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KichigaiKitsune

Ehhh, okay, I have the book.

Finally managed to get a hold of Ender's Game. I likely won't be watching the movie when it comes out, because as I've already said it seems to be completely missing the entire point of the book.

Read a little so far. Not really had the chance to sit down and get into it. I do like it so far, all reservations about the author and his political and religious beliefs aside.

So far, seen nothing of the homoerotic or just plain weird scenes. Frankly, it wouldn't shock me to learn they'd taken them out - Card apparently has been tweaking this story since its second publication.

If there's one criticism I have here, it's just that I'm trying to imagine a child Ender's age (not to mention his peers) behaving the way he does in this book, and it's just not working. At least not all of the time.

Anyway. In the meantime, I'm gonna go work on my own (crap, unknown) novel!
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Zer0
5 years, 4 months ago
It's hard to imagine because you have to picture a child that absorbs information at an alarming rate and is intelligent enough to process it just as fast, but without the ability to compare it to life experiences that said child has yet to live. Anything textbook related and being able to read people should come second nature, but trying to analyze ones own emotions and attempting to compare them to others of their own age becomes a quagmire.

Very hard to imagine because, unless you are a child genius or grew up with one, the concept is completely foreign. And it's not enough to say "he's a smart kid", you'd literally have to say he has savant syndrome, with the handicap being purely emotional in nature.

Mind you, the kids are being portrayed in an unrealistic fashion, but still realistic enough that it hits the emotional heartstrings of many people and that alone causes a schism between people who love/hate the book.
Aerotan
5 years, 4 months ago
As the kid who was apparently the step or two behind Ender (really really smart and rather awkward, though neither to the degree Ender is), I can certainly support this. I had a hard time understanding kids my own age because I was too busy understanding Greek mythology. (of course, then  I met kids who knew a thing or two about narrative causality themselves and became something of a likable scamp.) It's not hard to see that taken even further, especially if you add in the two-child limit and Ender being a third kid with all those stigma.

Of course that doesn't stop Card from being a tool or any of the rest of those prodigies being a tad more vicious and jerky than any kids I'd ever known. Which is saying something, really.
KichigaiKitsune
5 years, 4 months ago
Yeah, I know, I'm well aware of Ender's intelligence and the like, that's not what I'm talking about, and I'm not just talking about Ender himself. For instance, the behavior of the bullies early in the story, and the sort of physical damage Ender manages to inflict. It's just a few odd moments that stick out to me. Sometimes, it seems like I'm suddenly reading about much older kids than I was a page ago. (Again, not in terms of intelligence, that I can perfectly understand.)

Also, I don't see Ender as having any emotional/social handicap whatsoever, at least not so far. He doesn't seem autistic or "savanteur" to me. Not beyond the damage being inflicted on him by the staff. He's just formidably intelligent.

It was just an observation. Overall I'm enjoying the read.
Zer0
5 years, 4 months ago
As for kids seeming older, I don't know if I ever noticed that before. I'd have to skim through it again, maybe there's something I missed.

Not going to go into spoilers, but most everything in the book is explained one way or another. Best thing to do is to read it till the end. Hell, even after I've read it a few times myself I occasionally see something that I never noticed before that shines some light in a dark corner I never knew existed, lol.

Have fun with it :D
indorri
5 years, 4 months ago
Won't say anything else 'cause I want you to form your own opinion on the book without me priming you.

Only thing I will say is that I prefer the sequel.
Aerotan
5 years, 4 months ago
I prefer the sidequel, tbh. Ender's Shadow was 90% pure awesome in text form.
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