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Echoen

Regarding AI Corruptions

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Recent events have inspired us to rethink our plans for posting AI pervisity to this platform.

On one hand, we were actually grateful that IB allows AI art, because finally we had a place to mass-post the incredibly degenerate sinful slop we create, including both 'stories' and pictures. We have also been organizing many more batches of themed uploads, though we haven't yet gone through the effort to actually post most of them.

On the other, we have recently realized some profound arguments against allowing AI art to co-exist alongside REAL art, art made by humans. It's an ecosystem argument, and an economics argument.

Artists depend entirely on attention and commissions. AI art is literally taking both away. By posting their art to a platform, an artist is hopeful that people will see their artwork. The more AI art gets posted, the less of a chance that people's eyeballs will see the real art. That further reduces the chance that those eyeballs belong to someone who will become a commissioner, paying the artist those meager wages they need to live and keep creating.

We're not even going to touch on the plagiarism. That is a settled argument.

So, as much as what we ourselves have created with AI, we're seeing it in a new light. Every orgasm we've had to what AI has created, is an orgasm that didn't get a chance to occur because of a real human's real effort. It's that many fewer commissions we've bought because of how inexpensive it was for AI to make it instead.

In light of this, we are deleting all AI-generated everything from our accounts. Give real artists your attention and orgasms. AI might give some utterly unique stuff that no artists is willing to draw, but that's an economics issue. Any artist will draw anything an AI could generate, if you pay them enough. But cheap AI art means nobody will want to fork out that much. Taking money out of the mouth of that one artist that WILL draw it.
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Added: 4 weeks, 1 day ago
 
TristanXalliver
4 weeks ago
This is both hot and informative. I do like AI slop to be honest, but I do not want AI to take work away from artists. Ill still reach out to make sure I get a commission. One of my goals is to commission 1 piece from every artist <3 (ill try every artist but I've had some bad encounters, still though)
QuadABCD
4 weeks ago
This is a nice gesture but it won't change anything.
Not posting isn't going to stop people from generating images over commissioning them X3
I don't mean to be rude, but are you going to stop generating images for yourself and stop sharing them with friends?
It's so convenient, and there's no penalty, so is no point to feeling guilty about it.
Things are this way cause artist aren't valuable anymore.
Paying them pity money to make yourself feel better won't change the way things are going.
Just keep posting it, IMO
dsfargeg1111
4 weeks ago
"artists arent valuable anymore"

- Some guy on an art website who is most likely getting his rocks off to art made by... yknow, artists
Echoen
4 weeks ago
Of course this will change something. It will change something for RIGHT HERE, and in the spaces we are in, and for the people and the real artists (and authors!) that co-exist alongside us. It's a little less competition they're being forced to deal with.

Yes, we ARE going to stop generating images for ourselves, and sharing with our friends. Instead we're going to share work made by real artists. Because it means something more than slop, and gives those creators more attention and more clout.

We don't feel guilty. We feel angry. Angry for the corruption that was wasted. For the pleasure that COULD HAVE BEEN. For the people who's brains could have been that much more bent towards creating more of what we want to see, if only we had paid attention to them instead of a machine that has no brain.

Artists are and always have been and always will be INFINITELY more valuable than AI slop. If you find yourself saying "artists aren't valuable anymore" then what the fuck are you doing on an art site?
QuadABCD
4 weeks ago
Sheesh! Didn't mean to make you so angry XD
Well good for you it sounds like a noble commimtent. But to reply to you and the person above, I'm not here for art.
I'm on an AI site, for AI art XD Check the popular page, as far as I can see most o f us are here for AI art
FoxyDean
4 weeks ago
It's a furry art site. For art. AI isn't art. It's slop.
Jarvis
4 weeks ago
You're the reason why artists are failing, why the AI is taking over because people say fuck it and AI is the way to go.  There are many fucking artists out there who are struggling to survive or even struggling to even start because more and more people would rather go the easy way out.  He'll I bet you're one of those people who go up to people with crippling diseases or people who are seriously injured and who will never be the same after whatever accident they had and tell them to go kill themselves because it's "the easier way out"  if lesser and lesser people support AI, then we can fight this.
FloweyDancingpaw
4 weeks ago
I think it's always best to at least separate AI art from real art. Generative media AI is at best a tool. It's like displaying the brush that was used in a painting, but never displaying the painting. But the brush isn't the art, so why would you post the brush to an art site?

And that's just the most positive way I can spin generative media AI, my actual views are much more negative, but I think from that standpoint alone is a great reason to separate real and AI art.
annakimly
4 weeks ago
i fiddle with ai a bit, but i dont bother publishing or sharing it... because like you said, artists who pour their heart and soul, and lewd into it deserve the attention
 
i respect your stance on this and dont let any detractor evne try to seer you wrong you lovely corrupt battu (and squirrel)
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