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ZaiksMcKraven

Legendary movies and the lack of them

Greetings my fellow movie lovers.

Christmas is about to cum and I realized
"Wow there is no new movie that get's close to the glory of the 80s till early 2000s"

What I mean is:
Home alone,
Die hard,
The christmas story,
Santa Clause (movies),
The grinch,

are all "legendary" movies everyone knows and agrees, they rock.


And I realised, the last movies that reached this level of aproval might only be the Pirates of caribean, The Starwars Prequels and Harry Potter movies which are very early 2ks.


Do you also have the feeling that there simply are no other movies that can even get close to the Glory of Jurassic Parc, Indiana Jones (The old movies), Alien, Ghostbusters, Titanic or other classics, we would consider legends?

(Okay I would say Avangers Endgame is the ONLY movie that reached this status)

Did I forgett some? What do you think? Do you agree that the modern movies somehow lack the certain "magic". Or is it just a me problem and you would count a lot of newer movies to it.
And please don't just furry it out to Zoomania. It's a good movie but for general audience just a good movie. Not a legend ;)
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Added: 3 weeks ago
 
PaydayWolf
3 weeks ago
I'd say John Wick is a really fantastic movie series that had constant heavy hitters in it's series!

Garuo
3 weeks ago
I would also add this to "legendary"
Shining
Pulp Fiction
GoodFellas
Lord of the Rings (moives)
Terminator (the first 2 )
Back to the future (1 and 2)
The Last Unicorn

Also epic, but older than the 80s
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Godfather (1 and 2 )

Never seen "Avangers Endgame" everthing with "superhero" is pretty much non-existent for me. (with the ecxeption of Guardians of the Galaxy, but that's just okay movies for me.)
ZaiksMcKraven
3 weeks ago
I know there are more of those classics. Those where just examples. I just mean, that there is no newer movies, like from the 2010s or the 2020s which barely scartch that level!
beforethefall
3 weeks ago
I had a huge list built and a bunch of commentary and my mobile browser randomly refreshed after an alarm went off on my phone and the whole thing got lost. A half hour of thumb typing gone. Fuck phones.

Cinema is in decline thanks to the stupid incestuous habits of rebooting everything and propping up long-dead properties to keep squeezing more rotten milk from them, but the art is still there on the margins. The general public doesn't really recognize it though since media has been dumbed down and idiot coded so much. Recent legendary films I've yet to find contention with (so long as the person watching it is actually into movies and willing to challenge themselves;) Dune 1 & 2. Joker (NOT Folie a Deux). Flow. John Wick. If you're into suspense and horror, Weapons, Nope, Get Out are all legendary. If you're into Gothic horror and suspense, basically all the Eggers movies, Nosferatu, Lighthouse, VVitch

We have better animated series (and big budget live) series than ever though. Fair trade if you ask me. Owl House, Scavenger's Reign, Ted Lasso, Game of Thrones, The Foundation, Three Body Problem, The Expanse...

Not rewriting the whole list
ZaiksMcKraven
3 weeks ago
I am a big Owl house fan. To bad it was canceled and barely patched together in the end.

Okay Dune might be a big thing, which sort of passed me. I have seen references of it in other series (futurama) so I guess that could be something.
But in general, I doubt there are many movies that are "worth" being referenced in future film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iVRozrFohM

One of my favourite XD


But I also feel like movies become less important since streaming makes everything available always. It's not that a whole generation goes to cinema for the next amazing movie. It will come out on streaming services, or even easyer on illigal copy sides in a few months anyways..
beforethefall
3 weeks ago
Yeah, the ephemerality of movies is kind of lost in the streaming age. It used to be you could only catch them in theaters near release, or you'd have to wait for MONTHS for the VHS/dvd release. Now tons of movies are often streaming (and pirate-able in high quality) at launch.

I think this is part of why the series format is shining more right now, TBH. Binge watching is the new trend.

And yeah, the Mouse wasn't happy with the queer representation in Owl House so they had to wrap the story quick while they still could. At least they got the big kiss on screen. :o)
SpyroBeddingCynder
3 weeks ago
Agreed.  
ManicMoon
3 weeks ago
I guess the biggest problem today is the lague of original ideas. Back in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s most of the great movies were eather original ideas or based on popular books. Studios were willing to take risks and do something bolt.

Today most movies are sequels, prequels or reboots of older stories and movies. Those then got cut, changed and mixed up to appeal to the biggest possible audiance or meet Hollywoods new fucked up standards and rules. This often results on all those movies feeling and looking the same and boring.
Killereye
3 weeks ago
I enjoyed "Upgrade" (2018), which hasn't become a blockbuster, but is a cult classic for many.
"Life" (2017) was also...something interesting...Silent Night (2023) is also on my watch list.
AlexanderValentine
3 weeks ago
While I wouldn't consider it a legendary christmas movie, I rather liked Violent Night which released a year or two ago.
xcar
3 weeks ago
I would add Arthur's Christmas and the Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn.
Supernal
3 weeks ago
I can agree... I do sometimes have some controversial opinions on things these days, but it does seem that cinema as a whole has declined. I can count the number of movies released in theatres since the 2020s began that I can honestly say both like and think is a genuinely good movie on one hand, and even then I feel there's a fair few who would disagree with me on my choices. Though maybe it's because of my tastes.

I did go to see the minecraft movie, and even though it wasn't as bad as I initally thought, I wouldn't say it's the kind of movie I would be dying to watch again (still better than all of Disney's recent movies).
ZaiksMcKraven
3 weeks ago
I just mean.. I am currently sitting in the living room and watched the grinch, then home alone 1 and finaly Die hard together with my mother. I am drawing, she is working on diamond dotz.
I just can't think of any new movie even suited for this cozy situation.
MeganBryar
3 weeks ago
The thing is, it's all subjective. The movie you find utterly dull and forgettable might be, in twenty years, someone cherished childhood nostalgia. There are, of course, plenty of films that I think people would agree are widely beloved cornerstones of popular culture and (most of them) rightly so. But a lof that is with time and nostalgia, as well. When many of the movies you mentioned were first released, nobody knew that they would become such treasured classics. Nobody, in 1979, would have guessed Alien would go on to spawn such an enormously successful franchise, for example.

Not that I entirely disagree with you, mind. Hollywood seems entirely too focused on sequels and remakes these days, and it's hard to think of many modern films that generated the excitement of, say, Harry Potter. Though that had not only agressive marketing, but a book series to boost it up as well. There was a fair bit of excitement for Alien: Romulus, and opinions of the film seem to be pretty positive, but that's the closest I can come off the top of my head.

In twenty years? Or even ten? People may well be listing films in theaters today alongside those old favorites.
nomercy745
3 weeks ago
I would add the first three MonsterVerse films.
MviluUatusun
3 weeks ago
Sorry, Zaiks, but the Grinch "movie" will never be even in the same country as the "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" animation from the early 1960s.  Before my DVD player broke, I would watch that animation every Thanksgiving.
Tampa
3 weeks ago
I enjoyed The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare and Nobody. I'd put those at least close in terms of harmless entertainment for movie nights.
UrianKitsune
2 weeks, 5 days ago
Yes, and it's been maddening to be told by people for years that it was either 'nostalgia glasses', or I was stupid, or I was just a bitter person, or that I didn't have taste in film, or that I just couldn't let people have fun.

We peaked in those years and being gaslit for decades as film degraded to slop has made me very resentful.
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