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Trying my hand at Weaselgrease's & MadDog's character once more, Weylen Wolf =D

I still don't like how certain aspects of this picture came out, but hey, I won't get better if I don't try =p

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Type: Picture/Pinup
Published: 4 years, 2 months ago
Rating: General

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Kepora
4 years, 2 months ago
Weylen is Weaselgrease's, btw - not MD's. :P
RufusTheRat
4 years, 2 months ago
Oh ok! Whoops! Sometimes it's hard for me to remember which of their characters is jointly owned by them, and which aren't x3

Thanks for clearin' that up! =D
Kepora
4 years, 2 months ago
well, the only one of them that MD owns is Jarvis - and he only half-owns him. :P But yeah, cute pic :3
RufusTheRat
4 years, 2 months ago
Thank you! ^^ <3
Kepora
4 years, 2 months ago
To MD, since he's got the gall to throw things around without having the spine to take it in return:

"My advice would be not to claim who owns who if you're not going to show proper research and respect for it. You've shown that lack of respect several times now. I'm not sure if it's deliberate or just based upon ignorance, but frankly neither is better than the other."

That's nice and all - only if, you know, there was anything TO research. You don't share any of that information ANYWHERE near easily accessible for the reader or other writers, and - in all fairness - you don't really have the right to whine when you use someone else's character as your persona and namesake, and go as far as to get upset whenever "your" precious character gets involved in something you don't personally like.
MadDog
4 years, 2 months ago
Try asking, since I'm the one who writes it.

'and go as far as to get upset whenever "your" precious character gets involved in something you don't personally like.'

That takes balls to be that disrespectful.

You do realize- YOU STARTED THIS CRAP when you didn't check with the writer of the stories. YOU CONTINUED THIS CRAP when you snarked on a submission that I don't share my stuff with everyone. I actually share my stuff with anyone polite enough to say please and thank you. Hell, not even that. AND YOU CONTINUED THIS CRAP STILL, HERE, ON THIS ENTRY.

And you wonder why I think you're a douche.
MadDog
4 years, 2 months ago
Not like it's hard Kepora. You check and ask permission.

There's no one TO ask for MadDog, aside from the Walt Disney Co., and believe it or not, I did write them for permission, admittedly when I was setting up TaleSpin Muck. I got no response, which meant they didn't consider the matter worth their time.

Did you ever check with me? NO. And when you found out, you still clung to the idea that Weaselgrease was good enough, since he okayed his characters. That's not how it works. It's utterly disrespectful. You're utterly disrespectful. But even IF it was an oversight, let me explain the proper answer.

"Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know, and had I known I would have checked."

You did NONE of that. That's why I don't like you, and Weaselgrease doesn't much care for your attitude in this crap either.
Kepora
4 years, 2 months ago
At MD again: Y'know, I actually TRIED to contact you in the past concerning the story. Hell, I was proud of it and wanted to show you - linked you to it in everything, all in a Private Message. Apparently it wasn't worth your time then - same as the Disney situation you mention - back on the 29th of October, 2013. I still have it in my PM box - I even asked you for your direct input on it - which you simply ignored. Then you jumped on my case when I used a character that was otherwise safe to assume belonged to Weaselgrease (I mean, he's Weylen's DAD), which you turned out to only half-own - yet you threw a fit over it. You had prior information coming from me that I was trying to work on something, and instead you blew me off - then attacked me. And, ever since then, you've done nothing but attack me, or misconstrue any form of actual criticism as hating/trolling/attacking/whatever. This all stated when YOU came at me like that after essentially blowing me off, which - understandably - didn't exactly make me too eager to try playing nice anymore.

EDIT: Also, for your information: What I said to Rufus here is base don what Weasel told me himself regarding the character crisis that started when you freaked out about the Jarvis thing. So, again, I was under the assumption that they were his - because, from what I picked up from the conversation, that seemed to be the case.

EDIT 2: Also, the ONLY reason it's continuing here is because - instead of ALLOWING this to be discussed maturely in private - you took the easy route and blocked me. So if you're really concerned about it being continued out here, then unblock me here so we can take this to PMs, or contact me on Skype or something.
Weaselgrease
4 years, 2 months ago
Anybody else on the planet might've just said 'Oh, my bad.  Thanks for the info!'
MadDog
4 years, 2 months ago
What you mean is that you didn't ask permission and went ahead and wrote something anyway- and then put it up on Inkbunny. And when caught on it, you claimed that you didn't think the characters were mine and had no way to know.

Contacting me and asking me are two VERY different things, especially if you move ahead and put up a story. What you did was TELL me you wrote a story. Never asked me. I'll quote the text.

'
Hey!
Hey! Weaselgrease adn Buster diected me to you; I love the Weylenverse stories so far. :3 so much, in fact, that I've decided to try expanding upon it myself; I haven't actually written anything outside of RPs in...years, I think, so I'm a little rusty XD despite that, though, I've managed to finish a 1st part/chapter and the start to a second; seeing as you're the original author, I'd like to know if I could get your input!

https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=498801
'

THAT is your post. You did not ask. You posted. Right away, and the proof is in YOUR message. You were utterly presumptuous. So don't even try to suggest that you checked with me before you posted.
MadDog
4 years, 2 months ago
Also no. You're blocked for a reason. Frankly you're a sap to my motivation, and your entitlement sickens me.

Best part is, that story is STILL up, and I believe I told you to take it down.
MadDog
4 years, 2 months ago
'Then you jumped on my case when I used a character that was otherwise safe to assume belonged to Weaselgrease (I mean, he's Weylen's DAD), which you turned out to only half-own -'

Okay. I LOVE this (/sarc) and I'll tell you why. Aside from the clear minimalization that I own the character (and actually, Jarvis is mostly mine. I consulted with WG asking a few questions on how he pictured Weylen's dad, but no, I came up with the char for the most part), you actually have the audacity to state you assumed it belonged to WG, which would be whose fault, to clarify... and when you find out Jarvis is partly mine, you attempt to dismiss my complaint because he's not fully mine.

NO. Fucking no. That is not how it works, and it really shows just how entitled and selfish you are. You do not have the right to use characters without checking for permission, first. Chances are when you asked, WG gave his blanket okay without checking through the characters. Weaselgrease and I have talked about this since, and we have different approaches to it. WG doesn't care if someone uses his chars. I want someone to ask first, to check.

What I have found, interestingly, and more than once, is that people assume that, despite the fact that I WRITE the stories, that the characters must belong to Weaselgrease. And some do. Before I wrote the stories, all WG had was Weylen, Darwyn, and Ichitro. The assistant coach came about as I started to flesh out the story idea and asked him for input. Beyond that, I created the characters. I definitely sought him for input as I created a few. Jarvis is a little bit his, Hex Harris is about half his, the principal came about from an idea that Hammytoy had suggested that I decided to go with. Beyond that, the characters in the story are pretty much mine.

The thing that really gets me about it all, Kepora, is this. When you found out you didn't have my permission, you didn't seek it. You tried to talk about how you didn't think you needed it. You can still see it here. You've never once asked for my permission for this. Not once. Nor would you get it now. You've never once apologized for your presumption. Instead you've defended how you did nothing wrong WHEN YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG.

Do you get it? Does any of this permeate your skull?
MadDog
4 years, 2 months ago
That is quite incorrect. Most every other char aside from those three in the Subject to Change storyline is mine, either fully or partially. Well, aside from assistant coach Weasel.

My advice would be not to claim who owns who if you're not going to show proper research and respect for it. You've shown that lack of respect several times now. I'm not sure if it's deliberate or just based upon ignorance, but frankly neither is better than the other.
MadDog
4 years, 2 months ago
I'll add at least Rufus overextended the credit instead of not giving it. One's far better than the other.
MadDog
4 years, 2 months ago
He's correct. Weylen, Darwyn and Ichitro are all his. =) Thanks for the thought though.
Sirtesio
4 years, 2 months ago
*Squeeze* Ahhh I just want to hug him all over!
Harzipan
4 years, 2 months ago
The world needs more Weylen arts~
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