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RoareyRaccoon

Cub Stuff

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I'm stopping drawing adult-rated cub pictures (I will still draw clean images); I'm not completely comfortable with it and it's never been my thing anyway. I'm not judging anybody or anything, I don't really give a shit what people are into (as long as I'm not being bombarded with it, that is) XP.

In all honesty I'm not a huge fan of drawing porn in general; I've been drawing it for customers and for a laugh here and there (you'll notice that adult pics that I've not been paid to do are usually silly) and I don't mind continuing to draw it either. Not cub stuff though, I don't want to be involved with it anymore. Over time my tolerance for it has been worn down and when I'm seeing cubs being fucked every time I visit IB I feel pretty sick inside. Like I said, not judging anyone who likes it, it's just how it makes me feel.

I've been here before, not wanting to draw cub smut, and I've eventually relaxed on my position again. It comes down to how sick I am of drawing it at the time and how many fans/customers are wanting to see it. I flip-flop around the issue because I don't have any moral qualms with drawings of things that aren't real; just emotional issues with it. As you know, being human, emotions change from time to time and so do opinions. For now though I'd rather not be drawing nsfw pics involving cub characters. Might be permanent, might not.

EDIT: I've removed nsfw cub drawings from my gallery. I'm considering putting together a collection of them for people to download but there'd have to be interest in it.
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Added: 10 years, 10 months ago
 
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TepTepgi
TepTepgi
10 years, 10 months ago
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what will u draw them? o.o
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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What?
TeaPartyRabbit
TeaPartyRabbit
10 years, 10 months ago
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I'm sure he will draw cubs, just not attached to someone's penis.  :)
TheLastGasp
TheLastGasp
10 years, 10 months ago
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Totally fine and understandable. I've waffled some on writing underage. The whole insane obscenity law thing creeps me out more. Hurrah for thought crime. @.@
RedPandaRolo
RedPandaRolo
10 years, 10 months ago
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Mmm, waffles.
WhyteYote
WhyteYote
10 years, 10 months ago
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Probably the most even-keeled explanation I've ever read.  Props and respect!
gnarlybark
gnarlybark
10 years, 10 months ago
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i know how you feel, its why i dont bother posting much on here cause everyone wants nothing but cub art, either cub, sonic, mlp or all mixed together

ive tried giving in and doin whats popular but i just cant do it
Lyserdigi
Lyserdigi
10 years, 10 months ago
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you do what you will to make you feel better ^w^.
Besides, i like you silly and clean stuffs more anyways.
furloverguy84
furloverguy84
10 years, 10 months ago
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You might as well not draw porn period, it's obvious that it makes you feel uncomfortable, if it's cub or otherwise.
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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I don't mind drawing adult porn these days, I'm just not a personal fan of it. Drawing stuff you're not really interested in drawing is going to happen anyway as part of taking commissions.
furloverguy84
furloverguy84
10 years, 10 months ago
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You know you don't HAVE to commission porn you know. Many artists do set up a limit on what they can draw, even for commissions.
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Yes I know, but the nature of doing commissions means that you're drawing what other people want to see, so you're drawing things you don't like anyway, porn or not. I don't dislike drawing adult stuff enough to single it out and stop doing it altogether. The things I draw for money, be it clean or adult, are things I wouldn't draw voluntarily, 99% of the time, because they are not my ideas. If I were to ban adult commissions because I'm not totally keen on them I might as well not do commissions at all. It's very rare that an artist will be commissioned for something they would love to draw; it's a job, not a leisure activity XP.
furloverguy84
furloverguy84
10 years, 10 months ago
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Then why limit yourself, if you're said yourself that you might as well not bother with them, why add these restrictions?! You just draw what other people want to see, regardless of what you're personal preferences are?
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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It's really not complicated. I refuse to draw things that I dislike a lot but if I want to make money drawing art I have to draw things I don't like or I'd never get any commissions. If I'm being paid to draw something for someone then I draw what they want, which is the definition, more or less, of a commission. If I'm not being paid then I'll draw the things I like. Occasionally I'll draw something that I think others will like so I can get a few more watchers or something. Like when I draw Fox McCloud with a boner.

To put it simply, I do what I want to do and I work how I want to work. I don't care if what I will and will not do seems hypocritical or nonsensical at times.
furloverguy84
furloverguy84
10 years, 10 months ago
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So yeah illogical commissions are illogical more or less. :D You just do it for no logical reason, except if money is involved, then there is at least a slight reason as to why.
Foxfan1992
Foxfan1992
10 years, 10 months ago
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I think what Roarey is trying to say in this respect - is that he won't be accepting cub-porn commissions any longer because he's not at all comfortable with it. Adult-porn he isn't really into, but still willing to do it.

By the way, I don't think Roarey is going to stop drawing cubs altogether, just he's only going to be doing clean cub stuff from now on, that's all. Nothing wrong with that :-)
furloverguy84
furloverguy84
10 years, 10 months ago
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Roarey is entitled to his opinion, even though at the end of the day, like most things the logic has been thrown out the window, as is life really.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
10 years, 10 months ago
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He hasn't thrown logic out the window, you just seem to be missing the very simple concept here.

He's willing to draw things he has no personal interest in if someone commissions it, unless the subject causes a significant uncomfortable emotional response in him. His level of emotional response to cub porn shifts over time, and right now it makes him too uncomfortable to ignore, so he's not wanting to do it.

There's no reason for you to be making this seem like it has to be a decision of accept all porn, or reject all porn. He'll draw stuff he wants to draw, or stuff he's indifferent to. He won't draw stuff he just wants to avoid. Why is this so hard to understand?
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Haha, I didn't expect to see you. Thanks for putting the point in plain english XP.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
10 years, 10 months ago
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*hugs*

It's been in plain English from the start, it's not your fault people have so much trouble grasping the simple notion that people can have different likes/dislikes or areas of discomfort without it being some big egregious judgment issue.
furloverguy84
furloverguy84
10 years, 10 months ago
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Yeah, Roarey says he felt uncomfortable with porn period, so WHY draw it at all?! Even for commissions, if he is willing to do that then he is selling himself out, he even admitted to that, and I can understand English perfectly well thank you very much!
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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I explained to you why I still draw adult porn. I'm not a big fan of it but it doesn't make me feel like shit. Cub porn does make me feel like shit, so I don't draw it. Simple.There are degrees of dislike, not just love and hate.
TheAtomicDog
TheAtomicDog
10 years, 10 months ago
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The artist's prerogative, of course.
Kupok
Kupok
10 years, 10 months ago
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That's fine dear. I enjoy everything you see fit to share :)
Ramblo
Ramblo
10 years, 10 months ago
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Sounds fine to me. Draw what you like to draw. But keep posting on IB, purty please ^_^
MaxDeGroot
MaxDeGroot
10 years, 10 months ago
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"Oh, don't worry! They're both adults! They just...um....LOOK young, and are into diapers, that's all."
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
10 years, 10 months ago
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Do what you gotta do, Roarey, and to hell with people who can't understand something as simple as "I just don't want to."
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Lol aye, it's bound to make some people unhappy, particularly people who like buying cubby pr0n from me. I'm not going to feel guilty about it though, there are plenty of talented artists out there who are happy to draw it XP. Nobody is answerable to anyone for their preferences.
furloverguy84
furloverguy84
10 years, 10 months ago
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It's fair enough that you don't want to draw cub related porn anymore, but if porn make you uncomfortable anyway, just quit drawing porn all together. let someone else draw gay guys and their cocks in future for commissions.
furloverguy84
furloverguy84
10 years, 10 months ago
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And with that you'll be glad to hear that I'm done. :D
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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I won't quit drawing porn altogether because I don't want to. There.
CapraKID
CapraKID
10 years, 10 months ago
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I was gonna make a journal like this but I'm so torn on the issue. I don't like drawing it, much like yourself, but whenever I post a non-cub picture, it gets no response. Cub stuff, though? OMG FRONT PAGE MAKE MOAR. I wanna draw pretentious scifi steampunk fantasy bullshit nonsense, not cubs 3:

The only reason I ever started was to whore myself out (metaphorically) for money, because I don't get non-cub commissions and it's annoying that I have to do that for money. I mean, I want to make people happy, but whats the point if it takes my will to draw away?
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Aye it's a conflict every artist who wants to make money from their craft will face. There's so much to consider. The money, your feelings, what kind of reputation you want etc. I don't like the common insinuation that to draw for 'attention' is somehow underhanded and offensively egotistical. Artists wouldn't put their work in public at all if they didn't care about the reaction to it. Creating art is also a desire to have it enjoyed and to benefit from the enjoyment of others. It's a good feeling, a great one even. So artists sometimes draw what their audience likes, to get some more of that lovely, delicious kudos that brightens ones' day. Do it too much though and less of yourself is being put into each drawing, so the life and the fun leaves it and you end up hating it.
SammyStowes
SammyStowes
10 years, 10 months ago
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I'm surprised you haven't gotten burned at the stake by now, even though you're just explaining yourself in a respectable manner XD  
It's honestly a really nice thing to see you make this decision.  I feel a lot of artists fall victim to the whole idea of having to draw cub and other things they don't really wish to just to gain some sort of notoriety. It's a very positive move, and I feel that if anything, instead of people criticizing you for this, they should look up to you for standing by what you love as an artist, despite what the general population on here wants.  Even though I mainly do cub, I also have my restrictions..and yeah, I know it's still cub and a lot of people hate it, but I dunno, some things I'm just not comfortable with, and who is anyone to judge anyone for that.  If it's cub art they want, or any content in general, do what I did and learn to draw it yourself and stop ridiculing others for their artistic decisions.
Anyways, a little off topic, but yeah XD  Good for you for listening to yourself and doing what makes you feel healthier..it's such a simple but lost concept with most people today ^_^  
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Well what tips the scale for me is not just that cub porn isn't my thing but I've been seeing people around the net assuming I'm a pedo because I've drawn cub stuff. As ridiculous a conjecture as that is, I don't want the bullshit. My life has enough problems as it is without hysterical fuckwits on the internet adding to it.
SammyStowes
SammyStowes
10 years, 10 months ago
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Oh Believe me, I know the feeling XD  I can't tell you how many times I've thought about just throwing adult art in general out the window and just doing clean art.  I have a few things left to finish up, but after that I'ma be done with adult Tails stuff.  I don't really like carrying the reputation of being a Tails p0rn artist, I'd much rather be looked at as a fan..  Drawing adult stuff is fun and all, but it's certainly not something I'm proud of.  You won't see me at a furry event with a Sammy Stowes badge because I don't want people seeing me, them my badge, then being like "Its that cub artist, whos probably a pedo" XD  I use FA for clean art, and to be quite honest, I really like not being noticed as a cub porn artist, or an adult artist in general..I mean, I'm not really noticed at all on there lol I could give 2 shits though, I just enjoy drawing XD  
I'm sorry You've had to deal with that shit online..I know at some point, shits gonna catch up to me online too, and at that point, I'm probably gonne be making a very very similar journal XD  Good luck with the cub free art Journey!  Porny Roarey or no porny Roarey, I'm still a fan ^_^
RabidRaccoon
RabidRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Oh dear!  No more naked Tails?  ^^;
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Aye, no more naked Tails XP.
Lando
Lando
10 years, 10 months ago
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Chipmunks are 18 I checked
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Haha, I will still draw clean pics of them XP.
Lando
Lando
10 years, 10 months ago
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smoking=clean
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Yes XP.
Alvin
Alvin
10 years, 10 months ago
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Are they not they about 55 years old now?  
BrokenPupper
BrokenPupper
10 years, 10 months ago
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Funny thing is that they posed as 90-year olds one time.
TravisCoon
TravisCoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Edited 10 years, 10 months ago by Owner
Go with your heart and if cub porn isn't your thing then draw what makes you happy. Either its just cute or tickling with feathers. I don't really like seeing small furry's being raped and just pass them up, but as you said everyone has different thoughts of porn.
ToddRiverden
ToddRiverden
10 years, 10 months ago
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Well, I respect your feelings and think it's all good. :) Glad your speaking your mind and not just pushing yourself to do something your really uncomfortable with. Besides, I like seeing tails in speedo's better anyway in more clean poses, like your picture of Rotor, Ant and Tails. ::hugs::
LazyOrangeCat
LazyOrangeCat
10 years, 10 months ago
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I honestly thought it was just me and Chibitracy that felt that way whenever we see the stuff here XD Well I think anything cute is worth drawing anyway but at the end of the day, it's all just art in the end, the stuffs not real, if people are against it and believe it mind-f*cks you they might as well be saying that violent video games make you kill people. I dont judge people either when it comes to what they like fictionally, no-ones harming anyone o3o
Bahlam
Bahlam
10 years, 10 months ago
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Aah well.  I do like it when you draw silly sex pictures.  
WeaselNip
WeaselNip
10 years, 10 months ago
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Its best to only draw what you are comfortable with. Helps to keep things moving forward.
Alvin
Alvin
10 years, 10 months ago
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Cub or no cub I am still gonna commission / watch you!  Sorry if any of my commissions ever made you feel uncomfortable / like crap, never meant to if i did.  

Please keep up the awesome work!  
KNIFE
KNIFE
10 years, 10 months ago
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I don't care if you draw porn, kiddie or otherwise. (Honestly, I think your non kiddie porn is cuter.)
I just want you to keep drawing and posting here.
I miss your work and miss your streams. Probably my fault for
being on at the wrong time but still..I want the chance to miss it.
AaronCEcton
AaronCEcton
10 years, 10 months ago
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I honestly feel as though I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said here.  To each his or her own, I guess.

I do respect your decision on this matter, though, and will continue to watch your art and commission you in the future.
TheThirdChild
TheThirdChild
10 years, 10 months ago
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I'm starting to feel the same way about cub. It's all I ever see on this website and it's starting to make me feel uncomfortable. There's just no variety here. =(
Sunnynoga
Sunnynoga
10 years, 10 months ago
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I feel you man, i don't hate people who like it but it's tiring to see it everywhere here.
I'm not really fan of drawing porn either, since i'm very picky when it comes to it though.
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Yeah seeing porn all the time occasionally fucks with my head XP. I'm a bit of a pain in the ass when it comes to art anyway, my tastes are so narrow I rarely like a picture. Wish I could enjoy art more sometimes.
KerasLucar
KerasLucar
10 years, 10 months ago
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whatever you want to do is fine, just do some cuddly foxes from time to time. ^^
PantyRanger
PantyRanger
10 years, 10 months ago
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Pfft, I'm still watching you anyways.
Zeikcied
Zeikcied
10 years, 10 months ago
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Well, honestly, I hope you eventually change your stance.  Thanks for what you did draw, of course.

I originally watched you back on FA for your foot stuff, anyway, and I don't think you'll ever stop that. :P
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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Yeahhh wont be stopping that, ever XP.
Zeikcied
Zeikcied
10 years, 10 months ago
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I wonder what your definition of "porn" is.  Would fully-clothed cubs licking each other's feet be considered pornographic enough that you wouldn't draw it?
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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If there's no nudity, arousal or strong sexual overtones then it's okay, but licking feet is a sensual, erotic activity so even though there are no genitalia on display it's still technically porn, lol.
Zeikcied
Zeikcied
10 years, 10 months ago
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Darn.  Okay, just wanted to get an idea of where you draw the line.
Zeikcied
Zeikcied
10 years, 8 months ago
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Oh, what if they have their age labels on?  Would they be okay then? XD
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 8 months ago
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Keen, aren't you? lol XP.
MobiusNesbit
MobiusNesbit
10 years, 10 months ago
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That's your decision, and it's fair enough. I will admit, the front page of Inkbunny in the "popular" section is usually overwhelmingly cub stuff, so there is a bit of a stigma associated with the site.

However, i hope you stick around Inkbunny! I find it's a wonderful site, both for the community and just for how useful and easy to use the site notification features are, and it would be a shame to see a talented artist like you leave. We want a breadth of content, after all.

Either way, best of luck in your future artistic endeavors. It's much better to draw what you like and are comfortable with than to sell your soul.
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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I wont be leaving Inkbunny, it's a very well-made site and I can easily block content that I don't like XP. So yeah, no intention whatsoever to leave here XP.
ZampaPaws
ZampaPaws
10 years, 10 months ago
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As far as the edit, I would be interested. It's not the end of the world if you decide to do this, as I know that it might be difficult to draw stuff like that when you don't feel like it. I have a friend on FA who stopped drawing for a bit because she had some personal problems regarding health. If you don't feel like drawing cub yiff, that is not for others to judge upon, I guess is my point.
NoirEnderfield
NoirEnderfield
10 years, 10 months ago
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well i guess im a wierdo cause i liked it :) .. if you ever do decide to do a downloadable lemme know :)
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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You can find a download link in my latest journal XP.
Teko
Teko
10 years, 10 months ago
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Given the number of cub porn images in your favorites, I think you protest too much.
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
10 years, 10 months ago
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I've just not removed them. The pics I faved are liked for different reasons than the fact that they contain naked cubs or sexual activity. If I was into cub sex there'd be a hell of a lot more pics faved on my page.
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