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MrHuggles

On Astrology and Human Culture

To anyone who reads this journal, I would advise you to read my first journal posting on the new thirteenth zodiac, Ophiuchus.  This journal is a follow up conversation that relates to that journal, and in some sense continues it.  Here is a link to it in case you have not read it yet. https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=24908

I really feel that Ophiuchus is part of a different zodiac.  If the sun and moon really are running directly through it on the sky (which is how the zodiac is discerned), then that means they aren't running through hardily any of the other constellations we see as the traditional zodiac.  This would mean that we need to remake the entire zodiac (which it might still have 12 signs in the end).  The only problem is that thanks to science there has been a major separation from astrology in attempt to kill it.  It is my thought that in the past, astrology and astronomy were the same profession.  There is evidence in Egypt that they knew of stars that could only be seen with a high power telescope; something science has said they didn't have the technology for.  But the fact that they plotted out star coordinates that included these high magnitude stars (over a magnitude of 7 is too dim to see with the eye) would mean that not only were there methods of what we call astrology being used (for divination) but these were coupled with what we would call astronomy (location and calculation of stellar coordinates).  There are similarities of this mimicked in other ancient civilizations were it is known they had a key understanding of the cosmos through their stone structures that were astronomically aligned (some of which are aligned with stars and planets that could have only lined up at the reverse tilt of the earth's axis).  If our current society, based around science, were to stop persecuting things like astrology and learn to work together then there may be a chance to save astrology and help its wise teachings continue.  It is my thought that if something as great as astrology were lost, we would be losing perhaps the most valuable link to past human civilization that we have ever had.
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Jimbear
6 years, 8 months ago
I completely agree with this.  There is no way modern science can explain how these ancients knew of these unseen constellations and such.  However, how do you think the ancients used astrology to detect these things that modern science needed a huge telescope to see?
MrHuggles
6 years, 8 months ago
i am without an explanation that wouldn't sound insane.  the first possible way is that they actually did have high powered telescopes or some other method to see deep into space.  whether they developed this technology or ability (yes, maybe it isn't an object doing this but their own psychic power) is unknown.  it could be possible that they were able to have this technology after it was introduced to them by another culture.  the second possibility is that another culture simply discovered or already knew of these high magnitude objects and spread the info about them so others could know and document it in their own way (such as the Dogon's of northern africa inscribing them on stone tablets).  the third possibility is that the theory of ancient alien gods is true and it is because of them that we were either able to see these things or became aware of them.
Jimbear
6 years, 7 months ago
How do these sound insane?  Now, the first and second ideas (the first one without mentioning the psychic) wouldn't be considered insane by the scientific community, but everything else would.

HOWEVER, I do believe in psychic powers as my Mom has a very heightened psychic sense.  She can't control it, but she has her moments that aren't just mere coincidences.  For instance, back in my grade school days when teachers and other faculty felt free to drag children around who misbehaved and such, the vice principal of the time was dragging me roughly by the arm to her office for something I didn't do.  That same day, my Mom felt something was wrong or was about to go wrong in school for me.  Anyhoo, just as me and the VP rounded the corner, there stood my Mom who sternly said, "Let go of my son you bitch."

So, the fact that the ancients may have had psychic powers isn't so far fetched.  HOWEVER, supernaturally speaking, a more plausible explanation for such knowledge would be the ancient "alien" gods.  First of all, how does anyone explain the Roswell incident back in the 50s and the fact that "human" technology advanced in leaps and bounds soon after that?

Second, how in the hell can anyone explain the multitude of ancient deities, many of whom share the same traits and roles from culture to culture?  Were they simply created by a collective mind belonging to each culture?  Or did they actually exist?  If they existed, were they aliens?  Or could they have been the beings which the Bible refers to as Nephilim?  Or could they have truly been what we would traditionally consider gods?

Either way, the "ancient gods" theory of them handing star charts and such over to us humans all those milleniums ago would explain it all really.
MrHuggles
6 years, 7 months ago
all of my proposed ideas are insane because they do not fit within the norm of what western science considers rational thought.  in eastern science these would be accepted as possibilities though (the western mentality is too dogmatic to accept concepts like these today).  i personally believe in the ancient alien theories as being the most rational of explanations for this issue.  after seeing many episodes of ancient aliens on the history channel and reading books and researching on the web i'd say there is more evidence to support the physical existence of these deities and their technologies in the past.  but there is still no certainty of them being alien or not.
Jimbear
6 years, 7 months ago
Exactly!  I'm not sure either, but see, like you said, this Western thinking is too dogmatic.  I see it as too narrow-minded, not accepting possibilities that are "unseen" as it were. *hugs*
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