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NonceSensei

Three-Way Commissions

I recently had someone ask if I take commissions, so I figured I'd create this post to answer that question publicly, as well as propose an idea to the Inkbunny community as a whole.

First and foremost, Inkbunny rules prohibit the sale of AI generated work for cash, and I wholeheartedly agree with this position.

There's a lot of tension between AI artists and more traditional artists, and some valid fears about the negative impacts AI could have. One of the those fears is that the commission market could become flooded by AI artists, and I think this fear has some validity. Inkbunny's ban on the sale of AI art is a good step towards ameliorating this problem.

I also agree with Inkbunny's position on keeping AI prompts open for anyone to read and use for themselves. If you're willing to put in the time to get the software installed and configured, anyone can recreate the images that AI artists post here. It's important that anyone thinking about commissioning an AI artist understands this, lest they feel ripped off.

There is, however, an appetite for AI generated work, and not everyone is interested in putting in the time (or has the hardware) to get an AI up and running. There is also a degree of skill in writing good prompts, finding good models and LoRAs, and adjusting the various settings to get outputs that match the prompter's vision.

I don't wish to insinuate this is an equal degree of skill as learning to draw, or paint, Photoshop, or work in other traditional artistic mediums. It is not. I am not trying to steal a traditional artist's glory by saying an AI artist's skill is equal. But there is a degree of skill to creating good AI art, nonetheless.

So here's my proposal:

If someone would like to commission some AI art, I am open to what I'm dubbing a Three-Way Commission™️ (not actually trademarked, please steal this idea. 😸)

Three people are involved in this process: A patron seeking some AI generated artwork, an AI artist, and a traditional artist.

Rather than compensating an AI artist with cash, the patron and the AI artist commission a traditional artist for some traditional work. The AI artist gets to choose the traditional artist and the specifics of the traditional art commission, and the patron pays the traditional artist for that commission (after agreeing on budget and specifics, of course.)

In return for the patron paying for the traditional commission, the AI artist will create AI generated artwork for the patron, to the patron's specifications.

Once the AI artist and traditional artist complete their work, the patron gets the AI artwork they wanted, the AI artist gets some traditional art they wanted, and the traditional artist gets cash for their work.

This not only avoids the problem of AI artists displacing traditional art, but may actually increase the amount of commission work that traditional artists receive. It also provides an incentive for AI artists to avoid churning out too much custom free work in response to requests, as that now has trade-value for 3WCs.

It is also my hope that this may heal some of the rift that exists between traditional artists and AI artists. I don't think this has to be a zero sum game. Traditional artists don't have to lose for AI artists to "win." There is room for both of us, and it makes me sad to know many artists that I love see AI artists, like myself, as an enemy. We loved traditional art and artists long before AI art existed, and that love will continue.

Anyway, I welcome any and all comments about this idea (or related ideas) below. You should also feel free to be angry at me. I can take it. I'm a big kitty. All I ask is that you be civil to each other, even if you disagree with someone else in the comments.
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VenisonCreamPie
10 months ago
I do like that your proposal falls within the current rules Inkbunny has laid out, so it doesn't necessarily require action from the site admins to implement, just word of mouth and social engineering. And I am open to any solutions that fosterings healing the tension between AI Artists and Traditional. I am certain the majority of us have been approached at some point about commissions and.. yeah it's kind of a lose lose system that attempts to discourage ai art but.. it doesn't stop it. Like you said, creating some kind of better system would avoid the market getting flooded with high quality free art that people still like. Us giving art away just devalues the art space further. Ahhh such a complicated topic...

I am glad you are trying to start a dialogue about it, I just wish solutions were easier. Like even if commissions were okay'd pricing this space is a nightmare. I vote for your idea as it's the only good one i've heard or seen so far <3
NonceSensei
10 months ago
Yeah. Reality can be so unpleasantly messy, sometimes. I think things will turn out OK in the end though. So far we've come out the other side of every technology-driven shakeup better than before, and I think there's a good chance the same will happen with AI. We just need to keep thinking carefully about it, factoring in kindness and other people's needs along the way.

And yes, pricing would be a bear. 🙀 It will be tricky even in a three-way commission. What's the value of AI art in comparison to traditional art? What's a fair trade look like? Is it based on hours? Level of effort? Quality of the results? Rarity of the products?

I've done side-work that wasn't art related in the past, and I think it's always hard to put a value on your own labor. It's one thing if you've got bills to pay, because then you can work backwards from your needs to how much you should charge to cover those needs. But outside of that there's all sorts of weird social and psychological knots to deal with.

Are you being an arrogant ass, thinking your work is worth X amount? Are you undercharging, and what are the implications of that for you and the market as a whole? How do you cover your own expenses when they are variable and difficult to predict?

It's hard.
sankau
10 months ago
Isn't it easier just to sell AI art on patreon? 🤣
NonceSensei
10 months ago
Lol, almost certainly. I'm also totally uninterested in doing that. 😸
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