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htfcuddles

Returning to Linux

If someone, when 2024 started, told me I'd have switched back to Linux before August, I would've laughed at them, but it happened. And it happened in a very insidious way that I feel the need to share because, remember: If you use Linux is your duty to tell everyone, to try to force your OS into everyone else and use words like "freedom" and "micro$$$oft" and "window$" and the such.

Jokes aside, I didn't consider to move to Linux, at all. I was on Windows 10 (I think Windows 11 is horrible and slow and filled with so many trackers that it isnt even funny) and was considering to stay in it past its artificial "expiration date". However, as uncaring as I could be with my data privacy, there was a point where even I had to say "this is a bit too much". And that "a bit too much" was Microsoft Recall. A feature that would take a screenshot every 5 seconds, and would feed an AI who would store what were you doing.

It was then that I decided to try Linux on my laptop. Since my laptop is just a secondary system, I could just take the bug out of my head and remind myself that Linux is half baked and I would reinstall Windows on my laptop, in preparation to a trip I'll have now in August. And I installed Linux Mint 21.3.

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Before going on, I'm going to say something and be very straight about it: I do not think Linux is an OS ready for everyone. It has advanced LEAPS since the last time I had used it, but its still an OS that will require tinkering and finding out solutions that may not be easy to spot. This is my experience and it was a "succesful" one, but i do not want you think that if it worked for me, it will do for you. Linux has still some rocks and stones that may be a hurdle for non-tech-inclined peeps.
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I was shocked as everything worked out of the box. Everything. I installed MATE because honestly I prefer to use my computer in a more old-school-ish way. And it worked actually quite good. I had no issues with my laptop except for setting up my cintiq; while the tablet was recognized and worked out of the box, the corners were all wrong in addition to the mouse pointer moving through the entire desktop area when I tried to draw with the pencil. There is a command line tool, xsetwacom, but its not easy to use, I couldnt use it to map it to the tablet only (it told me HDMI-1 didnt exist, even tho that was the output when asked) and I had to enter coordinates that made no sense.

I decided to try KDE Plasma. I didnt originally want because when KDE 4 had been released (back when I was still using Linux back then), it had been buggy, bad and I really disliked it. But I bit the bullet.
Man, I should've done it earlier. Not only it was somehow *faster* than MATE, but it had an applet to configure the tablet, that worked flawlessly.

Could I use Clip Studio Paint? A year ago i had attempted to use CSP on Debian with a VM and failed miserably. This time? It ran out of the box. The only option i had to change was going to File > Preferences and in the Tablet section, turn on the "Use mouse mode in tablet driver settings". That was it.
Things worked, everything out of the box, and games also worked.

Eventually I decided to pull the plug and move my desktop. And I did. But I decided to try something else with my desktop. So far I had been using Mint 21.3 in my laptop, but everyone pointed me to try Ubuntu Studio, that was a distro specifically aimed to artists like me. So I did. I tried the liveDVD of US in my desktop, it ran flawlessly. I installed it.

Thats where the problems started.

First, I couldn't install wine. Even though I used dpkg --add-architecture and followed the steps rigurously. Nope. The i386 packages had been pulled off Ubuntu entirely. I thought I could use Steam to get them, nope. I installed Steam and in the moment it asked for the libraries, it shat itself and nope you cannot play here what the hell distro are you using.

After losing some hours setting up and failing at this crucial step, I decided ok nope. I'm going back to Mint. Or I'll try it before going back to Windows.

I installed Mint. Then I immediately installed KDE Plasma. Then the tablet applet. Then Wine.
I had no issues. Everything, every single thing worked out of the box, right away, without any need of additional setup.

I'm also thankful that Mint is still on x11 and hasn't moved on to Wayland, because apparently the wacom tablet setup doesnt work on Wayland, and I didn't see any plans to make it work anytime soon. Devs are worried about other more pressing incompatibilities, and thats fine. Anyways, everything worked fine. Most stuff worked even faster!

I decided to stay on Linux. I installed a few Windows virtual machines (MS-DOS, Windows 95, 2000, XP and 7) (with legit keys I own), and my main connection with Windows would be a Windows 7 machine. Everything going well, even though some software prevented me from using their newest versions. That's fine, I never liked Windows 8 or 10 anyways. I tolerated them, that is different. (I love Windows 7)

And right now I have my system all set up, configured, all working great. KDE Plasma is a great desktop whose philosophy I like ("We're adding this new feature, but don't worry, we'll put a switch somewhere to turn it on or off if you want").

So yeah thats my story with returning to Linux.
However, like I mentioned, it had some few rocks and I wanna talk about them.

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Clip Studio Paint.

It's my main tool and what I use for my work. I mentioned it ran right off the bat without additional setup, and thats true. However, it isnt perfect.
First, it takes around 25 minutes to start (no, I'm not joking, if you try to launch it from the command line, it doesnt crash, it just takes that long to start). The start takes even longer the more fonts (typographies) you have installed. And if by mistake you open the "Recent files" menu, it will crash, forcing you to reload it again. Besides that, though, it runs excellent. I wouldn't complain if it wasnt due to that.

And before you say, because I know someone will mention it, I dont like Krita. Never have. From crashes to desktop in the past to just I don't like it.

VRChat

I was surprised to discover that my VR Headset (HTC Vive) worked out of the box. However, vrchat needed some very annoying setup. It ran almost flawlessly, until I went to any world with video player. Nope, video player refused to work. I had to start scrambling upon non-official versions of proton until I found one, a very specific one that wouldnt crash vrchat and would let me use video. All good, and two days later vrchat updated itself and fuck me, now it crashed and had to do the "find version" thing again. And even now i cant play videos flawlessly, i need to go to the video player, hit "Stream" and *then* insert the video URL. That also means that 1. In worlds where I'm not the owner I cannot do so, and 2. Searching through a video is impossible.
At least its something.

Also, VR is extremely inefficient and slow; I get FPS drops fairly often and thats annoying. Its less of an issue when im doing my VR airdrum workouts with a friend, but its absolutely an issue when more peeps wanna join the fray. Also I have no idea if I'll be able to enjoy all the light effects and videos and all next year when Furality Online happens.

That's it for now. In spite of the couple bumps, my experience with Mint is great, I am very happy and I don't see myself returning to Windows anytime soon. I may renew my laptop, but if that's the case, I'll be installing Linux in it too xD Screw you, Microsoft. You've spied on me enough, and I'm *not* willing to keep using your online account even if you try to force it into me.

That's my experience. I know some peeps here are very Linux oriented and I know (based on my experiences with the Linux community pre-2010) that some will think I'm a moron for not knowing how to do things right off the bat or for not understanding the manual to install alternatives to steamvr or for not modifying wine myself to prevent CSP from crashing, or that I'm a sheeple for even needing to use wine in first place, but its fine lol

I hope you have a good day.

PS: OH YEAH I almost forgot. My desktop.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor (8 cores, 16 threads)
RAM: 32 GB DDR4 3200
Mobo: ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX1080Ti
Kernel: Linux 5.15.0-117-generic (x86_64)
Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.24.7
QT Version: 5.15.3
Graphics platform: X11
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Added: 7 months, 2 weeks ago
 
CookieSkoon
7 months, 2 weeks ago
I am not tech savvy. I can use Windows, and that's about it. Microsoft has been pissing in my cereal for over a decade now, though, and I feel utterly helpless.

I use Paint Tool Sai. That does not like to run in Linux (in that it will not recognize your tablet). I play several games that require Microsoft accounts now as well.

I do NOT want W11. I did not want 10. But I may have no choice but to move onto a platform I cannot use effectively.
htfcuddles
7 months, 2 weeks ago
It's unfortunate. Windows has been getting worse and worse, and I bet Microsoft knows it.

I am almost sure that when the D day comes and Windows 10 isnt supported anymore, that the OS will try to update by itself without permission or something under the guise of "security". I'm sorry you (and everyone actually) have to go through this.

(Also I just tried to run SAI on Linux (because I remembered that years ago I managed to run it) and I got hit with their "I need to run in admin mode!" window that doesnt let me do anything else. So it checks out. Thats also why i mentioned from the beginning that moving to Linux unfortunately isnt for everyone)
CookieSkoon
7 months, 2 weeks ago
I do, fortunately, have software that prevents the auto update.

Back when I had my W7 PC I had a program called "Never 10" that prevented the auto upgrade to W10, and now I have one called "In Control" that does the same against W11. Same developer.
htfcuddles
7 months, 2 weeks ago
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Mircea
7 months, 2 weeks ago
I'm a bit shy on what to say, knowing many years ago I said something you took as me being one of those Linux supremacy people which I know I wouldn't have done intentionally but if I have no idea what happened now, it's in the past in any case. So I'll try to be as fair and simple on it as possible, hopefully this helps and provides correct information.

Linux isn't perfect, like anything man-made especially software. For me it's a godsend without which I can't imagine what I'd be doing today, precisely for the reasons you mention. Windows has become centralized and controlled to an unacceptable extent, it really was a great OS up to Windows 7 but everything after that has became unusable to anyone who won't take being spied on and having their machine controlled by someone else. Requiring a Microsoft account just to log in was already a red line, having your computer forcefully updated and restarted was another, having your key presses or voice or even your screen potentially recorded and spied on is yet another leap over the line and I don't understand how anyone can possibly accept such a thing.

Something I definitely disagree with is the reputation Linux has for being less user friendly: I never saw anything that confirms this... not for distros aimed at user friendliness at least, if someone wants to install Arch then sure you need to be quite an expert. You should indeed know a few console commands and recovery steps, you learn those over time and even if you don't it's usually fine as making your own scripts just helps you automate things faster. Windows can be just as complicated in many areas, you need to be as tech savvy to debug devices in the device manager or know processes in the task manager or boot into safe mode in case anything breaks (hint hint, CrowdStrike), I never understood how having to manually install drivers or find a dozen setup.exe installers was ever considered more user friendly than everything just working (when it did work).

It's also come a very long way since, including KDE Plasma which is what I use: Plasma 6 (just released recently) is tons better than old KDE 4 which I was on during the first years. 12 years ago when I permanently made the switch, many things were indeed buggy and some devices didn't work right, but every month it slowly got better. One example: A few years ago I bought a gamepad which identifies as an Xbox controller and the kernel wouldn't recognize it, I had to use a special python script to fix it... several months ago it just started working too! Just don't go for ultra-new hardware immediately if you can avoid it, the kernel may take a few months to support devices or technologies that were just released.

As for Clip Studio Paint, one of the difficulties in making the switch is you'll almost always want to switch to open-source alternatives, which can be hard when you're used to a particular software. I use Gimp but that's a bit outdated and not good for everything: Especially if you're on KDE give Krita a try, see if you can learn to slowly move to it. At least Steam is aiming for full Linux compatibility and many games run on it so that's no longer as much of a hard limitation as in the past.
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