Welp, here's the order of events for anyone who didn't know:
My gallery was nuked, without warning, by the staff team, with the apparent citing of the screenshots rule, which did not cover my art, as my art has nothing to do with screenshots. It was brought to the attention of one GreenReaper by another 3D artist. who then tripled down on the decision in spite of being objectively in the wrong as pointed out by a massive community backlash. All 3D artists were subsequently insulted by GreenReaper.
After some time, my gallery was restored. I allowed it to remain for a short period of a matter of hours, then set everything to Hidden, deciding that the insult was enough that I don't want my artworks to be visible here. As such, I made it clear that I am putting it elsewhere. The problem is that there are not many places that permit free expression, most places do not allow artistic freedom. Inkbunny is one such place- you can't have nude humans here and you can't make 3D artwork. But since I have not made art with nude humans, that wasn't really a problem until the staff cracked down on 3D.
Due to this, I have one solution- find multiple places; one that allows some art and another that allows the rest of the art. For this, I have established a Discord server. If you are a fan of mine, you are welcome to join it. This server will feature the artworks that I've done of adult figures. No cubs will be there, as it would be against the ToS, and I expect the terms there to be upheld properly unlike here. There will, at some point, be a link provided in the server to my cub works, but that is not something I have available as of yet.
As a final warning to everybody else using Inkbunny, the Acceptable Content Policy, nearly three weeks after the event, has still not been updated despite assurances by the staff that they are working on rewording it.
It has been nearly three weeks. Figuring out the wording to a rule can take ten minutes of dedicated thought. The reason it has not been updated is because there is no intention to update it. This contention with 3D artists has happened multiple times in the past. They do not desire to change anything.
"the wording to a rule can take ten minutes of dedicated thought." Actually, no. I had a long conversation with one of the community mods, discussing everything related to 3D and new policies. Turns out there is a lot of things to take care about starting with simple crediting the content creators, ending with dealing with a swarm of low-quality "renders"(can't actually call it a "render" because it literally look like a screenshot of a viewport) where sombody just placing a character on the scene and do nothing beside a simple pose. Plus it will take some time to convince GreenReaper to make these changes. Mods are working on it, I assure you
"the wording to a rule can take ten minutes of dedicated thought." Actually, no. I had a long conver
Nope. If a rule update needs giving simple credits to content creators, fine, add that to the ACP. It hasn't been. If it needs a stipulation that a work needs to meet a quality standard, add that to the ACP. It hasn't been. If the staff needs to convince GreenReaper to get it done and that's not happening, then it's not being done, it's being stonewalled, and it's not happening either way because someone on the staff wants it to not be done.
Nope. If a rule update needs giving simple credits to content creators, fine, add that to the ACP. I
This is not how it works. Especially when the site is running and being moderated by multiple people. You can't just open ACP and type any rule you want (unless you're a head admin, but we now know what happens after this). Plus consider that they have IRL jobs, and also may be in different time zones which makes their communications less effective in time manner. I still believe in brighter future of this site
This is not how it works. Especially when the site is running and being moderated by multiple people
Speaking as someone who managed a community for years, yes, this is how it works. You're speaking on behalf of individual moderators, I'm speaking on behalf of a system. You absolutely can change the wording of a rule at any time, so long as whoever is capable of editing the text is willing to do so. It only takes a few minutes to type. In this case, clearly, whoever is capable of editing is not willing.
Speaking as someone who managed a community for years, yes, this is how it works. You're speaking on
They already changed the enforcement of the rules, clearly they already agree on what they should say. If they had any intention of changing the text to reflect their enforcement, they would have done it before this entire shitshow started. But they didn't do it. Because they don't want to. They will not do it.
And if somehow they're not in agreement of what they should say, then the change in enforcement was done by a rogue administrator who's somehow still on the team, so, no, going rogue would clearly not result in the removal of the rogue staff member.
They already changed the enforcement of the rules, clearly they already agree on what they should sa
Were this the case, GreenReaper would not have blatantly and aggressively doubled and tripled down on this exact interpretation, only to later silently reinstate my gallery.
Were this the case, GreenReaper would not have blatantly and aggressively doubled and tripled down o
I had a long conversation with one of the community mods
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Mods are working on it, I assure you
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Plus consider that they have IRL jobs, and also may be in different time zones
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I'm not speaking on anybody's behalf.
Yes you are. Second off, as I said, capable and willing. If someone is held back from editing, regardless of the reason, then they are not capable. Which is why I am not speaking on behalf of the Moderators, I am speaking on behalf of the system. The *ENTIRE* team, the heads, the one (or ones) that the others aren't able to go against. Not that I have any idea who is who, but I would presume that in this case we would be talking about GreenReaper. Regardless, whomever is able to edit things without being kicked out.
First off: ~~~ Quote by LITTLEFisky: I had a long conversation with one of the community mods
When a site gets this big, changing it in a few minutes is impractical. I have run several communities that have had to discuss rule changes and those conversations take time and generally you want it to so that all moderators can share their input regardless of scheduling.
A site this size changing rules on the fly without heavy discussion is a really bad sign. It typically means people are getting ignored, and that the one changing the rules isn’t taking the time to think of all the implications of the new rule.
When a site gets this big, changing it in a few minutes is impractical. I have run several communiti
A site this size changing rules on the fly without heavy discussion is a really bad sign. It typically means people are getting ignored, and that the one changing the rules isn’t taking the time to think of all the implications of the new rule.
Which they already did anyway. This is all only a problem because they did this, didn't tell anyone they did this, and then started nuking galleries because they did this, didn't think about what it meant, then doubled down on it because it was exactly what they wanted.
They don't need to think about this. They've already changed their enforcement, they know what they want the new rule to be. They just don't want to actually follow up on their promise to put it in writing, because they know that if more people don't follow the example here they're going to get away with it, and are going to do it again to target other kinds of artists in the future.
~~~ Quote by Kellyn: A site this size changing rules on the fly without heavy discussion is a r
I wouldn't mind the ACP not being updated if they had at least acknowledged the issue publicly. Either an announcement journal, or an update to the ACP saying "this section will change soon". It can take time to figure out the wording of new rules, sure, but at least give SOME indication that you're doing it.
Instead, there hasn't been an announcement post (https://inkbunny.net/news_archive.php) about it or anything to alert the community at large that something is or might be changing. No attempt to make a more official statement than GreenReaper posting journal comments. Even just a "We're working on it" would be nice.
If anything, it feels more like an attempt to sweep the incident under the rug and forget about it. Meanwhile, every 3D artist on the site has the Sword of Damocles hanging over their head in the form of the current rules on 'screenshots' which apparently apply to a large number of things that are categorically not screenshots. This could happen again at any time as long as the ACP remains unchanged.
I wouldn't mind the ACP not being updated if they had at least acknowledged the issue publicly. Eith
That's exactly the problem. There was no warning that enforcement was changing, there's still no warning that the text of the rule will be changing, and there's no public acknowledgement that anything even happened in the first place outside of one admin's asinine comments on journal posts.
That's exactly the problem. There was no warning that enforcement was changing, there's still no war
Sure, if that's how IB wants to run their site, that's in their power. And it doesn't change the fact that everyone outside of the administration and anyone communicating directly with them has no idea if the ACP update is actively being worked on or if they've forgotten about it.
Sure, if that's how IB wants to run their site, that's in their power. And it doesn't change the fac