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calicokitea

This Day, and this picture...

I acquired this from postsecrets.com
I don't normally post anything remotely referencing any kind of religion because I always want to be sensitive to other beliefs.

But I saw this and this just... hit me.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XU03RbXosmo/TmxGuUP5oyI/AAAA...
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Added: 7 years, 1 month ago
 
LupineAssassin
7 years, 1 month ago
Oh my god! O_O *HUG*
Thestory
7 years, 1 month ago
If I remember correctly. There is no written religious word that says suicide sends a person to hell. I don't know where people got that from.

I couldn't imagine someone being damned for being in so much pain either.
calicokitea
7 years, 1 month ago
I don't either. I don't know any religion very well, but I do know that (since a LOT of immediate family members are Catholic) Catholics believe anyone who commits suicide goes to Hell. I don't know if that's in any religious text, but that is something my family has been brought up with. I've lived with that belief, but I had a hard time believing something like that.

This picture just really solidified some things in my heart. I couldn't imagine that either, not at all.
DaddyDuckyBE
7 years, 1 month ago
AFAIK, it's usually justified by pointing to Judas who went to Hell after committing suicide because demons were tormenting him for having betrayed Jesus. The story of Judas is convenient, it gives Christians the justification to anti-Judaism *AND* damnation of suicide in one package.

Keep in mind though, it's just as irrational a justification as denunciation of same-sex activities by pointing to the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Just like the story of Judas doesn't talk about suicide per se (Judas goes to Hell for having betrayed Jesus, not for having committed suicide), or about the Jews as a whole, Genesis 19 doesn't say anything about same-sex activities at all (it's a story about the townspeople of Sodom demanding to know who Lot is hiding, and threatening to beat them all up if he doesn't tell).

When people point as obessively to "evidence" that just doesn't exist, as justification for existing and on-going discrimination, it's usually a sign of the fact that it's gotta do with far deeper and ancient values, issues, and prejudices than the supposed "evidence". It's such ethnocentric values and prejudices according to which new paradigms (such as new religions, new philosophies, and new sciences) are patterned in order to gain popularity among those afflicted with their age-old, deep-rooted prejudices. If you don't fashion your new ideas around your culture's same old prejudices, people won't follow you and accuse you of "denial" instead.
calicokitea
7 years, 1 month ago
no idea what AFAIK is lol! but I see your point, well justified. I try not getting into religious discussions anywhere (not even with my family) because my views tend to differ. I see the Bible as a historical document that was written to reflect the times, as the case with many other documents.

And I don't know religious documents whatsoever, so I'm glad you pointed that out because I wouldn't know where to even find that information, haha.
felixvirgo
7 years, 1 month ago
*as far as i know*

i wouldn't blame those people, either.
DaddyDuckyBE
7 years, 1 month ago
Felix is right, AFAIK = As Far As I Know.

Also, the basic issue is not religion. It's ethnocentric culture and its irrational, numinous values and prejudices. Dominant culture often hijacks nascent paradigms (religion, philosophy, science) in order to maintain its ethnocentric prejudices.
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