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Can-Can
The sun doesn't shine for everybody
I saw enough of this crossover and I'm here to put a finale on it. The official one for a simulated race.
I'll share my oppinion about this competition and the why of my choice. Feel free to do the same.

I know both character's concepts and settings are really away from reality, but If there is a winner in this competitive crossover, that's Sonic, nobody else.

Sonic is a real speedster. His design looks cool and efficient for speed at the same time, and just looking at him, I know I'm looking at a fast character. As an experienced runner and adventurer, he looks unbeatable in the racing scenario, and take in count he has been in the run and acrobacies for over than 20 years.
Talking of speed, Sonic has no rivals. His top speed is unknown, but it's well known he can break the sound barrier with extreme ease (it can be seen in Sonic X episode 1), and pushing himself to the limit, he can move at the speed of light, as it has been seen in various games and comics. All that in his normal form.
Sonic is also an action character. I see this vid and I think "lol, he's freakin' awesome :D". I think this intro is the perfect way to show Sonic's awesomeness :)
Some more info I've checked before of this:
http://archiesonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_sonic_the_hedgehogs_...
https://tundra-00.deviantart.com/journal/sonic-vs-rainb...

If that doesn't convinces you I could mention you Super Sonic, and his precious bonus of +1000% to all his skills ;)

Now about Rainbow Dash... Well... Rainbow Dash IS NOTHING. I've showed enough evidence to set Sonic as the Winner and Dash as the LOSER. Sonic has been "The Faster Thing Alive" for 20 years, Dash has been a fucking flying gay pride symbol for 2 or 3 years. I can show Sonic's awesomeness with a vid, where are the Dash's vids showing her awesomeness? Nowhere, only lame collages with stolen music and random episodes fragments.
As artist, I see Rainbow Dash design and I puke; a speedster char, really? Faust, you need some practice. Look and her mane, and tail, and wings size... That only means, a lot of air resistance, and speed reduction... Also, this episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WImRs-nWW48 and Dash's expressions before SRB... The only thing I can realize of such gestures, is "this is not a fast character"... I've never seen Sonic doing such effort expressions, even when he goes beyong light speed... So, my first and last thought is "Dash is not designed for speed...". She is just designed to look "bisexual as hell" but nothing else...
This is a thought you bronies must learn to assimilate, and learn to live with it; Dash is just the second one; nothing else. You may like her, but Sonic is the ultimate speedster. Deal with it ;)

So, after all the evidence and possible simulations, I set Sonic the Hedgehog as the WINNER, and Dash as the second place, because of her popularity... Too bad this was not a popularity contest :p

Once again, feel free to set your result and cause for it, I don't mind, my choice won't change :p

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awakenji
9 years, 11 months ago
No no no you got it wrong.
Dash is like 5th.
There are faster characters lol.

Besides this argument isn't needed.
Trying to explain stuff to true bronies is impossible.
FurCollector
9 years, 11 months ago
lol true about faster characters... I've heard Freaka(z)oid is faster than Dash :p
ShadowsInc
9 years, 11 months ago
Goku has Instant Transmission, going from one side of the universe to the other in an instant :U
(and yes, he is traveling the distance, not *popping* from one place to another) XD
KW
KW
9 years, 11 months ago
What is it with blue characters and high speeds? Also, why aren't Smurfs super fast?
Killereye
9 years, 11 months ago
I can only imagine, that they had an episode based around super-speed...every long-ongoing show has one, as such... XD
November214
9 years, 11 months ago
i would say they would race sonic most likely would win but then be friends with dash and help make dash faster by teaching her some of his moves
LunaMuenster
9 years, 11 months ago
Jajajajaja Bien dicho! X'D
canjear
9 years, 11 months ago
Well, Dash on the ground has been proven to be nothing but average, only staying evenly matched with AJ at best. As for her flight speed, there's a good chance that only matches Sonic's as well. But of course, Dash may be able to get from point A to point B faster since she can fly, being able to avoid loop-de-loops and other platforming challenges.
NallaNyu
9 years, 11 months ago
Pinkie Pie would win every time. <3
ArcCahlon
9 years, 11 months ago
I've always loved sonic and i've always loved MLP and dash (back when she was an earth pony) I don't compare them against each other cuz as you pointed out there is no comparisons. but they do in there own fandom share similarities. both are the fastest, both are referred to as the coolest, both are very loyal to there friends. the similarities are there. I actually love the idea of sonic and dash as a couple not only because they have similar characteristics but also because it pisses sonic fans and bronies off. for me they are the best with in there respective fandoms.
Daneasaur
9 years, 11 months ago
Fan of both seres, bt I'll say t his flat out:

RD can reach Mach 10.

Sonic can go so fast, he can go through TIME (Sonic CD).

Hands down, Sonic.
ShadowsInc
9 years, 11 months ago
actually, she can only fly SLIGHTLY faster than Mach 1, and that's only if she's straining herself. There was only one Sonic rainboom, (equivalent to the physical properties of a sonic boom) meaning that she can only go "slightly" faster than the speed of sound.
Killereye
9 years, 11 months ago
I also think, that Sonic is faster, since He can break the Sound Barrier with ease and doing it as many times as needed, while Rainbow Dash is having trouble to break it, and even if she succeeds She can't repeat it endlessly. Sonic is faster, that's a given, but about the contest:

What if it's a Show Contest? You know: Charity and such. It's a Mock-Race to raise funds for something good...Sonic is a d!ck but also a good character. He would slow down and give a show alongside Rainbow Dash.

I don't really know who is the fastest character in the universe, but Silver Surfer is pretty damn fast. I mean He passes planets in seconds, and I think His travel speed is measured in Lightyears/Microseconds...whatever. God is everywhere - that's fast too... =XD
ShadowsInc
9 years, 11 months ago
Goku has Instant Transmission, going from one side of the universe to the other in an instant :U
(and yes, he is traveling the distance, not *popping* from one place to another) XD
Killereye
9 years, 11 months ago
What can I say to that?
+1
Yiffox
9 years, 11 months ago
you're comparing critters in different universes...sonic breaking the sound barrier with "ease" is entirely unrealistic...while rainbow dash breaking it applies more realistic physics....so stick dash in sonic's universe?  she could win perhaps, since there's no physical boundaries to her speed...stick sonic in MLP universe and BAM he hits the air piling up in front of him, which he's never experienced before...

also going the speed of light?  plz...see einstein

and another reason dash might win...she flies, sonic has to run...there's a REASON why air speed records are higher than land or sea speed records...3500 kph vs (with rocket engines) 1200 kph   its called friction
ectoBiologist11
9 years, 11 months ago
You,my dear friend,earn my respect. Even if I can't tell who would actually win.
Killereye
9 years, 11 months ago
While I also adore Rainbow Dash better then Sonic, I have to defend my sanity: I wasn't the one who started comparing different universes! I'm just well aware of this: https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=102228
And with that theme ongoing, this Journal  pops into existence...So let me have my opinion on colliding cartoon worlds in peace, okay?!  =;3

Also, bringing up the Laws of Physics (of our world, that is) for any cartoon show...*giggle*
Yiffox
9 years, 11 months ago
well just pointing out that Sonic's laws aren't ours, which is why he can break the speed of sound at a whim, and supposedly go faster than the speed of light (which would take infinite energy and freeze him in time in our universe) whereas, in MLP, you actually do encounter the air effects that occur at the speed of sound
Killereye
9 years, 11 months ago
Norika
9 years, 11 months ago
How can people even THINK of comparing Sonic to Dash?
Dash is slow as mud, she took just about 3 attempts and 2 minutes to even come close to a Sonic Boom, whereas Sonic himself can perfect two booms as soon as he takes off from a standstill. He doesn't even break a sweat, always smiling, always running. He can even fly if you stick a ramp in front of him, as we've seen before. Then you take Sonic's superform. He moves at the speed of light, nevermind speed of sound, and idc if "he has emeralds to help him out with that", are you telling me that the Elements of Harmony can shoot down NightMare Moon and Discord but they can't make Dash fast?
I'm not a Sonicfag. I'm not going to say he's faster than Rainbow because I like him a little better, it's a fact.
Applejack can beat her on the ground and even in the air, flying toward the Wonderbolts she took her sweet time. If anything went wrong, Rarity and the Bolts would've been splattered, and you could guess something could go wrong because it did practicing with Fluttershy.
There is no question. Sonic was speedy from his debut in 1991, and now he's even faster.
Fastest Flier in Equestria? Try Fastest Thing Alive. My God.

Sorry, had to get it out. All my friends are Bronies X__X
thecooler
9 years, 11 months ago
SONIC!! SONIC!!SONIC!! SONIC!!SONIC!! SONIC!!
SONIC!! SONIC!!SONIC!! SONIC!!SONIC!! SONIC!!

i love rainbow but i go whit sonic on this one.
TylerTheElephant
9 years, 11 months ago
Fuck that gay horse! Sonic will kick anybody's ass anytime! And if any bronies want to say otherwise, then think about this. About 90% of you are grown men who do nothing but get off to a tv show meant for 3 year old girls. Don't even try. And even if this was a popularity contest Sonic would still win by a longshot. Sit down Dash, you just got pwnd!
Jimperator
9 years, 11 months ago
Because clearly getting off to an 11 year olds tv show by contrast is vastly more sophisticated and mature. You're a real credit to your fandom.
Jimperator
9 years, 11 months ago
What is it with people and petty, inconsequential dick measuring contests?

LOL MY FAV FAKE CHARACTER IS BETTER BECAUSE I THINK MY CONJECTURE SOUNDS SMART HURR HURR
TylerTheElephant
9 years, 11 months ago
Do I detect a hint of anger here? Has my comment possibly killed your boner and ruined your night? Lol! Dude, look at the comments and the description. You obviously just got pwnd and trolled. Now get your finger out of your ass, quit raging, and get off the computer.
Jimperator
9 years, 11 months ago
What if I like sticking my fingers in my ass?
TylerTheElephant
9 years, 11 months ago
Then you really need to seek professional help dude.
Jimperator
9 years, 11 months ago
IRASquirrelIRL
9 years, 11 months ago
The theme song does say he's the fastest thing alive.But really ,hedgehogs will opt to curl up in a ball and make hissing noises.But,If they did choose to run,they can run pretty fast.
ThunderFap
9 years, 11 months ago
lol  controversy
ectoBiologist11
9 years, 11 months ago
Some people just want to watch the world derp.

:L

The people above who are arguing,are the ones derping.
ectoBiologist11
9 years, 11 months ago
I've been a fan of both Sonic and Rainbow Dash. I've been a fan of Rainbow Dash since the first generation [I'd watch it with my grandma when I was little]. I can't tell the difference between Sonic and Rainbow Dash's speed,sorry to ruin your parade.
tydin63
9 years, 11 months ago
And to think I thought the immature troll vs. brony argument would stay at Youtube, I was wrong....but hey, as long as all the anti-bronies (those who specifically hate bronies, not just thosewho aren't) are filtered into this one piece of art, i'm okay with this :D
KirbyChan
9 years, 11 months ago
Sonic wins, hands down. He can break the sound barrier at will while RD can't. And I totally call bullshit on the wedding episode where she could do the Sonic Rainboom at will. SINCE WHEN?!
MystycCheez
9 years, 11 months ago
As a fan of both MLP and Sonic, I agree that Sonic is the fastest thing alive. Rainbow Dash had issues breaking the sound barrier while Sonic is like, "Speed of sound? I can crawl that fast backwards in my sleep."
XD
AzureTheGamerKobold
9 years, 11 months ago
In Sonic CD sonic is able to run so fast he travels through time... but yes only 1 guy i believe can run faster then sonic and that is the flash, who has done alot of same feats as sonic, is possibly a better fighter, and faced guys way more powerfiul then sonic ever has. But as far as sonic vs dash goes, i have seen no evidence that dash can move even a fraction of sonic's speed. In fact made a big deal of her breaking the sound barrior... which sonic can do with out trying...in fact he has issues not going that fast as moving slowly seems to be difficult for me in a few episodes of the series and archie comics they hint at this.
Faithry
9 years, 11 months ago
Sonic, the fastest thing alive? Please. Captain Kirk wins by a titanic landslide! In fact, every single character in the Star Trek universe who has ever been on a spaceship wins against Sonic. I honestly don't know how fast those spaceships can go, but I bet it's a whole lot faster than just 'the speed of light'. In fact, pretty much every single character in any universe who has ever been on a faster-than-light vessel has defeated Sonic speed-wise.

I really don't get the whole penis-measuring contest thing between fictional characters between different universes. Let alone a character who gets his blue back-end handed to him by every single commuter taking the local sci-fi space-bus.

And that applies to both of them.

Violyte
9 years, 11 months ago
Using a spaceship doesn't count. Modes of transportation =/= characters' abilities.
Faithry
9 years, 11 months ago
They're all using what the universe makes available to them. For some it's unusually-flexible physics, for others it's advanced technology. How does that not count? Besides, that would still leave all the Artificial Intelligence characters with space-ship bodies.

The point being: If you're using fictional characters from fictional universes, there's no point trying to compare them. Anyone can make a superseding claim on anything since there's no real-world barrier to their abilities.

Example in point, there's a character people call God.
Violyte
9 years, 11 months ago
*ignoring the rather uncalled for and ridiculous stab at religion*

It doesn't count because anyone can use a vehicle/item/power-up/etc., but not anyone can run/fly/etc. fast.

And, if there's no point in comparing them... Then why did you make this in the first place?
Faithry
9 years, 11 months ago
Similarly, anyone can be given the power to run at superspeeds. Isn't Sonic fast because of a power? The problem still sticks.
Besides, how many people do you know that can fly a plane? Controlling a vehicle is a character skill, just like running. No, vehicles count, let alone those creatures like AI-computers who have faster-than-light 'bodies'.
Violyte
9 years, 11 months ago
Erm, no, powers like that can't just be "given" to anyone, but knowledge of vehicle use can be learned. Sorry.
Faithry
9 years, 11 months ago
I'd like to point out that running is also a skill, just like swimming, walking, toddling, and even crawling. By your own reasoning, Sonic would be disqualified.

No, just face it, in fiction there will always be faster/better/stronger/more skilled characters than [insert your favorite here], whichever one is your favorite, no matter what favorite you pick.

Strength or skill aren't what make a character good. Good storywriting and characterization is.
Violyte
9 years, 11 months ago
Running is a skill, yes, but it is a NATURAL one that doesn't require the use of an item.
Faithry
9 years, 11 months ago
Shoes.
Faithry
9 years, 11 months ago
Also food.

So let's see...
First you claim using vehicles is against some kind of arbitrary rule (that you just made up).
Secondly you claim using skills is against some kind of arbitrary rule (that you just made up).
Third you claim using any form of item is against some kind of arbitrary rule (that you just made up).

Sit back, and think about it for a bit. Why are you trying to warp what is basically 'imaginary friend X can move faster than imaginary friend Y' to exclude the faster 'imaginary friend Y'?

The whole point I'm making here, and keep returning to, is that no matter how big of an imaginary power-penis any fictional character has, there will always be countless ones with bigger ones. It's like two boys shouting during recess about how much more powerful their respective imaginary friends are. "Mine is faster than sound!" "Mine is faster than light!" "Mine is so fast he can travel through time!" "Nu-uh! You're not allowed to say that! It's against the rules!"
Violyte
9 years, 11 months ago
I don't think you're getting the point... And if that's what this is to you, then a better question is why do YOU keep continuing with it?
Violyte
9 years, 11 months ago
???

Sonic's shoes aren't what make him run fast, if that's what you're talking about.
Violyte
9 years, 11 months ago
Ignore that last part. I got confused for asecond.
Violyte
9 years, 11 months ago
I would agree that Sonic is probably overall faster than Rainbow Dash, but the way you compared them seems really biased and unfair. You barely even compared their actual speed at all. What I got from this is basically:

"Sonic is faster because he's been there longer and looks cooler. I personally am not a fan of Rainbow Dash and therefore she would lose a race against him. Fuck you, bronies."
Faithry
9 years, 11 months ago
Neither of them look fast, to be honest. Have you seen the size of the head on Sonic? The pony is bad, but hooo-boy, that hedgehog is absolutely horrific when it comes to 'looking like he's fast'.

Huge head, flat face, teensy little legs, massive feet. It's like they designed him to look slow. They don't even bother to animate his legs because it would instantly be obvious that there's no way he could move at any speed beyond 'casual walk'. He's kinda built like a toddler, so maybe his maximum speed is more along the lines of 'toddle'.
Violyte
9 years, 11 months ago
By design, yes, I also think Rainbow Dash looks like she would be a lot faster in a realistic setting. By actual given evidence from both fandoms, well... not so much. It all just depends on how you look at it. There can't really be a winner.
Faithry
9 years, 11 months ago
I think that's kind of the point. Both characters were designed to be cartoonish. Sonic was designed with a large head due to (probably) game-design reasons (you can't properly draw recognizable faces on a tiny sprite-head, I'm guessing), and Rainbow Dash was designed to be an attractive character/toy for little girls. Neither would realistically be considered 'fast', let alone fast enough to break the sound barrier. The only thing was that the writers said 'He/she will be fast!', and since fictional characters are whatever the writers want them to be, they were displayed as fast.

Which is why this is... well... kindof stupid, let alone worth raging over. Fictional characters will be as powerful/fast/smart in their designers/writers want them to be, and there will always be a more ridiculously powerful/fast/smart character no matter what character you pick.
CrinkleCorgi
9 years, 11 months ago
The Flash could definitely outrun Dash, he can travel all around the world in a few seconds
PrysmTKitsune
9 years, 11 months ago
...you forget there's a point that makes rainbow better then sonic, SHE CAN FLY, she doesn't have to go around obstacles, she can just sore in a straight line and thus things that sonic or the flash would have to detour around [admittedly shaving only nanoseconds off there times but still] she can totally ignore....also, shes a well...she...sorry sonic but while i swing both ways i prefer girls to guys.

oh one of ther point that makes her better...if i recall...rainbow dash can 'swim' sonic however 'cant' and yeah he can run fast enough to just 'skip' over water if he stops in the middle of a body of water and sinks hes hosed.
KirbyChan
9 years, 11 months ago
What does swimming have to do with any of this? Are you saying you think RD would win just 'cause you like her more? Because that's basically all I'm getting from that...
PrysmTKitsune
9 years, 11 months ago
truth be told, the only sonic i've ever liked was the version from 'sat am' never cared much for the game versions...as for RD, yeah shes my favorite pony out of all of them, still your objectivity is shot to hell on this too ya know *pokes your avatar* sonic fanboi [or girl] that you obviously are...so i suppose neither one of us is really suited to judge. *shrugs*
KirbyChan
9 years, 11 months ago
Just because I like Sonic more than RD doesn't mean I don't look at what their strengths and weaknesses are. Sonic can break the speed of sound at will, very easily, even while running backwards. RD can't. So Sonic is faster. *shrug*
PrysmTKitsune
9 years, 11 months ago
2 words, sonic rainboom.
KirbyChan
9 years, 11 months ago
That's something I really don't understand and I blame Hasbro for this. Bad storytelling. She can't do a Sonic Rainboom at will. But suddenly with no explanation in the wedding episodes she could. I don't really understand that.
FurCollector
9 years, 11 months ago
2 words, Super Sonic xD
PrysmTKitsune
9 years, 11 months ago
To become which he requires an outside force, rainbow dash needs no such assistance.
jazzypanda
9 years, 11 months ago
Vine a poner:

TETAS
FurCollector
9 years, 11 months ago
PIJAS!! quedaria mas cheto y seria mas acorde con el fandom y la gente que aqui manifesto su opinion xd

Ya en serio, viendo las reacciones en el "preview", ya puedo anticipar las del mini-comic, así que mejor lo cancelo y, bueno... Volvamos a lo de siempre, violación, edad ambigua y mucha humedad en lugares donde no debería haber tanta xd

PD: Lo admito... hubo provocación en la info x3
jazzypanda
9 years, 11 months ago
Pero yo quiero ver cómo se sacan los ojos :'3
FurCollector
5 years, 3 months ago
Te acordas de esto? Y pensar que esta garcha es la que mas Stats tiene de mi galeria jaja
jazzypanda
5 years, 3 months ago
Sonic gana en todo sentido, pero dejar que los fans expongan fue una buena idea :D
Terl
9 years, 11 months ago
If they were dropped in each others realities, Sonic would beat RD every time in raw speed, but just as he slows down to stick with the subsonic Tails, he doesnt find much satisfaction in totally grinding someones face in it unless they really annoy him. Think run several times round the edge of the Great Forest on patrol while waiting for Sally to pick up and put Nichole in her boot holster?

If you really want to argue? theres always the character thats been round a while, and in several realities, and whose basic capabilities can be stated by one simpe quote.

When this baby hits eighty eight miles per hour, you're going to see some serious shit. 8)

Walk, Trot, Canter, Gallop, Overdrive, PowerCell FIRE, Tem-por-al Tri Boom. 8)
MingChee
9 years, 11 months ago
Ha ha awesome. As much as I like Rainbow Dash, I say Sonic wins :P
maikeru
9 years, 11 months ago
Heh, I like the interpretation of the pre-Adventure Sonic design in this picture.  Rainbow Dash is also drawn pretty cutely in this!

Other than that I dunno what to say!  The Sonic fan vs. Brony tiff above me doesn't really interest me. :P
BrokenPupper
9 years, 11 months ago
Y'all say what you want, people are STILL gonna root for the leasbian pony, specially since she's not involved with many horrid games. XD

[Pussy message warning]

Though all of this dissing on Dashy sounds harsh despite some truth on this. She's rather a beginner compare to Sonic (who btw you forgot to mention his speed warped him through time in one of his GOOD games) on this speed stuff, but then again so is his friend/lover Tails. Makes me feel bad for him more than the "awesome" equine. Then again she's more of a showoff performer than a speedster.

[/Pussyfying]

By the way I love how ya drew the two ^^
jazzypanda
9 years, 11 months ago
I read "lesbian" and now I'm replying to your comment...! What happened? XD
heropie
9 years, 11 months ago
clearly, this person is a sonic fan and hates the brony fandom. anyway, before i say my two cents, i love sonic and Dash.
now....

there different many sonics but i choose the canon Sonic from the game series because he's prime sonic you might say.

Sonic can go fast as the speed of light BUT he can't use it unless there a row of rings or bad guys. light dash which its called btw, is more of a attack move than a running move.
Sonic top speed is the speed of sound. even in super sonic, he doesn't go beyond speed of light as many ppl say, but he is much faster in super form.
sonic designed for speed, there no fighting there.

now on to dash.
dash is a fast flyer. faster than anyone in ponyville.
before, she had problems doing the sonic rainboom but she can do it with no problems now after seeing it in season 2 finale.
her body isn't designed for speed but that doesn't matter. i believe her body is very light, since her tiny wings can carry that huge body.

now, who will win?

it will be a draw

why?

sonic won't cheat by using super sonic.
sonic will use the speed boost
dash can use the sonic rainboom because its like the speed boost sonic has from sonic rush, its not cheating.
sonic can break the sound barrier but Dash can as well.

but if you want real fact then here the real winner:

WE WILL NEVER KNOW SINCE THEY CAN NEVER MEET
TwistedPencil
9 years, 10 months ago
It depends which Sonic it is. Modern or Classic? Classic potbellied Sonic could reach Warp Sonic speed, and if he acquired running shoes, could be just as fast if not faster than Dashie. Modern Sonic, however, could use the Light Dash and reach Light Speed, or if it was Sonic Colors Sonic, then he could definitely outrun Dashie because he could use the White Wisps to boost. Dashie has an advantage of her own, though, with her Sonic Rainboom. I'd say it's evenly matched; a no contest.
Sillydraco
9 years, 6 months ago
I was gonna say something witty here, but looking at the comments from both sides I am rather creeped out so goodbye
Killereye
9 years, 5 months ago
I just leave this here...for fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze_uxxFJTvE
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