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KichigaiKitsune

Uhh... did they just ruin what could have been the most epic movie in years?

No, I'm not talking about The Hobbit, I haven't seen that yet. I have faith in that one.

What I'm referring to is the upcoming Ender's Game movie.

Don't get me wrong, anything with Harrison Ford in it is going to be awesome.  Also, I totally haven't read more than a little of Ender's Game, but by its premise alone I think it sounds fantastic - in fact, come to think of it, I'm gonna grab it at the library tomorrow.

Ahem, anyway. Really confused by the early footage clearly depicting far older kids than should be in the movie. Although I hear they're trying to condense the book into a single year (uhhh....), it still is a little absurd to start off Ender's Game with older teens and just phone it in like that. As I recall, the story starts with the main character about 5 or 6, and ends with him being a diminutive 15 year old - although the actor playing Ender is supposedly 15, he looks older for his age.

The first released picture makes me think more about Dog Pound meets Full Metal Jacket after being violently abused by Tron.

Hopefully it'll be a fine movie by its own merits - I'll read the book all the way at last regardless. I'm just raising eyebrows at the possibility the producers did another fantastic derp and decided to use older teens again because they're idiots and/or don't want to work with child actors. Or they think it'd be "inappropriate" given the subject material.

Remember how Let The Right One In/Let Me In succeeded and had awesome performances because the producers/directors flipped the executives the bird? When using child actors it's not only possible to make fantastic productions, but there's an entirely different spin on things. Let The Right One In would've failed utterly in every way had Oskar been merely 5 years older. This isn't just a "youth rights" rant or some bollocks, it's a valid point: will an Ender's Game movie function with that entire element excised? Any fans want to weigh in on it? How about the possibility that they're going to shoot for a PG rating?
Just saying. I mean, if they really want to cram everything into one year, then I suppose it makes sense. But I'm very dubious.

Aww, heck, who am I kidding? It has Ford in it. I'm going to catch this in cinema as soon as it comes out. Wait... no, a week after the initial rush. Screw that, I'm not squeezing into a packed theater.

PS: apparently the kids in the book sleep in the nude.
One, no surprise that's not in the movie. Two, uhh, that's kinda... um... riiiiight. Three, eww, you're gonna be washing those sheets daily I hope. Eww.
Also, as for the dude playing Ender being "big for his age"? Wasn't it sort of a theme that Ender was very small when he grew (the size of an average 12 year old) but compensated for it with his wit?


-- Addendum --

I know Orson Scott Card is anti-homosexual, and a Mormon. I have serious reservations about Mormons and the CLDS. Please do not feel any need to remind me. -.-
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Added: 5 years, 11 months ago
 
RainyKirin
5 years, 11 months ago
You should go read it, it's really good if not very...homoerotic. Just sayin, for someone so actively against gay rights Card sure knows how to write in some subtext.

But I didn't even know there was a movie coming out. I need to go look that up now. :V
KichigaiKitsune
5 years, 11 months ago
Well, yeah, room full of nude adolescents sleeping together at night (why the hell are they nude?!). Kinda makes me wonder if Card isn't hiding something from us. Oh well, I don't care. If he wrote a good book, whatever. I'm sure many of my readers disagree with me on some things but still don't mind a read!

Also, if you're telling me there's even more subtext in there, I am so checking it out on principle. The Lulz Principle in fact.
kitaness
5 years, 11 months ago
There's more. A lot more :o If you look at Card's body of work, especially the earlier stuff, you'll find that he has a really hard time going more than say, 50 pages or so without dropping some sort of reference to homosexuality in there, usually also in the context of kids. After several books of this it's hard to come to any other conclusion than that Card is utterly obsessed with gay pedophilia. Not to mention Songmaster and what he did to Hamlet...

I'm fully convinced that any Ender's Game movie is going to be a trainwreck due to the fact that 90% of the exposition happens in Ender's head and that they probably aren't going to have the balls to make the movie brutal enough.
RainyKirin
5 years, 11 months ago
One of the major plot points is a naked shower fight...it's described in pretty rich detail from what I recall. There's other minor stuff, like the kids at the academy casually playing video games in the nude.

It's actually a fine book though. Speaker of the Dead (the sequel) isn't bad either, though it's got a completely different feel to it (it can stand on it's own if you haven't read Ender's Game).
RokukeShiba
5 years, 11 months ago
I dunno i'll see it since Card gets money from it.


Card is a dick.
vulPN
5 years, 11 months ago
It's an impressive book. But I doubt their ability to make a book that complex PG without completely fucking it up. Then again, I doubt their ability to make a movie centered around the lives of children for adults without completely fucking it up.

Also, Harrison Ford.
Gobby
5 years, 11 months ago
Wait, PG? I mean, they'll never get away with the stunning amount of prepubescent nudity, but that wasn't really important to the plot, IMO. What is important, however, was the brutality, and the depths to which we sink in wartime. I have serious doubts that the message of the original can be preserved in a PG format.
KichigaiKitsune
5 years, 11 months ago
I had doubts they'd be foolish enough to make a PG Die Hard movie, but there you go! I don't know if they're going for a PG rating; however that is the current trend and it has been established as so desirable that executives will meddle relentlessly to get most things lowered to PG. Here's hoping my cynicism is misplaced.

I doubt they'll even try to preserve any message whatsoever in it.
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