AVOID Furrylife Online! by Zenobius < Journal | Inkbunny, the Furry Art Community

kaijuin5

4 years, 11 months ago

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Already avoided it after the newer stupider furs already pointed out that it outright forbids fictional zoo. I guess I can't post my Garurumon or Arcanine porn now. Boohoohoo! xc :p

Zenobius

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ kaijuin5

Yeah I heard about that too. Welp, that's not good when you barely have any furs left that might want to join the site. Makes me wonder wether it was an intentional move.

Shiftymon

4 years, 11 months ago

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Edited 4 years, 11 months ago by Owner

I mean I'm just waiting before I throw the last attack to FA so it finally dies...I came in contact with some of the devs for Synstresser and believe me, they have the machines to literally FRY Furaffinity to a crisp, backups and all.

But until there's an competitive alternative, I really can't risk killing the only site people use for porn besides e621 and Twitter lol.

Btw dm me if you want a pillowfort invite owo

TirilDraws

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ Shiftymon

Why destroy FA ?

Shiftymon

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ TirilDraws

Why not? It's a massive host to criminals such as rapists, child molesters and killers. I'd be doing people a favor by taking it down.

TirilDraws

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ Shiftymon

It also hosts a lot of normal furry artists,And quite a few Deceased artist's work as well.

Criminals Are Everywhere, and its not like killing fa would Just Keep them from going elsewhere.

The people most hurt by that are artists and creators. since They would be losing years of work, Thousands of images, and even in the case that the still have backups it would Take a very long time to reupload all of it.

nobody wins, it would just leave a lot of memories gone and a lot of creators in potentially a bad place.

even people who hate fa don't get anything, They weren't using the site anyway so their lives aren't affected.

Criminals would just go elsewhere So now instead of them all being on fa They would Be Scattered Over every site (which is already how it is).

Shiftymon

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ TirilDraws

Dude, it's already happening, Patreon and Primeleap exist, if they want a revenue they can start one. There's LOADS of creator platforms to start (I'm a musician and I use Distrokid, I know.)

FA needs to go down, for the better. It started perfectly, it was a nice place, until Dragoneer started contracting corrupt people and criminals. You can get away with getting someone you don't like banned in there if you have enough cash.

TirilDraws

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ Shiftymon

How does that affect anyone outside of FA, and if thats how they choose to spend their money so be it.

Also thats removing an individual Not the whole site

And money wasn't The thing really Just the archive of work and favorites,

even if the creators are dickheads You are punishing Thousands of People as well as the creators.

a lot of people are unaware/unaffected

And some people don't know about other Services for example, I've never heard Of primeleap before.

There are other platforms, Sure But moving To them adds alot of uncertainty "Will my followers be willing to move", "is that content allowed", ect ect .

oh and Consumers loosing all of their favorites and not being able to find the artist again is a pretty big issue.

You could Just ignore the site and leave it be, who Benefits From the Site no longer Existing. because a lot of people would be inconvenienced by it

also the impact to an artist's motivation of loosing a community of friends and work you've
done wouldn't be a great thing.

i dont really use fa to post since they don't allow cub but i still have an account to look at artists who have abandoned their work and or are just not archived well. i dont care much

crlcan81

4 years, 10 months ago

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@ Shiftymon

The issues with how the money donated for server upgrades was improperly spent is part of why IMVU made the deal with FA to run the servers. Only good thing I've ever seen IMVU do for the furry community.

Shiftymon

4 years, 10 months ago

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@ crlcan81

IMVU is still cringy as shit though, idk how it's still a thing.

babybunnydiapercute

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ Shiftymon

wait, back and forth, are you saying that the furrafinity website has nothing holy about being a place against porn diaper cubs ?

insanemajin

3 years, 4 months ago

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@ Shiftymon

since when there are killers on fa?

Zenobius

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ Shiftymon

I might not be a huge fan of FA but I totally agree with TirilDraws here, there is a lot of grief that will hit a lot of innocent furs in this case, the end does not justify the means. That's like blowing up a kindergarten because there might be predators hiding in the bushes. Besides, most people's only connection with their friends are through their Fa's and that would be taken down as well, so excuse me when I say that I wholeheartedly disagree with you here.

KaoNocturatzu

4 years, 11 months ago

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Yeah, tragically, I think the problem is you have to dig really deep to find sites that are tolerant and a good way for people to share their interests without being judged or harassed by trolls. Googling most websites will generally lead to either sites that pretend to be tolerant, but are actually heavily authoritarian, or sites that advertise themselves as libertarian, but because anyone can access it, trolls will flood and harass the users on the site, turning it into an authoritarian site.

It seems the only way to really find the best sites for sharing anything you want and enjoying yourself is to either "Make a private server/site and keep it strictly invite only", or "Hear about the site via word of mouth and hope you can earn the trust enough to get in. Inkbunny is the rare example of a site that is ultra tolerant (with understandable restrictions) and therefore feels like a good place to meet people who have been ostracized from other sites, but because it's known enough, and making an account isn't restricted, there are still some troll accounts that wander the site occasionally (fortunately they're snuffed out pretty quickly). It's tragic that we have to hide who we are and what we like because of the mountains of hate and violence that dominates society.

and on top of that, the bigger risk of getting involved in deep net circles if you do manage to find one is sometimes, people use libertarianism as a means to be hateful, racist, bigoted, etc without fear of getting banned, so you have to wade through the surface of hate commentary and such to finally get to what you're looking for, and even THAT is buried deep (8chan is all about freedom of speech, but hides forums that have to deal with cub stuff as well, even if it's art). But alas, I do find that people who have the most illegal fetishs tend to be the most mature and tolerant people on the planet. They know the world hates them and have severe trust limitations, but if you're in the circle, they know that you're the only person on the planet they can trust. It's tough, but I'd rather have 1 or 2 really trusted friends who tolerate everything about me, than 100 who I have to walk on eggshells around lest they hear I like something "illegal" and want to castrate me.

Zenobius

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ KaoNocturatzu

That's definitely a sad side effect, even moreso when they use Polls to vote for things to ban instead of their own sound mind, polls are susceptible to influence and it only takes a group of trolls to enforce the most draconian rules. This is why it's important to have a site owner who has a clear idea on what they're doing and in which direction to steer the site to prevent all of this.

And yes, Inkbunny is definitely a rare example of a tolerant site that allows its users to upload the art that would otherwise be banned the moment they even 'think' about uploading it elsewhere. Downside is that Inkbunny seems to be the only site and if one day they would fall to pressure (or by a heavily cucked new site owner) then it would be fun to have other places to run to. Sadly, like you already mentioned, leave it to some people to ruin things for the rest.

Oh yes, that is also a terrible thing when people hide under the guise of being all for liberty just to be judgemental hateful bigots to others, this is why we can't have nice things. =w=

"	I do find that people who have the most illegal fetishs tend to be the most mature and tolerant people on the planet.

- Same here, the people who appear to be the most tolerant, down to earth people who don't shut down an idea but first weigh the pros and cons in an objective manner are usually the people who are also into the most taboo fetishes. When all your life you've been surrounded by judgemental people it kind of creates that urge to become a better person and wanting to set a better example for everyone else. After what I've been through I certainly do not want to become like those who shoot first and ask questions later.

And yeah, same here, I'd rather be around people I can trust completely than people who'd probably lynch me the moment they found out about the stuff I like.

babybunnydiapercute

4 years, 11 months ago

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unfortunately the politically correct spoiled the furry abdl world making people forget that everything shown is just fictional and art and ignorant to the point of taking everything seriously.

Zenobius

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ babybunnydiapercute

True, people through the ages have always wanted to make a case for fictional stuff being an onsetter for the most terrible stuff. We've had this with comic books, movies and video games in the past and it just never stops. It's a sad world we live in.

babybunnydiapercute

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ Zenobius

and worst of all, there are idiots who live in a bubble and hate those who make sexual or comedy parodies with pop culture personsgens even going so far as to ask for friendship, man I love baby looney tunes and I find it very cute and even so I was not uncomfortable to see them in sexual parodies, because I always take it as a joke, so much so that I had the pleasure of creating that fanfic where baby daffy duck feels sexual attraction to the beby bugs bunny and always the cute eyes and always will be, because I know separates the fictional parody from real works, alas I wonder, HOW MANY IS THE ABILITY TO KNOW HOW TO SEPARATE THINGS BETWEEN FANTASY AND REALITY ?, not only in the furry world but in pop culture in general.

Zenobius

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ babybunnydiapercute

I'd like to say some people are blind to seeing fiction as reality but I also think it's done on purpose to try to get things that they personally dislike banned. This is the reason why slippery slope arguments and weasel words are their go-to whenever such discussions come up sadly.

babybunnydiapercute

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ Zenobius

I agree, and I avoid being friends with people who don't know how to take anything for fun, I prefer those with an open mind

TirilDraws

4 years, 11 months ago

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The TOS says cub Isn't permitted

https://furrylife.online/cup/

"Any Media which promotes, glorifies, encourages, or in any way puts forth in a positive light, and includes but is not limited to: terrorism, illegal acts, hate speech, hate groups (such as the KKK, Nazism, Fascism, Authoritarianism, the Alt-Right, Q-Anon, All Lives Matter, Back the Blue, Kekistan, etc.), harm or abuse to minors (including nsfw "cub" art), animals, or adults, spam or deceptive media, harassment, or human trafficking."

Its part of their rules. that's just how they chose to form their site so don't use it for that content.

Zenobius

4 years, 11 months ago

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@ TirilDraws

They must've added that later on then, in any case that just means it was dead on arrival. Oh well...

And sure, they can chose to form their site however they want... but seeing as people are jumping ship now it does goes to show that not all choices are 'good' ones.