected from a pre-generated selection of actions. What we see as AI now is that same system but able to operate without the pre-supplied options.

Granted this is a gross oversimplication but talking about machine learning and all the details is itself a college level course and I don't have time to write a dissertation.

Ainoko

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ SissyLeo

Read the addinum to the journal

StarRabbit

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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Edited 2 weeks, 2 days ago by Owner

You are wrong.

"AI" has always been a marketing term with no real set definition, not a scientific one. As such, outside of 'cumpootor do it,' there is no real similarity between the 'AI' of old video games and the LLM's of today. Each industry just uses the term however they want.

It's a bit like how food corpos can mean very different things when they says 'All Natural' on the box. Some might mean that if the product is vanilla flavored they used actual vanilla in it, and some might mean they used beaver anal gland secretions for the vanilla flavoring because, hey, that's technically 'all natural.'

SpoonFox

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ StarRabbit

Couldn't have said it better, you even brought up the All Natural argument I also was going to make. Basically, Ainoko, exactly this. It's a blanket term and the AI that controls train schedules is NOT the same as the AI that scrapes images to make its own and it is not the same as the AI that dictates how a video game character acts.

Ainoko

2 weeks, 2 days ago

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@ StarRabbit

Read the addinum to the journal

ThaPig

2 weeks, 1 day ago

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That's the premise of one of my comic's story lines, that machines took over a long time ago, they just have not informed us because it's easier to rule us if we think it's the other way around.
( ᐢ (oo) ᐢ )

Ainoko

2 weeks, 1 day ago

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@ ThaPig

Yeah, that's similar to Ainoko's world. They know that everything on and in their world was created by an advanced AI from the other side of the universe named Trasky after its creators. The Terradynnians have learned on their own as well as verifying that multidimensional and multiuniversal travel is possible and can be accomplished with Trasky

Chimera005ao

2 weeks, 1 day ago

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My thoughts.
We've been essentially thinking about AI since at least the concept of golems.
There's an old game that uses marbles, Dr. Nim, that could be considered an AI, despite only using levers and marbles to drive its reasoning.
There was a 90's computer game called Creatures, that used a simple neural net to allow the virtual pet to learn as you played.
The concept has been ever evolving.

There are arguments over the word "intelligence" due to how it is implemented and what it can accomplish.
We struggle to even define the word.
So I think the idea that it's just a marketing term is plain silly.
We have an idea what the word means even if we can't actually describe it.

But I haven't heard too many arguments over the word "artificial" because people generally consider things made by humans to be artificial. Unless they are basic things, so apparently the term means to be made by humans using advanced enough technology and techniques, which I find to be arbitrary.
I would argue that there is no such thing, that everything is the inevitable result of nature.
That everything is the inevitable consequence of chaos.

The kinds of models we use now, LLMs and diffusion models, they've become more possible due to increasing computer power.
But ultimately they are just a massive amount of data crammed into probability fields.
I would say that humans, and evolution in general, are essentially the same thing.
People want to believe in free will, especially those who succeed and want to use their success to claim their superiority, but it's an unreasonable belief no matter how you slice it.

The exact types of models we use, and how they are currently being used, might not last, but AI itself isn't going away.
Just like the internet, we've already become so very dependent upon it.
It'll just refine.

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