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KichigaiKitsune

These Romans Are Crazy!

... Yes, that was an Asterix reference. If you don't know what that is...

Anyway, take a look at this.

Most people are aware that the Greeks and Romans worshiped "Eros" or "Cupid." Make no mistake, Eros was the god of love, but also sexual attraction, lust, and so on, so forth. All of these were considered an integral part of a romantic relationship, as we should consider them today.
Of course, we tend to choke when we admit that "lust" is part of a healthy relationship too, but it is.

However, I at least hadn't ever heard of "Anteros."
I only have a loose understanding, but chew on this.

Eros, the god of sexuality and love, was lonely, so Ares and Aphrodite conceived of a new god: Anteros, god of requited love. The mutuality of what Eros embodied.
Aaaand put him with Eros as a "play-mate."

Don't forget this: 'Eros was associated with athleticism, with statues erected in gymnasia, and "was often regarded as the protector of homosexual love between men."'

Hm, I wonder what Eros and Anteros got up to at night, eh?

Oh, and I ran into a lot of people who were into mythology in high school. A lot of them thought Apollo was awesome.

How many of y'all know that Apollo was the patron deity of boy-love (along with the object of his love, Hyacinthus)? Y'know, president of the Mt. Olympus NAMBLA chapter? Isn't it funny how people are scared to mention that?

So Eros and Anteros are actually two (boy) gods of (gay) sex that fooled around at night- I'd love to see them make a statue of THAT and put it up in a park, by the way- not the innocent angels everyone is trying to make them out to be, and the god of the sun was also the god of taking thirteen-year-old boys out to a candlelit dinner.

Oh! Before I go: that line in 300 pissed me off.
The people who made that movie absolutely must have done their research (I attribute the errors in that movie to creative license) so what's with insinuating it was the Athenians who predominantly practiced pederasty and the badass Spartans would never dream?
Afraid it'd portray your good guys in a negative light? How about you just don't make the joke and look like tools?

The badass, killing-machine Spartans were the ones that did it the most. That's most certainly not the worst thing you could've mentioned, though.

I think the mass-murdering and oppression of slaves is a liiiiittle worse than them engaging in consensual inter-generational fooling around, don't you?

... and I know I mostly referred to the ancient Greeks instead of the Romans. Shut up. Asterix still rocks.
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Winterimage
6 years, 10 months ago
Asterix rocks, but Obelix menhirs!

Anteros was a new acquaintance for me, too. I guess our classes on the Greek/Roman pantheon was a tad censored, as well. Then again, it's no news that people tend to pick the bits they like and discard the rest, apparently in archaic religions as well as in those that are still with us. And anything that might make homosexuality seem like a good idea ends up in the trash bin.

As a bit of curiosity, and to prove that the Romans sont fous long after the days of Asterix, one only need to look at the mediaeval witch-hunts, when Italy and Spain competed in executing sinners of all kind. Among the crimes that led to the merry bonfires was, of course, homosexuality, and to show off the rivalry between the two countries, the Spanish called it the 'Italian sin', while the Italians naturally called it the 'Spanish sin'. Neither was meant as a compliment.

Oddly enough, homosexuality seemed to be non-existent during the Swedish witch-hunts. We only had three crimes; sorcery, satanism and bestiality, often joyfully combined. As far as I know, only one man was ever convicted of homosexuality during that time, an army officer whose subordinates reported him as being 'unfittingly rude in words and deeds' to them. His punishment wasn't death, instead he was transferred to a regiment in Finland. Experts nowadays believe that people most likely were gay even back in those days, but that such liaisons were probably kept in the dark. And with the trio of crimes mentioned earlier being, it seemed, quite abundant, there was more than enough fuel for the flames without searching the gays out.
KichigaiKitsune
6 years, 10 months ago
"to show off the rivalry between the two countries, the Spanish called it the 'Italian sin', while the Italians naturally called it the 'Spanish sin'. Neither was meant as a compliment."
I did not know that. In a way, it's kind of amusing.

It's gratifying to see that Sweden managed to retain a bit of sense even back then in the dark ages. It seems like much of the world was devoid of it at the time.
indorri
6 years, 10 months ago
Yeah, the ancient gods got really freaky. Funny how that stuff gets wiped clean, but you can pretty much find the stories of Zeus sexing up the ladies as a bull or a swan or some other animal.
squirrelfox
6 years, 10 months ago
Can I be the Hyacinthus to your Apollo?  :p

..... minus the murder by the west wind, of course.  XP
Manafox
6 years, 10 months ago
It's a surprise to most that the ancient Greeks were heavy on the whole pederasty thing, as were other contemporary cultures. Sex was also a more tolerated (and more important) gesture of appreciation and intimacy.

...The western world has borrowed a lot from those guys, why not their views on sex, too? D;
KichigaiKitsune
6 years, 10 months ago
Well, because we also borrowed the whole "Christianity" nonsense. *faceplant*
RainyKirin
6 years, 10 months ago
Everyone always jokes about Zeus' little escapades (y'know, could sex, swan sex, bull sex, sex sex), but neglect to mention Ganymede the like...12 year old Trojan prince he kept cooped up on Olympus because of his beauty. I guessyou can have your Roman/Greek mythology on the silly side, but if it delves into real-world shit then you have to forget about it.
Then there's the Hyacinthus, Apollo, Zephyrus love triangle. Eros and Anteros are new to me though, yay!

Freakin love mythology.
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