Where do you draw the line in the R34 sand?

I draw busty nudes of characters that are not mine. Only rarely has permission been given outside OCs by other busty nude enthusiasts. When we do it of characters from a big time company or a wildly successful product, the consensus seems favorable. Does the amount of money, manpower, and/or fame of a character's creator eventually push it into "acceptable to busty nude" territory?

While I find myself with many gray areas, there are a few hardlines I follow: No real people, no non-suggestive OCs made for fun, no characters associated with real world extremism. I will reconsider real people or fun OCs if permission of said person is expressly given.

If you ask me why I follow these rules in some cases, but not with Princess Cadance for example, I don't have an exact answer except "Hasbro too big to have valid opinion".

So where do you guys draw the line?

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StarRabbit

5 months ago

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My own are;
1. No Real people.
2. No OCs (or any characters) heavily associated with real world minors. (Hermione Granger is my big example of this. No one draws her book-accurate. They all draw her to look like Emma Watson, which grosses me out since she was a minor when she played the character).
3. 'No characters associated with real world extremism' is a good one I hadn't thought of. I'm going to adopt it!
4. More of a gray area, but I see permission from an OC's owner as a professional courtesy, but not mandatory.

GunpowderGreenTea

5 months ago

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@ StarRabbit

Your number two is also one I didn't think of, but will adopt. Although it'd be weird if I discovered AFTER drawing that certain famous cartoon character was inspired by creator's nephew or something.

StarRabbit

5 months ago

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@ GunpowderGreenTea

Oh, that's why I have the words 'heavily associated with' doing a lot of heavy lifting for where I draw the line.

Example; Alice in Wonderland was based on a real little girl by name of Alice Liddell, but when I brought up the character the image that probably popped into your head was the Disney version. Liddell might have inspired the book version of Alice, but she's barely associated with the character outside of an interesting factoid. So I consider r34 of Disney Alice perfectly kosher.

Whereas back to my Hermione Granger example, whenever I think of her I immediately picture Emma Watson, and I imagine this is true for many people, especially from my generation who grew up with those movies. And that's why I personally get skeeved out by the idea of r34 clearly depicting Emma Watson.

Hope that helps some. \o

GunpowderGreenTea

5 months ago

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@ StarRabbit

o/

MrUnder

5 months ago

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Personal ones are certain childhood centered shows (like Sesame Street) and Bible characters (generic Angel and Demons are cool, as are characters that share the same name as someone from the Bible). No characters owned by kids (even if the character is an adult) but if it was a design to be submitted and owned by a company that's fair game. Cartoon characters meant to represent people is a weird ground (like Jaidenanimations or the recent stuff of Kamala as hyena) so I'll probably just wont draw that myself. Can't think of anything else right now.

Norithics

5 months ago

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This is a good question, like I kept thinking "Is it rude that people draw Tony Stark and Captain America kissing because they have the actors' likenesses or do those count as fictionalized characters now?" because it really does appear to be arbitrary. And I count myself in that as well. Like, I definitely don't feel bad drawing art of other's OCs (especially if they're already porn OCs), but I still generally make inroads to make that more palatable. But on the other hand, the preponderance of Jaiden stuff really does feel somewhat meanspirited because they came out as asexual and then there was just an explosion of porn of their self-insert avatar, and of course women always get a more aggressive repsonse so I can imagine it as an internalized "I'll teach you to think you can get away from being objectified" type deal.

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