*SNAP* by Priest22 < Journal | Inkbunny, the Furry Art Community

12 years, 8 months ago

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Well you certainly don't seem to have writers block. >o.o<

You know I'm no artist, so I can't really give you any constructive advice. Instead, I hope my bit of humor helped you chuckle and ease the pressure. At least a little bit.

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Nareimooncatt

That was a terrible joke - thanks man :)

Nah, I felt better after I wrote the journal. I'm just having...a day.

I do have to figure something out - how to learn the basics at this late stage in the game - before I lose my mind.

RallyFox

12 years, 8 months ago

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I'd suggest doing a google image search for artist model poses and practice drawing some of those. They can help with basic anatomy skills.

Also, *bunnycuddles*

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ RallyFox

Thanks Rally. I kinda know what to do and where to start, I just - I dunno.

I have found that the more I hate drawing, the more I beat myself to death doing it, the more I don't ever want to touch a pencil again - that is when I do my best work.

Also, *Hugs the Rally* thanks for saying something :)

SockBunny

12 years, 8 months ago

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I get that sometimes. draw really well one day and the next i cant draw for shit.
Don't worry it will pass. besides your draw awesomely already in my opinion. =D

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ SockBunny

It almost makes me want to cry that you said that - the picture I've been trying to do all day was a 'Get Well' for you >.<

...and now you're here making me feel better...

:) Thank you Socky

SockBunny

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

Awww really? OMG your so sweet Preist. I mean... Gosh! I just wana give you a great big hug!!! X3

Dont worry you dont have to draw it if your not in the zone. Your gesture more than make my dat =D

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ SockBunny

I'm gonna finish it *all sorts of determined*

Infinityplus1

12 years, 8 months ago

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I can relate.  That happens to me more than you might think.  What I do is kind of the opposite of what would seem natural.  I chill out.  I tell myself, "I don't care if what I draw looks like shit right now.  I just want to draw." Anxiety is the killer of creativity.  Artists are at they're finest when they are completely unselfconscious.  I'm at my most creative when I'm having fun, and if I stress over my output, I'm not having fun.

Gesture drawings can help if you want to try drawing different poses.  Pick a pose you want to draw, or a piece of art you want to see if you can recreate.  But only give yourself a short time to do as much as you can, and don't concern yourself if the results look awful.  The right brain is a paradox, it likes new things, likes challenges, but it can be easily discouraged.  When you get in a funk, it might just be bored.  Try drawing something in a radically different style.  If you listen to music while you draw, try a new genre you don't normally listen to.

Also, sometimes your subconscious will try to solve your drawing problems for you while you do other things.  But only if it's very fascinated by it.  If the problem causes too much stress, it will simply be ignored.  The most talented artists have perfect command over their muse.  But the rest of us have to train ourselves until those actions that compel our creativity become automatic.

I hope you find this helpful.  I had to write it twice because my computer crashed.  lol

The second time was actually easier, because I didn't stress about it, and I had practice writing it the first time.  Just think about it like that.  Failures are practice. lol

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Infinityplus1

That - is fucking brilliant!

Brainsister

was trying to get me to do 'sprint drawing' to kill the over analyzation I usually pull on my stuff - and what you said just clicks with it. That fucking makes SENSE. That's saying a lot man, you just don't know.

Thanks!!

Infinityplus1

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

You're welcome.   Brainsister is probably a bolder artist than I am.  It's what helps her excel.

I actually don't do speed drawing as much as I should, but it really does help.  Drawing fast trains your brain to commit things to memory quickly.  And don't be afraid to correct things on the fly, but don't take very long to do it. Your pencil or stylus should be in near constant motion.  Don't give yourself time to doubt or become frustrated.  If you get stuck, just move on.

My art instructor actually used to change a still life in the middle of my drawing or painting.  This was so that there would be something major I would have to correct.  Sometimes I get too complacent with what I make, even though it's wrong.  Never be afraid to make a major alteration to correct something that needs correcting.  But, save a copy first if you can, lol.  And never become so committed to a piece of work that you can't change it if something is horribly wrong.  I still have difficulty with this.

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Infinityplus1

I'm trying a variation on what you've suggested. It's an amalgamation of what you and

lupinlover

suggested

I'm doing a layer, not allowing myself to erase, then drawing over in another color on another layer, and repeating the process.

If I keep my mind thinking 'this is still just a sketch, just relax, none of these are final lines', then it helps. Or it is right now. I'm going back to ye old stick figures for the moment to try to restart this stuff. I need to try making a major change in the middle - I need to break my 'work on minutia forever'.

I'm working by what you've said, so I'm going to try several of the suggestions presented here.

Infinityplus1

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

Cool, I hope you enjoy it :)

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Infinityplus1

It...she tries to break me!

Infinityplus1

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

lolwhut?

KINGandQUEENofEPIOKS

12 years, 8 months ago

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you know what help with anatomy its what i use is porn mags go and buy a bunch of them it will help but for gawds sake steer clear of the big brands like playboy or penthouse they no longer have anything good and have become pretty much a place for ads

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ KINGandQUEENofEPIOKS

I used to use the 1-900-BIG-ANUS type ads to draw from - Hustler just became too normal to work from - and I honestly forgot all about that.

Since there's been such a big stink about tracing and referencing in the fandom, I've avoided using all reference for a while now.

I really didn't think about it till you said something, but for some reason, my stupid ass decided 'Oh not me, I'm gonna do everything from my head! No referencing here!'

Oh man. Yeah, I'm gonna do this. Grab some porn and go. Fuck yeah.

KINGandQUEENofEPIOKS

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

thats what i use when ever i draw i could careless what others say about my stuff but i don't use the entire image any way if theirs a certain pose i want i'll tinkle with it and sometimes i just use a single body b\part like the arm or somthing lol :P

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ KINGandQUEENofEPIOKS

Well, you know how much I like your stuff too, so anybody who doesn't can shove off :)

I know you meant to say 'tinker with it', but 'tinkle with it' sounded cute for some reason.

KINGandQUEENofEPIOKS

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

well technically not all the art i post is done by me its mostly commissions but every now and then i do draw or i use 3d modles :3

xichan

12 years, 8 months ago

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Dunno if this'll help or not or if you're just ranting to get it out(trust me, I know how that can be sometimes!) but if you like, I can give you a lesson in layout. It's pretty simple and takes very little time to do, so practice is quick. Anyways. Yeah.

Can't help much with the anatomy beyond that...

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ xichan

Getting things positioned plays into my anatomy problem. Yes, I'd like to see how you do layout.

xichan

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

Well hey, I can totally help you with that! Are you familiar with the concept of skeletal layout in sketchwork? This is going to sound very silly, but effectively, it's drawing stick figures. The entirety of a pose can be represented(and rather accurately) by a glorified stick figure. This has several advantages - you can see how well a pose is going to work before you start drawing in the details. Also, since you're working with just a few lines, it's easy to erase and draw new lines if you're not happy. It's also easy to bang out 10-20 quick scribbly layouts to see which pose you prefer and find a good one to work with. Since everything is simplified by being just a few lines, it's easy to see that you have the proportions all correct as well. I usually draw my layouts very faintly, and then draw right over them, often incorporating the light scribbly lines from the composition into the final drawing. Those that I don't incorporate are often erased when I adjust the levels of the graphite before posting, when I'm posting graphite work.

If you would like, there is a fairly good tutorial on layout at this site:
http://www.elfwood.com/farp/figure/williamlibodyconstr...

Or if you would prefer, after I'm done with my current commission, I could draw you a step by step tutorial of my own, by simply doing a graphite sketch and scanning every step so you can see how I do it.

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ xichan

*placeholder reply*

I want to see how you work, and thank you for the link - I was thinking back to basics with ye old stickies was a good place to start - I gotta get back to work, but I wanted to say something first

xichan

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

S'all good! My current commission(and a family vacation) is going to keep me busy AT LEAST until after next Wednesday, but I'll see what I can come up with for you!

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ xichan

That's great - I've got to go into Canada tomorrow, and probably will be without internet for a few days. I can get some sketches done trying the stick figure layout and other things suggested, and I'll at least have a basis to work from when you get back.

Thanks for taking the time to reply

xichan

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

You bet! I Love your style - very cartoony, but sexy too. I look forward to seeing what you can do once you've gotten the hang of other poses!

Although, I have to say, if you have to fixate on one or two poses, the few you have chosen are very nice poses.

Lewt

12 years, 8 months ago

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get a few books on the subject

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Lewt

Done and done - I've found a few that have 'porn for dummies' type stuff

lupinlover

12 years, 8 months ago

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Edited 12 years, 8 months ago by Owner

Try not erasing at all and just push through and finish a peace. that way it will be done for better or worse and you will at least gain some more artist EXP.

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ lupinlover

Thanks, I'm trying this along with what

Infinityplus1

said - I'm still having a bit of a problem, but not erasing is a heaven and hell type situation.

RadaMan

12 years, 8 months ago

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I have had the biggest drawers block for 2 months i could use some help myself lol

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ RadaMan

You know what I suggest :P

RadaMan

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

What do you suggest my friend?

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ RadaMan

Write a Shelly story - just a short story about her day, who she meets, possibly about her taking a shower and masturbating, or someone knocking on her bedroom window - and whatever happens.

Plenty of naughty description, just let your mind go pervy. This will break that art block quick - and give you (and me) fun & dirty ideas for pictures.

It doesn't have to be great, just give it a try :)

SenGrisane

12 years, 8 months ago

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Then draw a picture with flawed anatomy. I do it all the time <.<
It's not the end of the world and your friend will see you care still.

And if you post a picture where you think your anatomy is flawed you can ask for advice on how to correct it even. Don'tbe shy. People are nicer than you think.
You could even send them to just to me if you really don't want anyone to see them and want critique.

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ SenGrisane

I'm probably going to take you up on this.

I'm trying the 'dont erase' thing first - and I'm going to post the results, no matter how painful.

Thanks Donkey :)

SenGrisane

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

Okay. Looking forward to it. ^^

PuPpYsKuLl

12 years, 8 months ago

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I'M SORRY BUT
I LAUGHED THE WHOLE TIME I READ THIS.

I
Know how you feel though dfhghdf
I can't ever draw anything anymore cause to me, ALL of my art is horrible.
just take a break of something, it'll come back to you in time I'm sure

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ PuPpYsKuLl

LIES!

The worst thing is, I've heard you laughing, and I can imagine you laughing through this whole thing

Paynecabal

12 years, 8 months ago

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My suggestion is usually to get through some cheap ass paper and doodle away ... then crumple the shit out of it.
Trust me it helps getting the frustration out!

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Paynecabal

Draw stuff to scrap? That might stop a lot of this 'gotta try to get this shit perfect' type problem...

Yeah, I'm trying this too. Good one, thanks

Amaterasu

12 years, 8 months ago

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I hate that feeling, i always have that feeling

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Amaterasu

I am really surprised to hear you say that - considering how good you are?

Maybe you just need a couple of girls to model nude for you?

...err...maybe that might not be such a good idea :3

CrystalMendrilia

12 years, 8 months ago

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Thank you. I actually feel better knowing that doesn't only happen to me. I haven't posted anything in a long time, despite how I am still drawing. Just, I never finish anything, or I'm too embarrassed by its lack of quality.

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ CrystalMendrilia

Hell, then we can go through this together. I'm going to start posting things that I feel are - well, shit. I'm just going to bite it and post it. Maybe you can do the same? We can feel embarrassed about our art at the same time - kind of like supporting one another.

CrystalMendrilia

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Priest22

Hehehe, alright, though most of the things I've been doing is practice on paper so I can't post those, but yeah. I'll start posting the unfinished stuff, scratched things too. ^_^ obviously we both are masochists. :p

Norithics

12 years, 8 months ago

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Ahhh, ranting. Good for the soul. Now it's time for my annoying 'You know what I do?'!

I like keeping around very elementary media. Big, thick pencils, sharpie markers, anything that forces me to draw very basically. It takes you back to the basics of shape-forming. Hell, one of my favorite things to do is to get colored soap markers and draw tits on the shower wall. It's primitive, fun and refreshing.

Priest22

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Norithics

Do you ever see patterns in stuff?  I see them in stains, on bumpy walls, everywhere.  I see faces and porn and all sorts of weird things.

Maybe it would help if I connected the dots.  I wonder if the next person to use the shower after me would wonder what the hell was going on?

My thing is I get 'stuck' in one way of doing things.  I'm so ADD that I have developed a OCD type response to keep on track.  It makes it very hard to switch between doing different types of things (for a really silly example, I stop commenting when I'm trying to draw - and when I get something drawn and finished, I start commenting again because I just did the description on the picture - hence, started typing, hence my brain goes 'that's what we're doing now'

Breaking this up, forcing myself to go back and forth might have real benefits - now that I'm fast enough drawing to be able to screw up quickly, but then start something else...hmmm....

I gotta get back to my job, I'll check back to see if you have any more advice later

SenGrisane

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ Norithics

What are soap markers?

Paynecabal

12 years, 8 months ago

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@ SenGrisane

Kid toys to have fun with when they bathe.

SenGrisane