Bit of a Question by ArcRoyale < Journal | Inkbunny, the Furry Art Community

7 years, 2 months ago

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Unless you know how to program your own website and fill it with content, my friend, I'm sorry, you're looking at a dead end. :(

UniversalMonster

7 years, 2 months ago

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Yeah I wouldn't know any site that would fit that criteria, since most places and people believe that girl butts are inherently sexual.

The making your own site thing could be a fun idea, but that's just me. Also I don't know how google's search filter works, but it could be a shot I guess. I imagine it would be best if the home page, the first thing new people visiting the site would see, would be an easy to understand explanation of what you're doing and why you're doing it.

biscuitz

7 years, 2 months ago

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Sorry to hear that Soup didn't work out for you. The only other option I can think for you to post your work is for you to make an account on Blogger. https://www.blogger.com/

Many artists have created their own blogs when no other website will allow their art to be posted whether it be nsfw or semi sfw and it's relevant enough to stay on Google's radar. Meaning people should have no trouble finding your work if they tried searching for it. If your crusade means that much to you, the least you could do is look into it.

ArcRoyale

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ biscuitz

The ultimate problem with Blogger is that I'm not the one who decides whether something is NSFW or not; Google is. Whereas someone like me would gleefully use girl butts as a humorous item suitable for children like boy butts are, Google... most likely does not feel the same way. As a result, if I posted there, Google would probably deem my posts as NSFW, automatically filter my blog, and we'd be back to square one since my stuff would be invisible to Google Images unless you were outright searching for porn. And, well, there's also a HIGH chance they'll pull a Tumblr and terminate my account altogether, and I kinda own a SFW one there that I don't want to lose...

biscuitz

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ ArcRoyale

You shouldn't be concerned about your account getting terminated. I know people that have blogs that contain nsfw deemed material that were made years ago and are still strong and alive to this very day. But if the semantics really frighten you so much, then you could try putting up a content warning on your blog to put your concerns at ease.

Here's what said warning states if you're curious' "The blog that you are about to view may contain content only suitable for adults. In general, Google does not review nor do we endorse the content of this or any blog. For more information about our content policies, please visit the Blogger Terms of Service."

ArcRoyale

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ biscuitz

Here's the problem with such a filter: The "adult content" that I'm supposed to be protecting kids from? Is no worse than what you'd find on shows kids watch, and was even INTENDED to be an alternative kids can view instead of porn! How am I supposed to convey the message that this is kid-friendly to the kids pure minds if all they see is a big warning saying their kids shouldn't see it?!

locke22

7 years, 2 months ago

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i don't know what else man. sorry. i think blogger might be the only option left. besides the filter is suppose to e a a good thing.

ArcRoyale

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ locke22

Well, like I said, it's hard to provide kids a safe zone to get some funny pictures without worrying about stumbling across porn... when you can only find the pictures if you LOOK for porn! That's the problem I face with any filter; it can take something that, due to years of experience, has been proven to be perfectly acceptable for kids to see... and turn it into something scandalous!

beefalo

7 years, 2 months ago

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Maybe a booru - either an existing one, or your own?

ArcRoyale

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ beefalo

Shit, I'd take a Danbooru equivalent for western cartoons any day; I'm incredibly sick of the only boorus for western toon art being porn stuff or recent stuff. I just don't wanna do that myself since I don't have the time to approve everything nor the money/resources to keep the thing afloat.

JuliusRabbito

7 years, 2 months ago

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what

beefalo

said probably a booru, i was gonna suggest deviant art, but now a days they are becoming NSFW

ArcRoyale

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ JuliusRabbito

DeviantArt has the exact opposite problem as what you think. Despite however sexed up they may become, they always get rid of even non-sexual art of naked kids, even boys that get as naked as they could get on the show.

JuliusRabbito

7 years, 2 months ago

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they do, but only if you say age or people reports it. i have a gallery of works i commission and i am still fine.

ArcRoyale

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ JuliusRabbito

Well, while that solves the OC problem, that doesn't solve the licensed character problem. Everyone knows how old the PPGs and Dee Dee are, and most of my art is of them, alongside other characters whose age is indeed defined as "too young". And there is NO honor system over there just for humorous stuff; even comedic nudes of kids that are still censored will inevitably get reported at some point, and I can vouch for that fact with personal experience. Really, I have no place over at DA, and the fact that I have another identity there with a different handle than this one means having two accounts would look suspicious and could get BOTH banned, and I've been there for so long I REALLY don't wanna lose access to that website, especially since some of my art on DA is ONLY suitable for DA and would get me laughed at anywhere else.

JuliusRabbito

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ ArcRoyale

ofcourse i know that. i once got a request to report something from that cartoon KND and the staff said i could not prove they were underage...lol so idk really. a booru is better

theallseeingeye

7 years, 2 months ago

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deviantart

ArcRoyale

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ theallseeingeye

We've gone over this.

GreenReaper

7 years, 2 months ago

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Edited 7 years, 2 months ago by Owner

Inkbunny was never going to be that place, since we have a tag on every page allowing properly-configured parental control software to block the site. We don't want kids coming here. We host a lot of stuff which is highly inappropriate for kids and we don't want to tempt them to sign up to see what they're missing.

Why are you so keen on getting RL kids to see your human-nudity-oriented artwork? Seems kinda creepy. Especially given recent news. I don't think it's ever going to be feasible to entirely separate "naked kids" from "things requiring kids to be naked". >_>

ArcRoyale

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

Oooh! Is that a Frequently Asked Question? I love Frequently Asked Questions! Their arguments are so easy to destroy since I've already solidified my case the first three times I got 'em!

Well, here's my answer, and pardon me if any of this sounds familiar, cuz I say it OFTEN.
1) All my artwork is the exact same scenarios we find a naked cartoon boy in. The only thing you don't see that you would on a boy are the nipples. What's the difference? To kids, there isn't any.
2) This stuff is all for humor's sake. Female nudity doesn't always have to be sexual, despite what Hollywood will tell you.
3) Given the sheer number of times the media hides naked girls from children even for humor's sake, which would you prefer a young boy see their first naked girl from: A harmless picture on the internet that keeps the privates hidden, their sister in a game of Doctor who he gets a full view of, or a hardcore sex picture because their curiosity got the better of them and it was the first thing that came up when the kid googled "Dee Dee Naked"? And don't say none of the above, that kid's not takin' that answer.
4) The age they'd find it coincides to sex-ed, anyway.
5) Men aren't all horny.
6) A gallery full of cartoon nude girls no more denotes a pedophile than ownership of a baseball bat denotes a domestic abuser.
7) Even if it did, not all pedos like girls. Some like boys, and they're REALLY enjoying all the fresh media they can get.
8) Pedos are either born pedos or become them due to sexual abuse. Cartoon nudity isn't sexual abuse, especially if there's no sex.
9) Inkbunny is also home to transformation fetishists, but you can show that on kids' TV no prob. You can't show funny girl nudity on TV, though, so I gotta put it somewhere and the good sites don't want it.
And finally, my personal favorite:
10) Every loli drawn saves a child from being sexual abused because the lolicon is satisfied with the drawing instead of the flesh.

Have any left?

GreenReaper

7 years, 2 months ago

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Edited 7 years, 2 months ago by Owner

@ ArcRoyale

I think you need to read my question again, as none of the above answers it:

"	Why are you so keen on getting RL kids to see your human-nudity-oriented artwork?

Some kind of mission to save kids from porn? (You're not required to answer, of course.)

I'd expect sex education to cover "the first picture of a human that they see naked". Inkbunny is not a human sex education or "body issues" site. It's a furry art site; much of it is pornographic. Its policies actively discourage people who're looking for art involving naked humans.

[I'm kinda reminded of the ending to Dark City: "you went posting in the wrong place".]

ArcRoyale

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

Well, to be honest, if it weren't for circumstances I probably wouldn't be posting on Inkbunny to begin with. I would rather be spending my time posting stuff on DeviantArt or some other website. I even have a few of my pieces on there through my boss Darkton93. The only reason I don't go to DeviantArt is I'd probably get banned and the artwork would get deleted. After all, we're talking about a website that doesn't even allow young boys to get at the same level of nudity on the cartoon they debuted in; if we can't have that, my stuff doesn't stand a chance even if I DO justify it. Heck, Darkton93 has had some of his stuff deleted despite giving a clear indication that it's mainly for humor!

That's even why I posed the question of an alternative website. And, yes, it is a mission to save kids from porn. That, and most of the scenes I've got bugged me and others as kids growing up. Basically, if it were up to me, I'd just use DA. But I can't, so I need to ask.