They state that the content is legal in Finland, but in Estonia its illegal and then that it is grey area in Sweden (Which, according to a friend, it actually is black/white banned, and thats why inkbunny has our no human rule, someone feel free to correct me on this though) Which brings to mind a few thing. 1. Why is your website that categorized itself from the getgo as even having a NSFL (Not Safe For Life) category spread across so many different nations? 2. They were repeatedly and directly asked by people, including some of my friends what the limits were.
What we actually think is happening is that with buzzly's implosion and an attempt at a twitter exodus, Itaku is, like Patreon, turning its back on those who helped build it in the first place. As of the past few months antific people had started joining as well as people with a large audience.
They state that the content is legal in Finland, but in Estonia its illegal and then that it is grey
Everything expands into mediocrity. A site becomes popular and inevitably they decide to sell out. Unfortunately the only solution for the time being seems to be to continually move on, or to find a place that will never be popular
Everything expands into mediocrity. A site becomes popular and inevitably they decide to sell out. U
Speaking of concerns like that, I find it strange that no company has yet thought to launch servers into orbit, or to put them on a ship in international waters and bounce the signal off a satellite. That would sidestep problems like national regulations handily.
Speaking of concerns like that, I find it strange that no company has yet thought to launch servers
that would just make that satelite a prime target for "accidents" in space where somebody "accidentall" bumps into it with some space junk at 4000 km/h
that would just make that satelite a prime target for "accidents" in space where somebody "accidenta
Whoever manages that and supplies it with an internet connection will have authorities on Earth to deal with. Without that, you'd only manage to give service to a dozen ham radio enthusiasts.
It wouldn't work. Whoever manages that and supplies it with an internet connection will have author
It's r/technicallythetruth They didnt really market at all. They just used our community to do it for them but it was based off of things they were telling us about how the site worked when we asked. Scummy. The point is we advocated for it because of the freefic policy
It's r/technicallythetruth They didnt really market at all. They just used our community to do it fo
Woo, chased off another site. I've seen this happen so much I can't even find the energy to get mad about it anymore. I just hope IB never goes that route.
Woo, chased off another site. I've seen this happen so much I can't even find the energy to get mad
There's no reason I can see why Inkbunny would ever go that route.
But decentralized, open source platforms will help empower humanity more and more, anyway.
I'm starting to get kind of against centralization of services anyway. People need to be able to start their own communities easily and effectively, which is why I wish more furries would use Revolt (once it gets there) and Matrix, and get off of Telegram and Discord.
There's no reason I can see why Inkbunny would ever go that route. But decentralized, open source p
Yeah, well the admin was Toumal, and there's a lot of drama surrounding him after he was faced with legal issues too, so what do you expect from that? :p
Yeah, well the admin was Toumal, and there's a lot of drama surrounding him after he was faced with
I know that https://lewd.host/ hasn't taken down my files yet. That's what I use, but you'll have to upload everything in a ZIP if you're talking about a comic. 512MB file size limit is friendly, but not for everyone. I would have said for bigger files use FileDitch but... I feel like their Website has not been working great for me all the time. :(
If you've given up, and you want to do something self-hosted. Try Piwigo - https://piwigo.org/
Mostly I'm embarrassed because I was advocating so highly for them since the community I was in discovered them before they even hit 5000 users, and now they are at at least 15000 users, more than that. I know this because someone was doing a self challenge to follow every user on itaku and thats how far they got before they gave up.
Man I've been gathering the archive links and keeping people up to date for like 2 hours. =w=;;
The most offensive part of this to me is that they claim they never used freefic or freedom of expression ideas to promote their platform. Which is a flat out lie. The community I'm in joined the site starting December 2021 and everyone was so excited. In the itaku discord itself, staff were repeatedly asked if shota/loli/cub were allowed and they were told your usual fare of "as long as its fictional and not realistic 3d its fine" All of the chats in their entire discord have been wiped as of April 2022 to obfuscate this.
Mostly I'm embarrassed because I was advocating so highly for them since the community I was in disc
I'm salty about Elon Musk buying twitter too. But if you're going to make a website to compete with a massive platform like twitter you have two options: 1 - offer something twitter doesn't or 2 - accept that your users are going to be the people that twitter doesn't want/kicked out.
If you are going to make a site with a worse UI than twitter (somehow), less than 1% of the reach, AND your rules about what's allowed on the site are essentially the same as twitter's you can't really get mad when it stays empty.
I'm salty about Elon Musk buying twitter too. But if you're going to make a website to compete with
And here I was considering joining. Full well glad I didn't now.
Like I get it, being harassed over your content isn't nice, it really isn't. But if you're gonna claim to use one country's laws for your site's domain while invoking the laws of the place you *actually* live in as the reason you are disregarding them, than why even bother making the site in the first place? Should of banned the content in the first place, or hell make them tagged in the blacklist by default, and removing it comes with a popup telling the user they've only themselves to blame if they don't like what they see and that precautions regarding their eyes were indeed made.
And here I was considering joining. Full well glad I didn't now. Like I get it, being harassed ove
My webhost replied: no sexually explicit depictions of children allowed, not even drawings. Oh well.
There's still lolicit, although you might not like the appearance of their pages. I posted my stories, "Whatever Rhonda Wants" and "Whatever Russell Wants" there. Didn't get much response, but no problems either.
Come to think of it, I should also post the covers you drew for those two stories there.
My webhost replied: no sexually explicit depictions of children allowed, not even drawings. Oh well.
Yeah, I decided based on this that i won't be using itaku anymore. I don't have confidence that they won't do the same thing to more and more content. That's what happened to Buzzly until it imploded, And many other [formerly]new art sites. I made an account earlier in the year, and I made sure to read the rules to double check at that time of what content it didn't allow. Don't want to go through the same thing over and over again with new sites. They need super clear rules on content they aren't allowing from the start, and need to make a very apparent notice about any rule changes that can reach all users on the site when they do make changes like this.
Yeah, I decided based on this that i won't be using itaku anymore. I don't have confidence that they
I've made it a personal policy that any sites which aren't already well-known aren't gonna have me hopping over or doing any free advertising with em unless new users are able to actually have a working relationship with the admins (ie: they're approachable and you can talk to them), otherwise the second some ken or karen gets involved you have a good chance of them turning into jerks and throwing people under the bus the first sign someone's gonna cause trouble @w@
In any case!! Nothing wrong with inkbunny when it comes to submitting art, if ya ask me!!
I've made it a personal policy that any sites which aren't already well-known aren't gonna have me h
I think that was what was so devastating about this because the moderators and admin joined our community and many of us were able to talk directly to them in a candid manner ;w;
I think that was what was so devastating about this because the moderators and admin joined our comm
It's been my experience that with the offended, the mere fact that the content is allowed on the site at all is what offends them. That they don't have to look at it is irrelevant to them.
It's been my experience that with the offended, the mere fact that the content is allowed on the sit
I hadn't even heard of this site until now. And now I know to avoid it like the Plague.
Also, "we never advertised it like that" screams "scam." Reminds me of a "traditional publisher" I entrusted with a novel years ago, advertised out the yin-yang about how great it was but then in the contract it said that by signing, you agree that nothing represented anywhere except in that contract was ever promised to you - and that included their own website that made all those promises in the first place!
Also, that Roht dude has some serious gall, accusing you of "gaslighting" when you have the evidence right there to back your claims up and prove him wrong. There's very little in this world that I hate more than a fucking badmin.
I hadn't even heard of this site until now. And now I know to avoid it like the Plague. Also, "we
they are basically pulling a goverment spy treatment. you have someone "not part of the company" do all the work (the modarators who are only suppose to add NSFW tags and nothing else) and then when it gets spotted you pull the "we arnt associated with them" In the end,even if what they say is true ...dosnt change the fact that they didn't even check there own laws first until after the 'not advertisment'
they are basically pulling a goverment spy treatment. you have someone "not part of the company" do
I mean I highly doubt it was intentional. It seems like because they were ignorant of the law they made their rules and whoever was going around excited to be a part of the moderation team talking up the site answered questions based on those rules and gave the impression that the site was sholi friendly. The fact that Roht doesn't even know what a fucking loli IS did not help things. But yes in the end they can just disavow. "We never told them to do that, we never told them that was the policy, that is just how they interpreted it. They weren't acting in any official capacity." and that might all be true but the end result is the same. Lots of people got the wrong idea about the site.
I mean I highly doubt it was intentional. It seems like because they were ignorant of the law they m
To be honest, after reading through their reasoning and how much shit they're having to put up with, I'm entirely with them on this one. They didn't handle it well, but they did what they had to in order to keep the website running; the alternative would have just been closing the entire thing down, which would probably even now be the easier move to make.
You can be for free expression and still be concerned you're going to be arrested, or be forced to dox someone to some government because you're hosting content that you don't even personally like. What are you wanting from these people, exactly? Because whining about this is only going to result in the admins saying "Fuck it, you deal with this" and shutting the entire thing down. If you want to host more content like that, you'd have a better job going to the dark web, where legality barely matters. On the surface web, there are more concerns than just "what do our users think".
To be honest, after reading through their reasoning and how much shit they're having to put up with,
they didn't know the law, wrote their rules and answered questions about the website based on ignorance, then changed it later. That's their biggest problem. Ignorance and incompetence.
they didn't know the law, wrote their rules and answered questions about the website based on ignora
Just a random FYI: Hiccears is fixed up. The new galleries look uglier, but at least follows and favorites are working again. And they're still allowing the usual stuff.
Just a random FYI: Hiccears is fixed up ( https://www.hiccears.com/ ) . The new galleries look uglie
they've changed their rules twice in a month because apparently they did not even know the laws in their host country (countries??? they named like four which they have to be held account to for some reason). Whatever their reasons, ignorance or malice, it's shitty and I'm angry at them lol
they've changed their rules twice in a month because apparently they did not even know the laws in t
1. (artsite) lets people know that it allows cub/loli/shota art. 2. cub/loli/shota artists and their fans join (artsite), since it's hard to find a site that allows such. 3. as (artsite) gains popularity, it also gains more mainstream artists and fans. 4. once (artsite) hits a critical mass of users, the cub/loli/shota artists are kicked to the curb with no warning.
Piczel and Picarto are two that come immediately to mind.
I've seen this happen over and over again. 1. (artsite) lets people know that it allows cub/loli/sh
It is beyond stupid we are this far into the internet era and still struggling to share drawings. I think my phone has more storage and bandwidth than the entire VCL did in the 1990s - yet even with millions of whole-ass desktop computers connected, these sites collapse when one person says boo.
The fundamental problem is that community is not a business model. The only monetary interest for a forum should be minimizing cost. "People show up and talk to each other" will not make money. Any effort to make money from that is treating those people as a resource to be burned.
Meanwhile everything decentralized is either rife with (or explicitly designed for) people who were justifiably banned from social media, and people who are justifiably hiding from law enforcement.
This is why we can't have nice things.
It is beyond stupid we are this far into the internet era and still struggling to share drawings. I
If you make an alternative to a large platform you have two options: 1 - provide a service the original is lacking, or 2 - be the one that people go to when they're banned from the bigger one. Itaku isn't 1, and it doesn't want to be 2. It will never get any mainstream traction unless one of those things changes.
If you make an alternative to a large platform you have two options: 1 - provide a service the origi
People really should be trying to chat and RP with closer friends. Trying to do otherwise has usually ended badly for me, but different people have different experiences, I guess... It usually ends up being better to RP that way than with RPing with new people you meet Online.
F-List and F-Chat's community is pretty bad, IMO. People really should be trying to chat and RP wit
You can do the absolute bare minimum and it will pass inspection. And you can censor it with a tool like betterrepack so that people can just decensor the images themselves. It's a small price to pay for otherwise being able to post literally whatever you want (as long as it's art).
You can do the absolute bare minimum and it will pass inspection. And you can censor it with a tool
Honestly its reasons like this that still make me want to self host sites from my own fucking house...my servers my rules (so long as shits not illegal in the state of residence)
***problem is I still do not have my own house so I can't do this yet...figure thats an important clarification others wont automatically just know
Honestly its reasons like this that still make me want to self host sites from my own fucking house.
Ugh, I've daydreamed about this too tbh but THEN you also have to worry about the Internet Service Provider getting bitchy too, which can get you fucked if you're in an area where theres only so many options.
Ugh, I've daydreamed about this too tbh but THEN you also have to worry about the Internet Service P
Most people host Web servers on a paid VPS--or other Cloud-thingy or hosting provider--to get around ISP restrictions. Some people even use it as a local VPN tunnel like OpenVPN or Wireguard to get around CG-NAT, or a landlord's router, and then access the internet without being firewalled or filtered in any way.
At least you have more of a choice of who hosts your Website/service than your choice of ISPs, usually.
Most people host Web servers on a paid VPS--or other Cloud-thingy or hosting provider--to get around
Vpn...isp cant see shit that way. Dual isps as well would help with other possible issues...ive had much too long to ponder how to do this. I have plans for things such as that
Vpn...isp cant see shit that way. Dual isps as well would help with other possible issues...ive had
I see, he wanted to do an art thing, but the dude wasn't smart enough to know what art was.
If art needs to be banned and rules changed... that's not the artist fault, that's the mod. When the controversial artist decide to leave, instead of being happy.. they try to save face.
I used to run an art forum.. I know the pressure to seem to be right all the time, but I think you also need to be honest.
The Mod tried to be honest, but they're deluding them self.
I see, he wanted to do an art thing, but the dude wasn't smart enough to know what art was. If ar
