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Seikkeizu

All commissioners should just quit, no one respects you (RANT)

I feel so humiliated that I've sold literally 15 dollar (actually less than that, more like ~10 euros because of how paypal works) commission  (https://inkbunny.net/s/3696199) with backgrounds and everything meanwhile these same people pay 50 dollars or 60 dollars heck sometimes 90 dollars for just one character with not even much detail. Heck I've even seen people who can't draw for shit getting paid more than me, it's a joke. I've been a complete laughing stock of this site selling commissions at the lowest prices with pretty much similar quality to those other artists. I need you to do me a favor and delete every single art you've commissioned me. I can't bear looking at these art pieces I produced for few hours just to get a few crumbs on my plate from the commissioner. God, I feel so ashamed being seen as the poor fuck commissioner who needs his little crumbs to not starve. My real prices should be minimum 3-4 times higher but because this site can't appreciate any artists talent and just blindly commission big name artists (even if they are shit at drawing), well... this site is fucked when it comes to making commissions. No new person will survive on these streets. They are just made clowns in the end doing long hours and earning pennies.
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ComfyTail
1 week, 2 days ago
I hope you're okay
If you need to vent or ramble , i'm free to hear you out
Seikkeizu
1 week, 2 days ago
Thanks, you are very kind person but I think I said about everything that's been pissing me off on this site. I was so upset and angry this morning, much more so than usual. I normally wouldn't rant like this lol xd . I'll probably will even delete this journal at some point.
ComfyTail
1 week, 2 days ago
Still, sometimes chatting could help you sort out your feelings , maybe cheer you up

It seems pretty heated
We're here for you
BogdanUrs
1 week, 2 days ago
sorry to hear that bro :(

there is nothing at all wrong with your art, nothing to be ashamed about

most likely the problems your having is because of a lack of notoriety

and what's more, probably your audience is not looking for commissions

for example i've never bought a commission from anyone in my life lol

but if i was willing and able to buy commissions, i definitely would commission you
Seikkeizu
1 week, 2 days ago
Thanks man but it just is what it is, you can't really make it here unless you are willing to completely sell yourself. Too bad that would completely destroy every single bit of passion I have for art, which is too valuable to me to exchange it for money.
BlazeHeartPanther
1 week, 2 days ago
Hey, your art is great and if you feel you should increase your price, maybe you should.
Seikkeizu
1 week, 2 days ago
Dude, the business isn't there. And no need to pretend you think my art is great, you don't like it. Otherwise you had uploaded the "great art". Oh well... It is what it is. I'm not even mad at you. I'm thankful for your past support but sometimes you just need to contemplate if this really is worth your time. Also, if I did increase my prices to what I think would be fair I would at most get like 1-2 commissions a year or something like that, and yeah well... no thanks. I'd rather not do commissions at all.
BlazeHeartPanther
1 week, 2 days ago
WHOA WHOA WHOA, PUMP THE BREAKS THERE BUDDY.

I commission you cause I LOVE your art, I wouldn't be commissioning you if I didn't. Your stuff is very cute and very charming and people do love it. That pic set of Glen and Sophie for one is one of my favorites and TON of people loved it too when I posted it. Also I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't like it.

In all honesty, you sound a bit like me in terms of my artwork. I say my drawings suck a lot too despite people telling me they like it and that I shouldn't sell myself short. A friend even told me that when I was feeling down about my art, and even then I look back on my older stuff knowing I have improved quite a bit since the late early 2000s early 2010s, so I know that even wtfn my art sucked back then that I wanted to improve, and you know what, by golly I did improve and I don't feel I give myself more credit for at least getting better


You just need some more confidence in yourself buddy. Sure, we may have our days where we may think our art is not good and that we should quit, but think about ttd people who took the time out of their way to favorite tte pic and comment on it cause they did like it, not to mention the people who do commissions you cause they DO like your art. Isn't that at least worth it in the end? Sorry if I wanted for a bit but it just made me feel sad to think you would think so low of your talent especially cause I felt the same way too and I didn't want others feeling that way too.
Seikkeizu
1 week, 2 days ago
I'm sorry I said that. You have alwas said positive things about my art. And it's true, if my art were actually trash, you wouldn't have commissioned me multiple times :) that makes sense. I guess I was just caught in a negative spiral from the commissions and here it slipped into my art as well. But I do know that I am quite decent at making art, but making dirt cheap commissions definitely didn't help paint a good picture of me as an artist or the quality of my art, so I know that had to stop.

Formally actually improving art is not actually something I have even thought of. In the past 10 years everything I learned about art was just drawing art and comics. Yeah maybe improving on my art could be one of the ways get more confident in my art. I am okay with where I am now but I feel somewhat limited still because there many things I still have to learn.

And now that you bring that all of that up, I kinda see it in a new light. These are all people and some of them are you guys here who really liked my work and decided to favorite it and comment on it. That is something I could never take for granted because there was a time I never got any comments or favorites on anything when I was just doing digital art on Deviantart long time ago on another account. Thank you.
BlazeHeartPanther
1 week, 2 days ago
Well, I had just hoped that I wasn't too harsh on you when I made that myself. I'm not the best at speeches, but I at least hoped that I had made some valid points. But I guess the reason I made it was when you said " no need to pretend you think my art is great, you don't like it." It made me feel sad considering how much I adored the pics you made and the attention they got on my page seems like it reflects that talent. Hell, I feel bad that they got so much attention on my page that more people needed to direct that attention to your post too. That is how much I adore not just the work, but the individual who made them since he was so kind and generous to take my silly little ideas.

Well, I didn't mean to say your art needed improving, it looks great as it is. Would there be things that could use improvement? Maybe, but there's nothing that sticks out like a sore thumb that I can think of in your artwork, but then again, theres nothign wrong with improvement if you feel there needs to be.

Exactly, all those people certainly did love the artwork you made for me and got quite a bit of attention which took me by surprise, but make me even more happy that so many could enjoy it and my silly little ideas that you were able to bring to life in ways I couldn't even imagine on my own. Infact, if you like, I could link my posts of your pics on my page so you can see what people think.

https://inkbunny.net/s/3393397
https://inkbunny.net/s/3407763
https://inkbunny.net/s/3481798
https://inkbunny.net/s/3485487
https://inkbunny.net/s/3552475
https://inkbunny.net/s/3558325
https://inkbunny.net/s/3651578

Some may go on a while since some turned into RPs #^^#
KluelessKoopa
1 week, 2 days ago
I know we haven't interacted at all before (so it's alright if you don't want to respond back), but darn I was hoping to one day get a commission from you once my money situation had gotten better tbh...

But I do understand your frustrations. Trying to gain a healthy commissioner base is quite difficult, especially when the audience on this site is already quite limited.
I do hope one day this decision might change, but taking a break at the very least should do you some good. Perhaps you might even be able to think of a new way to approach it.
Seikkeizu
1 week, 2 days ago
Maybe it still isn't too late. However that is if you can still afford them x) because I'll be asking for fair prices for my commission for now on whether this will plummet the possible commissions I will get which it probably will. You are kinda right about the break but not quite in the way I was planning it. I want to less concentrate on my commissions and do other things and by rising prices I'll probably get less commissions but that doesn't bother me. It's more important to me that I am compensated fairly for my drawings even if I'll probably get a commission once in a blue moon from now on.
KluelessKoopa
1 week, 1 day ago
That's a better way to look at it, yes.

Well hopefully someday I can commission something. Thanks for reconsidering heh
Bitcoon
1 week, 2 days ago
I've always struggled to make commissions really 'work'. I have to charge more than I think I should, and it still feels like it's not enough to break minimum wage, and interest from commissioners dries up pretty often.

People like to say that you can just be an NSFW artist online and you'll make all the money you could ever want. It's just not true. I try to be respectful when I commission and line up my ideas with the interests of the artist and tip extra especially to make up for lower prices, but I know most commissioners don't.

Your rules need to be your bare minimum, period. If that means less commissions, maybe you find ways to better line up the things you want to do with commissions (like if your prices were 2x higher and you did half off sometimes for certain themes or characters you wanted to draw anyway - or you could set up YCHs more often) and if you just aren't getting as much business that way, you make what money you can and enjoy the rest of the time you have to do anything you like.
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