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NyotaMwuaji

4 years ago

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Futurama is dead though. Howd they loose your respect?

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ NyotaMwuaji

They never did. I love furutama and I will never ruin it with porn. The picture is just a meme.

blackstrike

4 years ago

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@ ZaiksMcKraven

Uh, you got me worried there for a moment, man.

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ blackstrike

Thou I admit I was long hesetating. I thought of a picture of Amy wong and Gunther doing it together. With Amy in her Monkey Suit.

blackstrike

4 years ago

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@ ZaiksMcKraven

That...would be hot! Or Fry with his dog, but in anthro form? The thing is, Futurama, with myriad of aliens, is an excellent ground for some wild stuff, but I guess we'll never know, eh? :)

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ blackstrike

That is the point.
I respect Futurama to much to break the rules of their universe. So no anthro dog and definitely no gay fry. That are absolute no go's.

KevinSnowpaw

4 years ago

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@ ZaiksMcKraven

Futurama is, was, and will forever be, fucking awesome.

Sabbie

4 years ago

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Warner Brothers, Loony Tunes with the Wabbit Season fiasco?

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ Sabbie

No not at all. Actually have never realy seen Warner Bros cartoons. I have always been the Disney dude. So I don't respect Loony Tunes and I don't like it.

JaneThomas

4 years ago

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@ Sabbie

oxo what did they do?

ryuseishin

4 years ago

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Animal Crossing?

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ ryuseishin

Never played it. So no.

Shippo

4 years ago

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Fairly Odd Parents?

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ Shippo

Definitely no respect. And it sort of has been time of my childhood and is absolutely bad by now. But I think the only hot char there would be the babysitter. I don't think that would be enough. Besides I don't like that franchise so much.

Kavukamari

4 years ago

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i resent/reject the idea that porn "ruins childhoods" or "ruins the integrity" of the original

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ Kavukamari

Yeah that is the basic idea of my rule.
I respect artists making something great, with a lot of effort. For example all the disney movies. Sure Robin Hood is great and Maid Mariam is hot. But these respectfull Disney artists put so much effort in their work, that I don't want to ruin their work with porn.

I would only start that, when the franchise ruins itself by its own artists.

Emmisar

4 years ago

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Star Trek ?

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ Emmisar

No no. StarWars fan and never saw Star Treck

JaneThomas

4 years ago

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@ ZaiksMcKraven

You ought to at least watch an episode or two of the original series one of those days :3 the series ran the gamut from incredibly silly to super intense, but it's still really good sci-fi! I'd recommend the episode "The Doomsday Machine" most.

Riverrat

4 years ago

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Sonic the hedgehog?

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ Riverrat

Hell No. As hedgehog I hate this thing. Well actually not, but all this gay porn here, ruined it once and for all to me. Same as Krystal from Starfox.

JhonPerez2000

4 years ago

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Edited 4 years ago by Owner

So, no Arcee from Transformers porn then?

Or R63 Optimus Prime and Megatron? *Insert here trollface*

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ JhonPerez2000

No. But simply because i don't like transformers. And porn with robotics or something like this, is a complete NO GO to me

JhonPerez2000

4 years ago

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@ ZaiksMcKraven

Don't forget all the mechanical details -- too much engineering knowledge required! ;)

MDarrock

4 years ago

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Could this have to do with the Mulan reboot? (Great, now i want some schezuan sauce again)

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ MDarrock

No. I respect Pixney to much to ruin any of their movies!
Besides I am talking about a series.

Lupinetiger

4 years ago

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Thundercats? (I still deny Thundercats Roar is real...)

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ Lupinetiger

never saw this series. So no.

SnowtheBear

4 years ago

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I don't know why but G-Force: Guardians of Space was the first thing that came to mind.

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ SnowtheBear

What? never heard of this.
Or do you mean this hamster movie? Anyways, it's not.

SnowtheBear

4 years ago

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@ ZaiksMcKraven

I forgot about the Hamster movie, never saw that but I don't thinks its related.

This GFORCE was from the 80's, I guess we have a different definition of "old franchise" :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-Force:_Guardians_of_Spa...

Themeanmouse

4 years ago

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Thundercats?

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ Themeanmouse

Nope you are wrong.

MikeyDrago

4 years ago

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Dragon Ball?

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ MikeyDrago

No. To be honest in childhood I didn't like that show. it was to strange in some points. Now as an adult I quite like it. Bot most the dragonball Z Kai series. And super.

But still no because it is not so interesting to me.

Cormenthor

4 years ago

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Okay so 3 guesses, not an american franchise and 23 years old. Let me see here' X, Y and Z all fit the time criteria. None of them are american franchises so they fit your hints.

X= Harry Potter
Y= Gundam
Z= One Piece

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ Cormenthor

Harry Potter. I like that. Do I respect it? hard to answer. But I think yes. There are a lot of good looking girls, but I think art doesn't fit to it. It is a liveaction movie series. But No. I am not interested in drawing that because I don't think the chars are very interesting in a sexual way.

Gundam? Never heard from. So a clear no there.

And One piece? I have seen it a lot in my childhood. Yes I like it and it is a good series. I definitely respected it.. Till water 7.. That was the point the chars just became ugly. I am grown up with the first episode and I know they lost any sense of good looking chars. Rediculus proportions, ugly designs in general and a lot of bullshit moments. The ammount of flashbacks in the series is just hillarious.
Actually I started to dislike One Piece. Thou I like the Zou Arc. What I want to say, you are right. One Piece is the franchise I will try to draw a few pictures of. Now you won the prize. You can decide the first picture.

EtherBunnny41

4 years ago

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@ ZaiksMcKraven

Hunh... the arc that introduced Luffy's Gears is the one that lost your respect. I guess that makes sense. Still, that's a bit off the wall as far as series killing arcs are concerned.

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ EtherBunnny41

It is the design that changed a lot. I mean so far the strangest chars have been Wapol, and Foxy. Still they looked okay. But then they lost their sort of realistic style and went nuts. The gears are... sort of OK. It is this dragonbaal feeling to become stronger just to beat stronger enemys. I mean Crocodile and Flamingo should be sort of the same level. Know what I mean?

Haki is another problem. This ability should be interduced much earlyer in the story. Smoker could have known it. In Alabasta arc it should have appeared. And Shanks with his Haki loosing his arm to a (in relative to his "strength") little fish, doesn't work for me.

The whole series does appear like it has never been planned all way through. A lot of "normal" stuff appeared in later chapters that never appeared in the beginnings thou it is "normal" in this world. Also the design of the characters. After Enies Loby they generaly become ugly and huge. Pika for example would never fittet in the first chapters at all. And sabo has just been interduced because the needed an Ace 2.0. There are so many problems and to me the only thing to save the series would be carrot joining the crew. Because I'm a furry.

I could write so much about things who doesn't work at all in this story..

EtherBunnny41

4 years ago

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@ ZaiksMcKraven

"	ZaiksMcKraven wrote:
	But then they lost their sort of realistic style and went nuts.

The main character is made of rubber. His first mate fights with three swords, one of which he holds in his mouth. I could continue. I think "realism" isn't an issue here, or at least shouldn't be.

"	ZaiksMcKraven wrote:
	I mean Crocodile and Flamingo should be sort of the same level. Know what I mean?

Crocodile beat Luffy handily twice in a row. The only reason Luffy survived the second time was dumb luck from the water he shot at Crocodile coming straight back down on top of him. Beyond that it was a matter of exploiting a weakness. Crocodile couldn't hold his sand form when wet for "reasons". Heck, Enel would've been *stupidly* over-powered against literally anyone else. The only reason Luffy stood a chance against any of them was because he was able to exploit their weaknesses.

"	ZaiksMcKraven wrote:
	Haki is another problem. This ability should be interduced much earlyer in the story.

It's implied Enel had Observation Haki, but they didn't know what it was because of Skypeia's seperation from the rest of the world.

"	ZaiksMcKraven wrote:
	And Shanks with his Haki loosing his arm to a (in relative to his "strength") little fish, doesn't work for me.

You not liking something doesn't disqualify it. He clearly uses Conqueror's Haki against the fish, but it's unfortunately after he loses his arm due to having to make a quick spur-of-the-moment decision. He was caught off guard and couldn't respond in time.

"	ZaiksMcKraven wrote:
	The whole series does appear like it has never been planned all way through.

Considering how characters keep coming back throughout the series, and Shanks using Haki in the first episode shows otherwise.

"	ZaiksMcKraven wrote:
	After Enies Loby they generaly become ugly and huge.

Turns out not everyone can be as pretty as Boa Hancock, Carrot, Pudding, Rob Lucci, or Marco, just was a few examples (all of which are introduced after the Water 7/Enies Lobby arc, btw). World's full of ugly people. Strangely realistic for such an unrealistic series.

"	ZaiksMcKraven wrote:
	Pika for example would never fittet in the first chapters at all.

It's a big world full of strange people. Can't introduce everyone/thing in the first hundred episodes or so, that'd just be a ton of xposition, moreso than it already was.

"	ZaiksMcKraven wrote:
	And sabo has just been interduced because the needed an Ace 2.0.

Y'know he's leading an important revolutionary plot alongside the Wano arc, yeah? Ace would never have led a group like that, he was far too much of a free spirit

"	ZaiksMcKraven wrote:
	There are so many problems and to me the only thing to save the series would be carrot joining the crew. Because I'm a furry.

Can't argue with Carrot being great. Species bias and all that.

"	ZaiksMcKraven wrote:
	I could write so much about things who doesn't work at all in this story..

And I could write so much about why the series works so well.

Darkewulf

4 years ago

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InuYasha? It debuted in November 1996, which means it's still 23 years and a few months old. Quite a few people are quick to bash it, but it's not actually all that bad when you look at the big picture :P

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ Darkewulf

It's solved allready. it's One Piece

Darkewulf

4 years ago

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@ ZaiksMcKraven

whoops. didn't see that.

EtherBunnny41

4 years ago

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So, you view your own art, if pornographic, as disgraceful?

ZaiksMcKraven

4 years ago

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@ EtherBunnny41

Yes of course.
I enjoy porn it is fun to draw and definitely more interesting than an abstract picasso art.

But I am sure that for example Stan Lee would cry at all these respectless gay porn pictures of his beloved characters. Same as Disney. It's not that the porn is wrong. It is more that this fandom steals a character and ignores every character rules applied to this char to draw the personal prefered porn. Best example would be sonic. Where the fuck is the proof he is gay? Or any character in this series? So to me taking a character of a franchise and draw stuff of it is sort of okay. But to break the character and force it into your sexual desire is one step to far. This shows a big disrespect for the creator of the char.

I mean we are furrys. We have characters that represent us. And now comes another artist, doesn't even ask and draws death-gore-vore porn of your sona, because he wants to. Is that something you are okay with? Propably not.

Another example, I would absolutely hate when someone takes Maddy and draws lesbian porn of her. Because that is not Maddy and I feel offended by such an disrespect.

After all I only draw this when I see that the original artist designed his char as a trash character. Or uses them this way. That is the moment I am okay with drawing it. Besides I need to like the char anyways. One piece is treated like trash. Or when did Nami ever mentioned her world map ever again? Or Sanjis All Blue? Choppers dream was what again?

EtherBunnny41

4 years ago

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@ ZaiksMcKraven

You get opular enough, you're gonna attract certain kinds of attention. No matter what you do, someone is going to hate you, and someone is gonna wanna fuck you, by sheer probability. Same goes for your characters. I'd feel super bad if someone hated the characters I made, but I can't do anything to stop that, so why should I? If they were to draw hate art of it, parody anything I'd written with poorly written, poorly characterized crap, that'd feel pretty bad.

... but I can't stop them. At all. I have no control over it. Hell, if I *tried* to stop it, it'd only get *worse*. If you get upset, or inflate your personal self worth to the point where you think you can stop people who have the freedom to draw or write whatever they want, they're just gonna draw or write more of it to spite you. That's how people work. It's best to simply ignore it and move on. Just keep doing whatever you want to do. Life's better that way. Unless you're an asshole of course, but that never stopped anyone before. ;P

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