Okay, fuck them both

Okay, serious talk rn, I can't really trust the government in general anymore. The Dems apparently had the Epstein list since Trump wasn't in office and didn't wanna release it, and then Trump gained access to them and also refuses to release it. In my opinion, they're both shit.

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Ruathan

1 month ago

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And people wonder why I refuse to vote for anyone with D or R next to their name...

UltraSonic

1 month ago

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(insert "First time?" meme)

If you have 100% faith in government telling the truth, you're new to the game; which I'm not trying to sound like an asshole about it, but at least now you understand what we've been going through, for DECADES.

However, this (Trump) administration has had much more success in other policies than ANY admin I've been through, and that's what I look at.

I admit this admin has fumbled with the Epstein files (I blame Pam Bondi), but what's to say that the Dems did destroy evidence? It's not out of the realm of possibility (See Hillary Clinton email files) or conjure up evidence or claims (See Russian dossier hoax) against Trump.

Overall, the Epstein files are important, and those involved should be prosecuted, but that's not my end-all tie's policy.

MasterMochiKun

1 month ago

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@ UltraSonic

I don't, if anything I had faith in Trump until this happened.

And yeah, I wish I could realize that, but the fact he may indeed be on the Epstein list practically makes all his contributions null and void. Which sucks, because he's done legitimately good things for the US.

It honestly is for me, because anyone, and I mean anyone that is on that list, deserves to be locked away for the rest of their lives.

UltraSonic

1 month ago

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@ MasterMochiKun

I think it was noted that he was on party guest lists, but not THE list (to the island) that everyone is so adamant about.

I agree on finding those responsible and taking them to court. However, it's an interesting conundrum that we've seen before. (ie. cancel culture) We can't just ignore positive progress someone has made and say revoke it all.

It's very easy to condemn, even if the evidence proves innocence. (ie. Depp vs Heard) We've seen many examples of how lawfare can be twisted and manipulated just to 'label' someone.

MasterMochiKun

1 month ago

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@ UltraSonic

Still, he has connections to Epstein, and he hasn't been 100% transparent about it.

Yeah, but it's the Epstein list, the moment it gets released, the aftermath would send shockwaves throughout America.

And yes, that is very true.

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