I think you can as well, but I guess it depends on just how much you hate the idelogy and just how much it means for the other person. For example, I hate nationalism (in the sense of hating other nations (eg. the Nazis), not in the sense of loving your own, I see no harm in that), but I live in a region where it's pretty common, and while I do find it sad that many of my acquaintances and family members eg. hate all Hungarians just because their ancestors' politicians did some not-so-nice things to our ancestors (and the same goes the other way around some years later), I can't really hate them, since they're pretty nice people otherwise. If I _did_ hate them, I probably would live a very sad life.
I think you can as well, but I guess it depends on just how much you hate the idelogy and just how m
One can like whom you wish regardless of their ideology I have a friend who is racist, not hugely or active but I can tell, I still like him even if I don't believe in what he believes in.
One can like whom you wish regardless of their ideology I have a friend who is racist, not hugely or
It's not easy to separate what somebody thinks from the person. It's not an issue like looking past somebody's country or race or sports team. They choose to follow that ideal, and it's something that shapes their wordlview and way of acting. At the least, you can be very dissapointed in them
It's not easy to separate what somebody thinks from the person. It's not an issue like looking past
I agree with the Leezurd. I don't think you can. Their ideology informs their personality and fundamentally affects their worldview. If they believe something twatty, then that means THEY are twatty too.
I agree with the Leezurd. I don't think you can. Their ideology informs their personality and fund
You can make an effort to look past that and try to focus on things you have in common. If they're polite, even have interesting debates to compare worldviews.
But expect lots of fustration, dissapointments, and having to make a concious effort to look the other way
You can make an effort to look past that and try to focus on things you have in common. If they're p
All I can give you is a definite... maybe. It depends on the ideology and the person. There are always people I'll take more bullshit from than others, 'cause they've built up a buffer with me. It's basically a matter of "Is this person worth the frustration?" Conversely, you know you can pull them aside and point out the problems in what they're saying and that they'll at least listen. And even if it is a point of contention, you can sometimes look past it. There's a friend with whom I disagree strongly over a certain controversy (I won't say which it is, but Good Golly I can give you its initials) and while we still disagree, we still talk (although there have been rough patches, and it was close at times).
And like I said, it depends on their ideology. If it's someone I only know vaguely, and they start talking about their supposed superiority or justice warriors or second and third waves or that it's about journalism or why certain people need separate bathrooms or how all lives matter or... I have to think about whether it's worth it to keep this person around. 99% of the time, the answer's no. I don't argue with 'em, I just stop listening. (The Internet makes this so very easy.) I've peeked back on 'em months later, and every time so far it's been the correct decision.
In summary, fuck if I know!
(Also, I ask anyone who disagrees with anything in that second paragraph not to talk about it in this particular journal -- unless it's related to the topic, of course.)
All I can give you is a definite... maybe. It depends on the ideology and the person. There are al
This is one of those things that doesn't have a yes or no answer. Everyone has their own ideas and thoughts and there's not much you can do about it and 9 times out of 10 a person you don't like the ideas of will be either a friend or family member.
This is one of those things that doesn't have a yes or no answer. Everyone has their own ideas and t
Well, as people can be indoctrinated into an ideology from birth, I believe yes you can. As people have the potential of having no choice but to be a part of whatever ideology you may be talking about. I guess in the end it entirely relies on context though.
Well, as people can be indoctrinated into an ideology from birth, I believe yes you can. As people h
I feel when presented with an individual that has had their world view restricted in such a way effort to expose them to what they have missed and been denied should be made available. I have trouble with the idea someone can exercise free will in their choices if they are un informed.
Reason why we should also be willing to hear opposing sides, in case a subject we haven't considered might expand our own knowledge of a contentious situation.
All circumstances are situational. I feel when presented with an individual that has had their worl
I mean i'm sure someone can, Not me, Like if someone chooses to be a republican or a nazi, they don't deserve understanding or love if they willingly follow an ideal that simple wants to hurt people
I mean i'm sure someone can, Not me, Like if someone chooses to be a republican or a nazi, they don'
There will always be implacable opponents out there.
When we do place our lines in the sand and choice what stances we won't abandon under any circumstances, we need to be sure we base those decisions on honest and truthful facts least we allow bias to led us astray.
There will always be implacable opponents out there. When we do place our lines in the sand and cho
I actually met a good churchgoing person, an older gentleman at that, whom was perfectly able to understand that not everybody thought like him. I mean to the point that he said he couldn't watch an episode of his favorite dating show "Baggage" because it was guys looking to hook up.
"I mean, if that's what they need to be happy, I'm happy for them, but I think it's sin, so I just turned it off and I'll watch the next episode tonight"
So yeah, these concepts are quiet possible with a little respect and an understanding that different people understand things different ways
I actually met a good churchgoing person, an older gentleman at that, whom was perfectly able to und
Because you don't agree with a viewpoint held by someone does not mean you should hate them. A lot of the shit that has been hitting the fan in the middle east for centuries has been because of that.
Because you don't agree with a viewpoint held by someone does not mean you should hate them. A lot
Not to disagree that a lot of the problems the middle east have roots within generational old fueds, but the more pressing issue currently is a lack of clean water, food, insufficient infurstruture, and governments that can't control or protect their own territory any more.
Whoever locally has the most guns, water, and food turn into the local leaders. That's why there are some many diffrent groups in what remains of Iraq and Syria.
Not to disagree that a lot of the problems the middle east have roots within generational old fueds,
Absolutely, because frankly most ideologies appear grotesque morally deficient to me. But I accept that most people just aren't that mature, yet. Most are doing their best, and that's admirable.
Absolutely, because frankly most ideologies appear grotesque morally deficient to me. But I accept
Precisely. However there are those who willfully refuse knowledge, at the cost of potential for themselves, others, and society as a whole. This is a sin, and must not be tolerated, because with each acquiescence towards effortless failure, we belittle what it means to be human and rob from our future.
Precisely. However there are those who willfully refuse knowledge, at the cost of potential for the
"I have Christian Friends, I do not like Christianity." Kinda Deal? With me, I am close friends with the maker of Sergals, but I hate Sergals lmao does that count? or is that loving the God and hating the Worshipers?
"I have Christian Friends, I do not like Christianity." Kinda Deal? With me, I am close friends with
Sadly I have not often met many people that really live under the guidance of the gospel of christ. The few that actually do are some of the most inspiring people in my life.
Unfortunately the insitutions and the masses fall short of what good can be found in Christianity.
Sadly I have not often met many people that really live under the guidance of the gospel of christ.
Depends on if that person only identifies as that ideology, but then my experience tells me no, since the moment you two are upset with each other all the holding back you do to not let that ideology get between you is going to come out.
Good to debate, not good for close friendships.
Depends on if that person only identifies as that ideology, but then my experience tells me no, sinc
Yes you can hate an ideology but not the person that believes in it.
But first of all, in my experience everyone saying "hate the sinner not the sin" does so about homosexuality and do not practice what they preach, they hate homosexuals not homosexuality. Just like any time someone says "I'm not homophobic, but..." will follow it with something intensely homophobic, much like anyone saying "I'm not racist, but" is about to be racist and "I'm not sexist, but" is about to be sexist.
The best example of hating an ideology but not its believers would be any scam or con job. For instance the people that romance rich old ladies online with some story about "i am a wealthy American investor in Nigeria and am reaching out over the internet for companionship" then start begging them for money to help them settle some legal issue or other. I for one do not hate the victims of the scam but do hate the ideology and scam-artists behind it.
Another would be the mythology of the NRA, twisting and warping what the constitution says about firearm ownership into a ridiculous parody. Essentially the constitution says "for the purpose of a well regulated militia the right to bear arms shall not be infringed", context and result, but the NRA remove the context. So exactly like if I said "for the purpose of safe roads a driver's license shall be required before a citizen can drive a car"...then someone said "only focus on the last six words, the first part of the sentence isn't important". I certainly hate the NRA's belief, but I don't hate the huge bulk of Americans who were fooled into believing it.
Actually...come to think of it...the belief that it's appropriate to knock on people's door in the early hours of the weekend to preach religion at strangers is one belief I will happily hate. I don't hate the poor sap who thinks it's a good tactic to bug people on their day off and try to sell their religion door-to-door. In fact I find the practice as annoying (and as unsuccessful) as door-to-door salesmanship in general. "Hello sir, would you like to buy a vaccum cleaner? Oh, you don't and you'd just go to the store if you did...yes, I get that a lot." "Hello sir, would you like to buy some Jesus? Oh, you don't and you'd just go to the church if you did...yes, I get that a lot." The belief it's okay to bug strangers at their home, yeah I hate that.
And the often overlooked fact that not all believers believe alike. Sure most christians hate homosexuals, but the rest don't. They are in fact the true christians since one of christianity's core principles is you're only responsible for your own salvation and your impact upon others doesn't count. So hating christianity (the belief) for hating homosexuals is flawed to begin with as not all christians even believe that part of the belief. And not to say christianity isn't the only hate-preaching religion, of course, islam says just the same things and judaism has its anti-gay side too.
I have friends who are political conservatives, I do not agree with many of their political beliefs (though I wouldn't say I hate their beliefs) and yet we are friends and I can like them as people.
On the other paw, we see frequently that belief fueled hate is common. The alt-right's reaction to LGBT people and to non-whites (and the unemployed, blue collar workers, veterans, the elderly and the sick) for example. And the mainstream religious reaction to LGBT people (though there are some cool exceptions to the rule). BUT, for those groups being targeted by hate, their various self defense efforts are not hate. When one side is calling for elimination of the other side, and that side is saying "don't eliminate me, bro"...that's not an equal and opposite reaction. The victims are not as bad as their persecutors.
For the TLDR crowd: 1) I don't hate people for falling for a con job that I hate 2) If I disagree with someone about something that doesn't mean that I hate them
Good question. Yes you can hate an ideology but not the person that believes in it. But first of
NOT possible . my mom used to use the line on me "We don't hate you , just some of the things you do "
in the end i am what i do and think . *Shrugs* i live my life according to my beliefs . My beliefs make me who i am , they differentiate me from others.. soo if you don't like them you don't like me . of course people are a complicated mess of many things. so you could see eye to eye on some stuff . then it gets into a percentage. :P I hate 20% of that person.... so lets say his left foot shin and knee.
i have always disliked the hate the sin and not the sinner saying . Why are people who do things you don't like sinners? Why are people sacred? honestly we are pretty much fungible as far as the universe is concerned.
NOT possible . my mom used to use the line on me "We don't hate you , just some of the things you do
Ideologies can be changed. Love people for who they are and respect their views, but share your own sometimes. We're all in it for the long haul, and the better we can all get along, the better our lives will become. Life's too short to cause problems.
Ideologies can be changed. Love people for who they are and respect their views, but share your own
Honestly? Depends. If somebody is pretty central and their personality allows for them not to be a douche then I think I can budge. If they just believe in the "don't touch me or my shit" sorta thing then yeah I'm cool with that sorta conservative stuff.
If somebody wants to take away my human rights though and believes building a golf course on the reserve is "job creation" instead of violating treaties? Then they can't be trusted because it's obvious they don't think of me as a human.
Honestly? Depends. If somebody is pretty central and their personality allows for them not to be a d
