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Tricksta

Gotta love that new Xbox 360 right?

sure you would buy one... wait wasn't this supposed to be about the xbox tv box?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/10/e3-2013-new-xbo...
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Added: 5 years, 6 months ago
 
Felino
5 years, 6 months ago
I'm so pissed off that Xbox One will have so many great games, while the console is pretty shitty
Shokuji
5 years, 6 months ago
There will be plenty of games to play on PC, and the less people buy consoles the more games will be released cross-platform.
Tricksta
5 years, 6 months ago
and a bunch of new games coming out on the then xbox 360 as well, you can just forget about xbox one all together
Shokuji
5 years, 6 months ago
I really want to forget about consoles at this point. They're not even 'consoles' anymore! The point was inexpensive hardware and straight-forward gaming. Put the disk in and play your game. It's nothing like that anymore! Hardware is expensive and you gotta deal with a crapton of DRM.
fredsite
5 years, 6 months ago
I agree. one of my favorite consoles was the gamecube. all you did was stick the disk in the thing, turn it on and play the game. now, you've got to go through a bunch of crap just to play a game. it takes me up to 3 minutes to play a game on the xbox 360. i don't even want to know what you have to do to play a game on the xbox one.
Shokuji
5 years, 6 months ago
Was quite a bit longer for PS3 games with their installs, but apparently even that's an issue of the past as they've designed the games to install what you need to get started while it installs the rest while you play. At this point it looks like PS4 is going to dominate this generation of console gaming. Sony seem to be offering better hardware and comparable online services all for less than Microsoft's offerings. Personally I'll be getting a WiiU before a PS4 because my PC covers most of the game types I want to play and the only thing left are the Nintendo brands. I really wish Nintendo would become a software-only company and put their games on multiple consoles so more people could play them.
Felino
5 years, 6 months ago
I seriously hope you're right
After all microsoft lied about some some "exclusives"
Tricksta
5 years, 6 months ago
eh but they said over a hundred, so I mean even if they lied that would still mean about 50, that's a bunch of games.
ProfessorQ
5 years, 6 months ago
Highly doubt it. People are going to buy it anyway.
Shokuji
5 years, 6 months ago
I doubt it too, but I don't care anymore. I've decided not to buy any of the new consoles and invest whatever I would have spent on them back into my PC. All this 'generation' of consoles have done is refortify my existing stance on games.
Amaterasu
5 years, 6 months ago
ttttttttttTTTTTTTTHHHHHIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

all of the games lined up for it so far sound really fun, albiet nothing im really excited for but still
Shokuji
5 years, 6 months ago
I think it was about excluding people from games, because all they talked about was "exclusives".

And no word on DRM? No wai!
Shinxtailes
5 years, 6 months ago
You mean the things they've said will be on Xbone like 24 hour chaek-ins, one game copy for each account, no trading used games unless your friend had been on your friends list for more then 30 days, etc?
Tricksta
5 years, 6 months ago
and you guys just sat and let this happen








X3
Shokuji
5 years, 6 months ago
I like how all of those things have been spun into 'features' on their XBone website.
Shinxtailes
5 years, 6 months ago
This is how things work over there at MS: http://i.imgur.com/aoqLIti.jpg
Shokuji
5 years, 6 months ago
They certainly like to spin things to their favor, even when they're the worst things they'll find a way to make it sound good.. well.. good to people who don't think for themselves.
Bianca
5 years, 6 months ago
Call of Dog HD TV TV TV HD Dog Sports Dog TV Sports EA Call of TV
DraculJOSHI
5 years, 6 months ago
I am so glad that I stick with Nintendo, they are awesome and they always stay so.
LupusDaemon
5 years, 6 months ago
Yeah, it's Xbox One, not 360.
Tricksta
5 years, 6 months ago
the new "xbox 360" comes out today "xbox one" comes out later http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/10/e3-2013-new-xbo...
NikoHowlii
5 years, 6 months ago
Im going for PS4 :p Seems pretty good to me just expensive X3
KhellSennet
5 years, 6 months ago
Console gaming died for me with the PS2.  Nothing since has been as good, had as many good games, or entertained me for as long.

<--- Proudly part of the PC Gaming Master Race
Alfador
5 years, 6 months ago
When can we go back to the days when the worst problem we had to deal with could be solved by blowing on the cartridge?
fredsite
5 years, 6 months ago
That was the best, when sometimes the games wouldn't work just because of a bit of dust. Now you have to worry about all the technical bullshit that should work from the get-go. I think they made the games more reliable and the systems less reliable.
RedReynart
5 years, 6 months ago
Games, what about games? First there was the Arcade, Then the Home Console, Then PC. Yeah in that order. Wait... PC, Arcade then Console. That is right..

See games started when a bunch of military contractors that literally managed computers all day got so bored, they decided to play around. And thus Tennis for Two was born, Then came pong, Then the arcade was born. Odyssey thought a home system would be great so people could play at home and Magnavox quickly took up on that. Well so you have a minor history lesson.

What does this mean? Technology advances and games come to us in different forms and fashions. When game systems are made allot of the major companies hone in on making their systems stand out. I see half the debate is on exclusive marketing. <.< *Face Paws* Oviously you never heard of Mario (Nintendo), Sonic (SEGA), or even CrashBandicoot (Playstation). Every company has its mascots and exclusive games. That is why Nintendo markets to Children, Playstation for teens and young adults and Microsoft the adult crowd. There are exceptions but you can clearly see their markets.

As for why people still play on councils. Tell me that you never played a game that was some how better on your TV than PC. (personal computer means it is yours, not that is is a windows or a mac) The controler may be a factor for playing, or perhaps your HUGE tv.  Another great feature is when players can team up on a coutch co-op or go for compeition. You don't need internet for that or a huge lan room.

I heard in another mini debate here that games are all going for co-op these days, FALSE. Games are highly seperated on demographics and generation. If you are in the Millineal generation then you perhaps would as I enjoy co-op games. If you are in Generation X then you like Solo and Single Player games. This realization was realized LONG AGO and all games are market towards a demographic by development team and publisher. If you dont' like the game, get one you do like and stop complaining.

Another thing, The prices of games are too much. The cost to develop a game is allot of work. You would gladly pay Blotch (or Tricksta) for their work with out a second thought, do you appreciate it because you are geting porn? or do you appreciate that what they do is art and time consuming? My thoughts exactly. Development in game take allot of time and effort and offten goes unappreciated and ignoired. The consumer constantly demands, new graphics and realism, fast paced game play, real time, super physics , and the list goes on... Games have come a long way from a simple white dot and lines on the screen. It takes many HOURS, MONTHS, and even YEARS to produce a game and a team dedicated in working every momment of freetime to get the game on the market. It is a cut throat compeitition that constantly pressures the dev team on time and money. Least you can do is spend a few dollars for a game.

But what of the cost then compared to now? Prices are based on technology. Again, it takes more time to make a game NOW then it was THEN. That being said, The economy is the second factor as well as the supply and demand. (Do your homework!) Besides, are you really, are you really going to complain about games being outrageously high? You seemed to buy your console pretty ok with out complaints.

(2Cents from someone In the Industry)
saintkoopa
5 years, 6 months ago
well tought out response. I don't complain for the price of the system or games at this point. you know what you get when you are buying these things now and you choose which one you think will suit you best. (I replace my pc every year so PC gaming has never been a thing for me. But my Xbox original is still working and I still play it. actually every console I every bought is still working can't say that for my five computers ...)

I am Actually glad the industry is trying their best to get rid of used games. The developers work hard on their games and get reward by sales but guess what if Gamestop or others buy a used game from consumers for like 5-10 and ten sells it back at 90% of the regular price? what is the point of that exactly? There are few things here and there about both consoles I don't like but I already decieded which one to get. I think the internet is just overreacting again.
RedReynart
5 years, 6 months ago
When it comes to games, The developers that created the game and spent all the hours working on it dreads the day they have to cut support for their games. Be it that the support they cut is the sales, patches, expansions or so forth. Longevity is the goal for every game developer. The major Console creators is what is trying to go (as well as the PC market) for this digital medium.

There is major controversy onto what this can actually do,
The first being that the sales is kept by the primary retailer (Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft.)
The second is that it makes it harder to pirate (this is high controversy)

The other side states that it makes it easier to pirate the games when in a digital format (again high controversy debate)
and that the Big three are more controlling the medium making it harder to buy,sell, trade their games (almost an in house monopoly)

I agree with the points made by both sides of the debate.

Making games from the developers perspective is to make games first and money latter. If your only goal is money, you are in the wrong industry.

Used games are a huge longevity plus, it allows games that are no longer being sold as new to still be enjoyed by others and eventrully continue to play your games and your franchise of games to come. I seriously hate picking up a game mid series into the franchise. It becomes a bit confusing when you are introduced to new chracters or have scenes that reflect on past events from a previous game.. Things don't make sence and you play catch up to guess what is going on.

Luck has it PS2 games are still being sold so I picked up a bunch of these games just to play what I have been missing.  Sadly with the PS4 now out... You can see that this market will sadly have to cut support and close its doors to still being sold. A sad day for any gamer or developer.

I can definatly see how going to a digital format can hinder the sale of used games.. Thankfully though, the PS3 has released through the Playstation Network many of the PS1 games. But something will always be magical about holding a physical object and not all games made get onto the network and sorta fade into history.

So the debate continues...

As for myself. I just like making games and seeing others that enjoy playing them.
(2cents from someone in the industry)
fredsite
5 years, 6 months ago
The reason i still read hard-copy books and not the books on my kindle or PC is because I enjoy holding the physical thing in my hands, not just having a few words to my username somewhere in the cloud. That is the same with my games. Also, making the games digital makes it more difficult to share the fun with friends.
RedReynart
5 years, 6 months ago
Agreed..

I am a type that enjoys a hard book and physical items. With books I am a person who not only likes the feel of the book in my hands but also one who when researching for information likes to have multiple books layed out on a table so I can then bounce from book to book pulling out info that is relevent. Also browsing a library with shelves of books is much easier to do and to locate the books you want.

Video games is very much the same in where we have brick and mortar stores that sell games. You can easily browse for a game, pick one up, read the back to see if it is for you and continue on.

There are very few brick and mortar stores that actrually rent games these days. Block Buster is slowly fading away (there are a few locations though they are closing down as well) The only other store near by is Family Video. I enjoy them for the same reason I enjoyed Hollywood Video and BlockBuster. Physical Items, Renting, and Easier browsing.  

Browsing over 300 pages on netflix or hulu is just a headache just for a movie.. And you can't really search quick enough for what you want because you have to be quite specific and not to vauge.

Though some like the convience of online and digital (because they can find things from home) I respect that. =) Though definatly like physical games and movies.

(2Cents from someone in the Industry, IGDA Member, Microsoft, Unity, UDK,  YoYo Games)
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