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ProjectSoulstealer

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OMFG I JUST SAW A COMPLETELY NEW ACCOUNT (3 days 15 hours at the moment of this journal) get 317 watches!

Dammit people love semi-realistic porn...
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Added: 1 year, 8 months ago
 
AutoSnep
1 year, 8 months ago
I did notice 100 watchers per day on that account... Is it all about anthro gay cub porn? 😆
ProjectSoulstealer
1 year, 8 months ago
But... literally 100 living people per day... gosh, I really start to question my own sanity here :D
Maybe I should update my guide on how to get popular ;D
AutoSnep
1 year, 8 months ago
Like, "Generate anthro gay cub porn non-stop and submit a new image every 4 to 6 hours"? 🤣
ProjectSoulstealer
1 year, 8 months ago
Well... pretty much. Also submitting images 4-6 hours also works a lot - literally 6 times out of 7 Popular section got me this author. So... 'simply generate 15-30 images in advance, load them into some program, and just release one at a time every 6 hours or so', and that is how you can get from zero to hero in 3 days :D
AutoSnep
1 year, 8 months ago
And to think I proudly considered myself a smartass for coming up with the idea of daily submissions and never leaving the Popular page. 🤣 More frequent uploads seem to work. I'm just concerned that this approach will trigger the admins to update the rules for the Popular page, with unpredictable consequences... One user flooding that page became an issue several times way before the generative image models boom.

And I'm not even sure I can actually handle generating so many images daily. But switching poses more often instead of upscaling 5 images per pose to perfection may be a smarter approach, admittedly. 😆
ProjectSoulstealer
1 year, 8 months ago
Welp, my Idea is pretty much immortal - not here then elsewhere with links, so literally any change to rules won't affect me that much.
But, yeah. My existence is literally a warning for everyone to all those new Neuroartists coming with their art-floods. I tried to warn everyone not only on how good AIs could rip styles, but on how easy it is to do and how future holds ever increasting amount of people looking for easy porn / amusement. Now we see everything come to fruition. Slowly, but damn surely, especially on how popular those 3-days-accounts are. Damn.

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Well, I give you a secret to how to generate a damn lot of pictures.
Step 1: Load a lot of Dynamic Prompt files (like species, colors, backgrounds, etc)
Step 2: Create a hyperdynamic prompt (for example 'solo, {{species.txt}}, {{pose.txt}}, {{color.txt}} eyes, {{focus.txt}}, {{style.txt}}' and so on, the more the merrier)
Step 3: Set to generate pictures overnight. (if one picture takes 4 minutes; over 8 hours you will get at least 120 HQ pics, and that is on relatively low-end GPU)
Step 4: As everything is already generated, choose 5 to 10 of interesting ones; and throw them into PNG Reader to understand what prompts was generated for them, and make variants (optional).
Step 5: P R O F I T
AutoSnep
1 year, 8 months ago
I'm not sure I want to take that path. 😆

Meanwhile, he's got another 100 watchers.

While I lost all my Popular positions. 😐
ProjectSoulstealer
1 year, 8 months ago
Well, you kinda shouldn't lose anything, as pop range is still ~300 views.

And I laugh silently, as I begin to understand something, little by little. Images, that is mimicking popular artists, doesn't get much clickbait on thumbnails. I kind of asked myself - 'why', as I copied artists with audiences up to 10000 adorators, there is no way they won't be clickbaited onto their favorite artists style... but they are not. While it could mean that all those 10000 people set their blacklists properly (wow...), it also could mean that all those artists are adored... NOT for their style. :)
AutoSnep
1 year, 8 months ago
The threshold seems to be closer to 400 now.

I think a lot of images with ridiculous amounts of views by the most popular artists get a lot of initial exposure through notifications to thousands of watchers, with the Popular page providing considerably less value. Also, it's pretty hard to distinguish a style from a thumbnail. Not everyone uses the huge thumbnail mode. Unless we're talking about reproducing Zaush's style and Zaush's compositions, or something similarly recognizable, I don't think you can bait a lot of visitors. 😁

What the 100-watcher-per-day director did is he cracked the Popular page, making it an ad-hoc notification area for all visitors with a chance of about 6/240=2.5%, and it scales linearly with the frequency of submissions. With the number of registered user visits per day in the 30,000 range, it's getting close to 4-digit numbers of impressions. 😲
ProjectSoulstealer
1 year, 8 months ago
Nah, still 300. To see current threshold, just press 'search', dont fill anything in search bar, set time range to 3 days and sort by views, go to 4th page and click the last image. Amount of views in that image is your desired minimal views to get into popular.

Well, my logic is easy. If you fav an artist, then you do it because you like what it is doing. For me, faving an artist is giving thumbs up for his style... not for what it draws. But I think, most people think otherwise, as they literally favoriting crotches instead of styling :(((

Well, all we need to explode Inkbunny is to create 240 submissions in a day, and TOP OUT DAMN POPULAR SECTION >:D
AutoSnep
1 year, 8 months ago
Nice trick with the search. 👍
AutoSnep
1 year, 8 months ago
Wait, I fucked up my calculations. The frontpage displays 12 items, not 1. It's hypergeometric distribution. With 6 successes, population of 240, and sample size of 12, the chance of getting at least 1 item is:

26.7% !!!

It means that every fourth visitor out of 36,000 sees a submission. That's 9,000 impressions from registered users.

And this is how chance of getting on the frontpage scales with the number of submissions on the Popular page:

1 - 5%
2 - 10%
3 - 14%
4 - 19%
5 - 23% (every fourth)
6 - 27%
7 - 31%
8 - 34%
9 - 37%
10 - 41%
...

13 - 50% (every second)
...

20 - 66% (two out of three)

Basically, at realistic low numbers, it scales almost linearly, and at high numbers (20+), almost all visitors will eventually see you.

(Calculator I used.)
ProjectSoulstealer
1 year, 8 months ago
Welp, you could have just used much easier formula, called 'what is the probability of getting exactly 0 required out of 12 nessesary' and subtract one.

You need 12 items, miss 6, total 240, therefore:
234/240 * 233/239  * 232/238 * 231/237 * 230/236 * 229/235 * 228/234  * 227/233  * 226/232  * 225/231  * 224/230  * 223/229 = 0.73263933480068063153

Every probabiliy minus all probabilities of getting exactly 0 = all probabilities of getting NOT zero -> as probability of getting negatives is void, we get probability to get at least one picture :)
1 - 0.73263933480068063153 = 0.2673, or 26.73%.

So, yeah, your calculator is correct.
AutoSnep
1 year, 8 months ago
Well, one bonus of the more general solution is that I can get probability of getting 2 images on the frontpage. 😆

With 6 popular images, the chance of getting 2 chosen is 3%. And it surpasses 5% (base with 1 popular image) at 8 popular images.

To reach 5% chance for 3 images on the frontpage, you need 18 popular images. For 4 images, 31.

At this point you get banned from InkBunny for flooding the website. 🤣
ProjectSoulstealer
1 year, 8 months ago
Are you considering "at least" parameter? Like, if you upload 6, and you need 3, then 4, 5, and 6 is also a valid point for 3 :)))
AutoSnep
1 year, 8 months ago
The calculator gives all the cumulative probabilities. 😉
ProjectSoulstealer
1 year, 8 months ago
You know... get ready for the shitshow. I LOVE this idea. I'll generate those 24 pictures today, and find a way to somehow automate their posts with equal timing or so. This will be pretty epic :D
AutoSnep
1 year, 8 months ago
I see nothing epic about a ban. 🤔
ProjectSoulstealer
1 year, 8 months ago
Why there would be a ban? ACP states NOTHING about how much time should pass before submissions, and there is TONS of artists who literally upload all of their galleries in one go. So, why cant I upload all my gallery within short timeframe?

But if it will be as we calculated, and all those images will show with 66% chance - this - and this alone - will be purely epic. It would open whole new world of possibilities. A whole new set of eyes! :)
AutoSnep
1 year, 8 months ago
When you do something the author of the rules didn't expect, there's always rule #0.
ProjectSoulstealer
1 year, 8 months ago
You Only Live Once.

Also, that would be for nice life achievement - banned cuz got superpopular in incredibly short amount of time. >:D

It just takes some time to prepare all those images, as there must be 24 separate unique ideas. I'm trying my best, but it will take 8 hours or so :)))
axlegear
1 year, 8 months ago
Not me!
Ralanost
1 year, 8 months ago
Sometimes the AI can serve a niche.  Doesn't make it better, just means there was an audience for that.
ProjectSoulstealer
1 year, 8 months ago
It doesn't make it better, yeah. But judging by all experience prior to this point, the consumers/watchers don't care about who is author of the picture as long as it is their favorite flavour of porn. And they doesn't care because they are physically cannot differentiate between human artist and computer artist. :v

And those are majority.
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