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AxleFurret

So GAY now involves STRAIGHT sex. The TRANS-DUMB is getting worse!

Sooo...

Yeah...

Got an actual, heh, "Trans" script for this one.

So many people are quiet on this issue for the fear of being seen as an opinionated asshole or their sterling online reputation with random strangers being hurt, but I call it like it is. I tried the whole "tip-toeing" around the issue, and tried "walking on eggshells", and any other analogies you can think of.

I mean at this point I am damn sure I am repeating myself.

So I continue down the ever narrowing road of my sanity.

I have to put this here, just to document the crazy.

And it is happening more and more... It is coming out of the woodwork and usual pits of the internet and making it slowly into the mainstream.

Apparently the social justice trans-whatever RETARDS, are at it again.

And by "it" I mean being MENTALLY RETARDED.

Along with shit in the online world like "cunt boys" aka FLAT CHESTED WOMEN being labeled "gay" when it involves penis and vagina HETEROSEXUAL INTERCOURSE.

Usually I'm all live and let live but when people start telling me gay now includes straight sex and that "facts are opinion" and "I" am the one in the wrong... Yeah, just something in my mind does a spit-take and a double back-flip and starts screaming "THAT IS THE STUPIDEST SHIT I HAVE HEARD!!!!"

I could post some of the stuff I see and get involved with in places like the real world or reddit or tumblr or 4chan, but in those places, if they are unmoderated usually sanity prevails, but in the furry fandom, yeah no such thing it seems.

This is just ONE thread of a recent response to a simple mislabeling of art as being gay when depicting heterosexual SEX "penis in vagina". (uuugh just having to say Hetero is "penis in vagina" hurts my brain and kills me a little on the inside) They didn't even label it "trans". Makes it a bit hard to use filters and blacklists and such when people are redefining what a word means every 2 seconds. Instead of "Oh, no problem, I didn't think of that" they had to poke the ferret instead.

I mean it doesn't surprise me that these transwhatever people, that don't actually know the definitions of gender and sex, wouldn't know the definition of sexuality either.

The names have been changed to protect the derpish.


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-AxleFurret: It isn't gay when it involves vaginal sex.

-Trans-retard1: It is when the character identifies as male :3 which the characters are both male

-AxleFurret: There is a big difference between "identifying" as male and ACTUALLY physically being male.

This is NOT gay, this is STRAIGHT.

Gay sex does not involve a penis in a vagina.

-Trans-retard: no hun that anal youre confused

-AxleFurret: Are you fucking kidding me?!?! Gay and straight people can have anal sex, that is a POSITION, not a SEXUALITY. A straight guy isn't gay just because he fucks a chick in the butt.

-Sane-person2: love the...female's? body...sexy

-Trans-Retard: Both characters are Male

-Sane-Person2: umm a vagina is a female part also in the description didn't tell me about any gender switches

-Trans-Retard: No " gender switch " the person is male and identifies as male :3 if you are unsure about a gender They/them is a good pronoun to fall back on

-Sane-Person2: um but the one on top is have a VAGINA..that is a FEMALE part....I dunno how else i should tell you this...so it is a male character but on this ONE pic. it drawn with a vagina? because as i said that is a FEMALE part and ONLY a female part...and u didn't tell this in the description so don't expect people react much differently

-Trans-Retard: Trans males have vaginas dude it's not that hard to understand come on XD

-AxleFurret: Says what biology book?

-Trans-Retard: says the book of good morals and repect for others and what they identify as im not going to argue trans rights with people, i am a trans male and many of my followers are trans aswell , if you have different views you may unwatch me :3 regardless of what genitals a person may have if they identify as a male they are a male , thankyou

-AxleFurret: So basically in your little made up dream world it is okay to redefine what GAY actually is.

People like you are the reason more and more ACTUAL gay people are pushing back against this "TQI+-" identity politics crap.

Homosexual means "SAME SEX" not "SAME GENDER"... Sex and gender are two entirely separate things.

What you have here is sex based, meaning a penis in a vagina is STRAIGHT... No matter what special snowflake BS you make up.

And before you pull the whole "you're being offensive" have you thought for a single moment that "redefining" gay to include straight sex is offensive to actual gay people?

Why did you label it gay instead of "trans"? Unless you are actually trying to start shit.

-Trans-Retard: ok sweetie youre opinion is youres to have :3

-SJW-Retard1: 90% of ur gallery is an orange weasel getting buttfucked by tentacles i really don't think u get to decide the validity of anyone's gender or sexuality

-AxleFurret: Just LOL, This is getting so stupid it is hurting my brain.

-AxleFurret: Fact isn't opinion, no matter what your "feels" are. lol

If you can label straight as gay then I can label your gay as straight. ^_^

-Trans-Retard: and i will lable two males as straight if one male identifies as female :)

-AxleFurret: Well at least I know you are insane now, so I bid you adieu.

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After that there were the usual "SJW backups" making baseless personal attacks and such to try and get some sort of response... It was the usual "I must be a lonely ugly virgin with a small dick" type stuff. Seems my assumption of them "trying to start shit" was pretty spot on.

Again, I'm the homophobe and ignorant one. Better tell my husband that gay now involves VAGINAS!

Gawd this shit is becoming so predictable.

And so DUMB!

There are now people that are part of the "Identity Leeches" that have attached themselves to the LGB label as "TQI+-?@#*&%$(@*&$%" and they are now "Reclassifying" GAY to fit their CROSSDRESSING and IDENTITY FETISHES and MENTAL DISORDERS.

They are NORMAL sexuality wise (meaning heterosexual... and "normal" may be pushing it lol) but FEEL they want to be part of some REVOLUTION or MOVEMENT so they leech and leech and leech, here and there, more and more, to the point that in more and more places ACTUAL Gay and Lesbian people are being pushed aside for these fucking identity idiots.

That is right, these people that say they are part of the LGB "community" are now doing all they can to destroy what it even means to be gay, bi, or lesbian.

These trans retards are the same SJWs that bitch anyone out for "appropriating a culture" yet if you call them out on their "appropriations" YOU are suddenly the bad guy.

So you are straight, being a man with a penis and liking women with their vaginas, but you want to be part of the "GAY" community so you say you are a lesbian but have no plans to CUT OFF YOUR DICK!!!... I... DON'T... WHAT THE?!?!?.... WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?!

What the actual fuck?!?!

"Oh? You're gay? How much do love a gay vagina?"

"Oh? You're a lesbian? How much would you like to have my big lesbian dick inside you?"

"Oh, you are a straight male? Well how much do you like this straight female cock in your ass?"

We got "straight" men (with a peen) pretending to be "lesbian" women, and the LGB community seems totally okay with this. So all you lesbos must be okay with peen now according to these trans-whatevers... Or else you are being "HOMOPHOBIC"!

And we got "straight" women (with a vagoo) pretending to be "gay" men, and the LGB community seems totally okay with this. So all you buttfucking faggots must be okay with the vagoo... Or else you are being "HOMOPHOBIC"!

I mean these trans-tards seem to be the experts in everything sexuality and biology, what with not even understanding the basic definitions of sexuality and biology... But what the hell do I know as an actual gay male that went to college before the SJWs apparently took over, huh?

Anyway, I know I'm repeating some things here. But it's my journal and twatter has a 130 character limit, so yeah. *chuckles*

I never thought I would consider putting myself in a room with padded walls being a way to protect my sanity...

But the dumb...

The dumb is getting to me.

So much dumb and not enough people fighting back against the dumb.

I don't know how much more of the dumb I can handle before I put on a black leather straitjacket for non-sexual purposes.



Though I do have a serious question or two for all you fuzzies out there:

Has the furry fandom, and society in general, become a metric shit ton dumber in the last 10 years?

And is furry even furry anymore? The last furry party I went to had more non-furry fetishists and fans than it had actual furries.
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MaxDeGroot
7 years, 3 months ago
I'm done trying to figure out what anyone means when it comes to this. I simply say live and let live. Don't make your problems mine. If you look male, expect me to call you "he" and if you look female, expect me to call you "she". If you get up in my face about it, you are making your problems mine. I might, MIGHT mind you, acquiesce and use the pronoun "they", but no further, and I will trip up. But please don't expect me to keep a database in my brain to determine which pronoun to use with who. That's YOUR problem, don't make it mine.
AxleFurret
7 years, 3 months ago
On no... It is your problem!

It is your fault if a guy that dresses and acts and talks like a guy, but identifies as a female, you are being the oppressive "shitlord" when you "misgender" him and accidentally call him a he instead of a she. (I've actually had this happen with more than one person on more than one occasion back in the days when I was actually trying to play along with these people's mental disorders.)

There is no "live and let live" or "shrugging it off" with these people... They will make it known when you fuck up their self delusions.
MaxDeGroot
7 years, 3 months ago
Oh, believe me, I know. I don't play their game anymore. I'm done. I give as good as I get with them.
ThaPig
7 years, 3 months ago
You know this reminds of the nutjobs who get into the Facebook page of real Egyptologists and post the usual "aliens built the pyramids" bullshit, then when the scholar politely debunks their delusions with actual archeological facts they throw a tantrum and accuse everyone of being part of an evil conspiracy.
AxleFurret
7 years, 3 months ago
Oh yeah, I see that kind of shit all the time... Especially if you show evidence or proof that goes against the 100% human caused global/climate change nut-jobs.

Even better... Those "chem-trails" whackos! It's a condensation trail you morons, contrail not chemtrail! Oy vey!

And these are usually people with no background in what they are talking about but because they "saw a story on the intarwebs" so it must be true.
SugarRush
7 years, 3 months ago
A lot of the problem is how this 'type' of 'person' seems to absolutely refuse to acknowledge the fact that, as you stated, gender and sex ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I don't care what someone wants to 'identify as'. What I do take offense to is being FORCED to not even acknowledge a person's physical, biological sex. I'm not putting down your gender identity when I say 'he'. I'm stating a fact that you have a penis.

That being said, yes the fandom has become dumber, in my opinion. Any group does the larger it gets. The increasing number of younger members doesn't help, I'm sure, and the lines seem to be blurring between LGBT, various groups, and furry.
AxleFurret
7 years, 3 months ago
"I don't care what someone wants to 'identify as'. What I do take offense to is being FORCED to not even acknowledge a person's physical, biological sex. I'm not putting down your gender identity when I say 'he'. I'm stating a fact that you have a penis."

This! SO MUCH! *hugs*

"Oh? Well how would you know?!?!" Umm, you have a square face and an adam's apple and can pee standing up, no amount of dressing like and acting like a stereotypical female gets rid of that.

How have people forgotten (or more likely never learned) the difference between sex and gender?... This was Biology and Psychology and even Sociology 101 level stuff when I was in high school and community college.

It doesn't help that furry seems hostile or uninviting to anyone over 30 years old. I had someone call me a "greymuzzle" a while back and I'm not even in my mid 30s yet... So a lot of these "new" furs have little to no exposure to any of us in the so called "old guard". So now we are getting people into furry that aren't even furries, they just see it as another "geek gathering".
Novus6
7 years, 2 months ago
" SugarRush wrote:
I don't care what someone wants to 'identify as'. What I do take offense to is being FORCED to not even acknowledge a person's physical, biological sex. I'm not putting down your gender identity when I say 'he'. I'm stating a fact that you have a penis.


The thing is, "He" doesn't need to refer to biological sex. Biological sex is not meant to be completely disregarded, but it doesn't need to influence every aspect of how someone is treated or how they're referred to. It doesn't make sense to reject the idea of referring to someone as "she" even if they're biologically male, because it's harmless.
Novus6
7 years, 2 months ago
Don't want to bug you again, but I don't like seeing this strange understanding of gender and not saying anything about it.

It would make no sense to NOT acknowledge the difference between gender and sex. Your sex is your biological characteristics. Your gender is your psychological identification. I have yet to see anyone with a view other than this, and believing that your psychological makeup magically means that, for example, you are physically female because you identify as female is nothing but a delusion.

What confuses me is when people think that sex decides what people should be referred to as. Psychological identification is more important in most aspects of life. When does sex matter? When it comes to medical treatment or finding a sexual partner. That's it. Sure, your sex will also determine your outward appearance, but that does not have to be that case (Which is part of why trans people usually opt to take hormones, which change secondary sex characteristics)

I know what you're going to say: "Psychological gender is nothing but a fantasy so it shouldn't have any bearing on how people are treated!"

Why even make the distinction between sex and gender if this is what you believe? If gender in the psychological sense were a fantasy, there would be no such thing as gender. If there were no distinction, there would be no people identifying as a gender that does not match their sex in the first place.

It's fine if your definition of "gay" only refers to sex, meaning that sex with anyone with a vagina cannot be classified as gay sex. This view makes sense because sex does matter when it comes to sexual attraction. Some people simply aren't attracted to certain genitals. Physical characteristics matter with certain things and I'm sorry if some people believe you should be forced to ignore them.

But the idea of "penis = man and vagina = woman" is flawed. Why? Psychological identity is a legitimate thing and is more than "fantasy role play" or "a disorder".

Of course, you're going to say that I can't prove this. But, consider that psychological science is not as cut and dry as other types of science. Nothing you say can be definitively proven one way or the other at the time, neither can what I say (Though I do have personal experience, being a trans person myself)

Nonetheless, what you think about trans people and gender is clearly influenced by SJWs and generally the most annoying types of people who advocate for LGBT rights. These types of people have massively damaged the reputation of all sorts of LGBT people, and only contribute to the belief of trans people being "insane" in whatever way.

Hell, I am trans, and if people accidentally call me by my old name or anything I don't correct them or even visibly react. I just don't care enough to make a big deal out of it. They usually realize their mistake a few seconds later, anyways. I don't make a big deal out of things like some trans people might. My point is, not every trans person or supporter of trans people freaks out at small things or acts in a way that might get them labeled as a "SJW".
AxleFurret
7 years, 2 months ago
Oh gawd it is you again!

Well I have nothing better to do right now than argue with an insane person and most likely repeat myself, so here goes.

You already said you want HOMOSEXUAL sex to include penis in vagina penetration.

Strange understanding of gender? WTFROFLOL!!!

My "strange" understanding of gender is the textbook Biological, Sociological, and Medical!

My gawd another crazy post!

Do you even read the shit you type up? It's like riding on a bipolar rollercoaster... One part you are for a thing, then against it, then for it again.

You say something like "It would make no sense to NOT acknowledge the difference between gender and sex. Your sex is your biological characteristics. Your gender is your psychological identification. I have yet to see anyone with a view other than this, and believing that your psychological makeup magically means that, for example, you are physically female because you identify as female is nothing but a delusion. "

Then you say this: "But the idea of "penis = man and vagina = woman" is flawed. Why? Psychological identity is a legitimate thing and is more than "fantasy role play" or "a disorder". "

NO ONE CAN KNOW YOUR "PSYCHOLOGICAL IDENTITY" UNLESS YOU TELL THEM!! And even then it is not something that can be measured scientifically, because people can say anything they want and act any way they want. This is why, even in basic psychology classes, they mention that psychology isn't always a "hard science" more than a "subject area", and can be studied scientifically or non-scientifically. But I'm not going to get into that right now.

You are so delusional, that you contradict yourself in nearly every post you make on here.

"MY definition of gay"? It is not "MY" definition of gay, it is "THE" definition of gay/homosexual.

HOMOSEXUAL: Attracted to the SAME SEX.

It has NOTHING to do with gender!

In the gay side of things, I really don't care about gender, I like masculine guys and feminine guys both. I'm GAY, HOMOSEXUAL, I'm attracted to the male SEX, as long as they got a real penis, and a nice ass, and no tits, I'm good! ^_^

This means I have no "gender" orientation, but I do have a "sexual" orientation.

Lately I have been seeing more transgender snowflakes LIKE YOU trying to redefine "gay" sex to include heterosexual sex because they are just straight people wanting to be part of some movement or revolution or whatnot. GET OFF IT!

Even had multiple women call me "homophobic" when I told them that no matter how much a she pretends to be a gay man, it doesn't make it so.

"Feelings" do not overrule "Facts".
Novus6
7 years, 2 months ago
I don't think you understood what I mean when I say that there is an important distinction between gender and sex, but that having a penis does automatically equal "man", etc. I mean that the definition of "man" or "woman" can refer to EITHER biological characteristics or gender identity. In some areas, only sex should be taken into account, in other areas only gender should be taken into account.

"This means I have no "gender" orientation, but I do have a "sexual" orientation."

This is what I mean when I say that physical features do matter in sexual attraction for many people. For some, unlike in your case, romantic attraction matters more and physical sex becomes less relevant, that is why some people take gender into account rather than sex when it comes to who they can be attracted to.

"LOL I can't wait till they start allowing Trans-women into professional sports or women's prisons, it is going to be hilarious!"

It wouldn't make sense to let trans women be in women's prisons or participate in women's sports due to certain physical differences - but if these trans women were to have HRT and surgery, and their physical capabilities didn't surpass those of the other women then it would be fine.

"NO ONE CAN KNOW YOUR "PSYCHOLOGICAL IDENTITY" UNLESS YOU TELL THEM!!"

... What? I never said anyone could. Trans people have to let others know their identity if they want to be recognized by it. Are you misreading things?
Novus6
7 years, 2 months ago
Even though things such as gender identity cannot be scientifically measured, there is no harm in treating someone in accordance with their identity unless it's a matter which exclusively deals with physical sex. What makes you think it is such a problem?

Doing so is not "normalizing insanity" because no sane person would actually identify as an inanimate object. Gender is a matter of what you intuitively know yourself as and it is within the confines of the human mind. Someone's mind may be male, female, some sort of combination of both, or a simple lack of a gender alltogether. That's all that exists in terms of gender, the "attack helicopter" shit is a joke.

There is no reason that "he" must always refer to those with a penis and "she" must always refer to those with a vagina. If you disagree, please explain without ranting and raving about how "insane" you think I am just because we have different ways of thinking. You're creating an echo chamber of your own thoughts here if you discount what I have to say as somehow being lesser to what you say. Of course you don't want to let what you think budge at all, that's only natural, but it's unhealthy.

You go on and on about definitions, yet fail to realize that some definitions are capable of changing and are often stuck in the past. Things can be outdated even before it's widely realized that they are, you realize that, right? This primarily applies to definitions that have anything to do with psychology or anything that isn't a hard science.

The things I write might seen disorganized or contradictory sometimes because I'm not meticulously typing out everything I'm actually thinking. Many thoughts go unsaid and some things I say could be misinterpreted because I write them in such a way that only I have a full understanding of what I meant.
AxleFurret
7 years, 2 months ago
As much as everyone wants to be friends with everyone else and avoid conflict and differing opinions these days, at some point one has to admit that no matter how much you call a vagina a penis it will not actually make it an actual penis, and no matter how much you call a penis a vagina it will not make it an actual vagina, unless they genitally mutilate themselves.

Advocates for genital mutilation.

Bruce Jenner is a dude in a dress... And he makes a hideous woman... "REAL" Women should be pissed.

And so many of these "transgenders" throw actual transsexuals and intersex people under the bus for their snowflake SJW bullshit.

LOL I can't wait till they start allowing Trans-women into professional sports or women's prisons, it is going to be hilarious! And "REAL" women are gonna be pissed! And I wonder what would happen to a trans-man in prison, especially when the hormones wear off?

No matter how much a woman pretends to be a guy, she is not one. No matter how much a guy pretends to be a woman he is not one. No matter how much a person pretends to be an attack-helicopter/elephant/chipmunk/pepperoni pizza, they are not one!

To say otherwise is to normalize insanity!

For a male with a penis to say he is a woman with a vagina, while not actually having said vagina, is just as fucking batshit insane as a person saying they believe they are an attack helicopter, or an other-kin, or freaking Napoleon Bonaparte reincarnated.

The fact snowflakes and genderspecials need everyone to play along with their feelings based worldview shows the fragility of their so-called identity to begin with.
Novus6
7 years, 2 months ago
"For a male with a penis to say he is a woman with a vagina, while not actually having said vagina, is just as fucking batshit insane"

You're missing the entire point here. Let me spell it out for you.

If someone said they had a vagina without having a vagina, that would be a delusion.
If someone has a penis but identifies as a woman, it just means that they have a gender that differs from their sex.
Identifying as a woman does not mean you believe you have a vagina. It just usually means that you WANT a vagina.

Where are you getting these ideas? All I can say is: what the fuck?

"And so many of these "transgenders" throw actual transsexuals and intersex people under the bus for their snowflake SJW bullshit."

Being transgender has nothing to do with the SJW culture. Unfortunately people associate SJWs with this type of thing which damages it's reputation and makes people automatically assume things. This is why I despise SJWs, they're doing harm to the very things they try to advocate for.

There is no difference between a transgender and transexual person other than that transexuals have had hormones or surgery while transgender people have not. Does that mean, in your eyes, if someone doesn't have the money to get surgery/hormones or doesn't want to for personal reasons it means that they are less of a "real" trans person?
AxleFurret
7 years, 2 months ago
You are being an SJW no matter how much you say you aren't, you are trying to push a stupid movement and normalize your own insanity, and change long standing definitions to suit said insanity. You have convinced yourself that you are right no matter what to the point you even admit there is no medical or scientific basis of proof and then go on to blah blah about psuedo-science shit like "body maps".

"Feelings" do not overrule "Facts".

You constantly contradict yourself which makes me think you must have more than just one mental disorder or delusion going on. You don't even notice how often you repeat yourself, now in 2 of my journals.

For the last time, gender is the societal scale, basically rating system, on how MASCULINE or FEMININE someone, some action, or something is. Gender is NOT Male and Female, it is often confused for it yes, it is MASCULINE and FEMININE. And the idea of what is masculine and Feminine can change from person to person and place to place. So just the term "transgender" means nothing more than "play-acting", your SEX is still male or female you just want to ACT like what you believe the other side acts based on societal gender roles and stereotypes.

For the last time, SEX is your MALE or FEMALE BIOLOGY.

For all the talk about "DESTROYING THE GENDER NORMS" why is it that the first thing a sexually male person that wants to be a woman does is throw on a fucking dress and ladies wig and act like a stereotypical woman? Or a woman getting a masculine haircut, binding her breasts, and dressing stereotypically masculine? LOL

When you say:
"There is no difference between a transgender and transexual person other than that transexuals have had hormones or surgery while transgender people have not. Does that mean, in your eyes, if someone doesn't have the money to get surgery/hormones or doesn't want to for personal reasons it means that they are less of a "real" trans person?"

My answer is FUCKING YES!

And what you said is the perfect example of throwing transsexual people under the bus! This separate but equal identity bullshit.

A transsexual ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH WITH IT! They have Irreversibly MUTILATED and DESTROYED their body to become the thing they want to become. They still aren't that thing biologically, and I still say they have a serious mental problem.

But I don't have any transsexuals coming to me and trying to tell me gay sex involves vaginal penetration, I don't have transsexuals telling me that if my husband puts on a dress and acts like a female that now we are STRAIGHT, I don't have transsexuals yelling at me because I mis-gendered them when they forgot to "throw their tits on today".

A transgender is just a CROSS DRESSER or TRANSVESTITE that doesn't want to admit they want to keep their biological sex while getting to prance around like a pretty princess or manly man in public till they eventually "GROW OUT OF THE FAD".

Like you have mentioned, you know you are a female with a vagina, but you want to dress and act like a man without doing surgery yet. That means you are a woman in masculine clothing ACTING masculine.

You are a crossdresser or transvestite or "tomboy". I have no problem with that.

You say you like other women with vaginas, that makes you a lesbian, a masculine lesbian. I have no problem with that.

I can even understand if you are insecure about being a masculine lesbian, just like gay guys that say they are straight to avoid the stereotypes.

But this whole transgender thing is just like the story of "The Emperor’s New Clothes" and trying to get people to believe you are something you obviously are not:

I have a problem when the naked Emperor walks down the street and tries to make people believe he is wearing clothes, when he, most certainly, is NOT, and all the people are too afraid to call him out on it for fear of being labeled as stupid or getting sent to the dungeon.

I'm the kid in the crowd pointing out that the Emperor is actually naked.
Novus6
7 years, 2 months ago
I'm not here to discuss my personal attributes, I'm here to let you know that you have no idea what gender identity actually is. To address you thinking that I'm somehow "insane", I already said this:

"The things I write might seen disorganized or contradictory sometimes because I'm not meticulously typing out everything I'm actually thinking. Many thoughts go unsaid and some things I say could be misinterpreted because I write them in such a way that only I have a full understanding of what I meant."

I don't have any kind of mental disorder that would make me subject to delusions. The only things I have are mild Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Aspergers, which is irrelevant to this discussion, but for some reason you are overly interested in my mental health when I have done nothing that should cause questioning towards it.

If I wanted to I could personally attack you using numerous examples of what you say or how you say them - at the very least I'd say you have some anger management issues. But no, I haven't been doing that as you have, because it just isn't productive.

I'm fucking laughing at the accusation of "repeating myself" when the only reason I need to repeat anything is because of how seemingly impossible it is for you even try to understand what I say. Every time you make a new post, you are repeating yourself no less than I am, using the same reiterations of the same belief that psychological gender isn't important just because it's in a scientific gray area. Just about every single thing you say has already been addressed by previous posts of mine, and until you can get the idea that I'm "insane" out of your head I can't do anything to change your mindset.

Gender is a psychological identification and has nothing to do with gender roles/stereotypes, that is separate. Your understanding of trans people is flawed mainly because you don't make the distinction between identity and gender stereotypes. If there were no difference, all masculine women would be transgender males. Masculinity does not = having a male identity. Identity is more of an abstract concept, but basically is whatever someone intuitively knows themselves as/is most comfortable with.
AxleFurret
7 years, 2 months ago
Well then we just need to "agree to disagree" then.

You don't understand me, facts, dictionary definitions, medical proof, sociology, or even basic biology.

And I don't understand your "feelings" or made up "re-definitions".

You DON'T have a mental disorder but then you immediately mention you have anxiety and autism, also known as mental disorders!

*falls over laughing*.

I had a feeling I was arguing with an aspie.

LOL Should I suddenly feel bad about all this? Oh wait you'd actually answer that, sorry, the answer is NO.

Anyways I'm done, you are driving me crazy with your crazy.

At least I'm agreeing to disagree.

So we agree to disagree and move on.

So cheers, and have a nice day.
Novus6
7 years, 2 months ago
I didn't say I didn't have a mental disorder, I said I didn't have one that would cause delusions. No disorder I have is relevant to the discussion. Nor do they discredit anything I say.
AxleFurret
7 years, 2 months ago
" Novus6 wrote:
I didn't say I didn't have a mental disorder, I said I didn't have one that would cause delusions. No disorder I have is relevant to the discussion. Nor do they discredit anything I say.


They don't need to discredit anything, you do that quite well all by yourself. ^_^
Roketsune
7 years, 2 months ago
Most of this comes off as poorly structured fulmination rather than adroit polemics, but what I did get was you encountered the gender identity trumps physicality argument. This reminds me of when I investigated Dragonfruit and its various constituent entities such as Bad Dragon last summer. A charge that was repeatedly leveled at Varka and Dragonfruit/Bad Dragon was transphobia, over an incident on some video website Varka owns which is centered on toy usage (a convenient side operation given Bad Dragon's business). I reviewed the evidence.

What happened was, some hairy person with breasts and a vagina who evidently identifies as male and is on hormones was categorizing his videos as Male, Varka gently recategorized them as "transgender" after a series of complaints, and the accuser went apeshit. Most people looking for either male or female stuff are not going to want to see his videos regardless of their sexual orientation and it rightfully belongs in Intersex/Transgender and arguably Female, but this person believed their gender identity should be the paramount consideration when using a system which inherently is exclusively concerned with physicality because that is the nature of traditional sexual orientations. Oh, yeah, he's a transgender porn performer but accused Varka of fetishizing and demonizing trans people. Yeah.

And that accusation was repeated many times before. I have no idea how many of them even looked at the evidence that buffoon himself provided before reblogging it. I ruled Varka innocent and ridiculed the accuser. I should have pointed him to my entry and stressed that I am a genderqueer transgender femboy and found him insufferably moronic, since it would have pissed him off double. Most of the other shit they were accused of I confirmed and they're overall shitty and incompetent people, but that one was a very easy innocent verdict.
AxleFurret
6 years, 11 months ago
I've been seeing more and more "gay porn" sites getting titties and vaginas in them because said titties and vagina are categorizing themselves as "gay males" more and more.

And "genderqueer transgender femboy"... The fuck is that? You are a "gender strange-opposite gender from biological sex-gender gender?"
OtterComrade
6 years, 11 months ago
These people (i.e. the 'mainstream' 'transgenders') are doing serious damage to themselves and those truly confused about their gender identity. There are two genders only. 'Gender change' operation is a fraud, since men cannot be given a real, functional womb to birth children nor can their chromosomes be changed. All they do is mutilate themselves either because they truly believe they can become women (delusion) or they were lied to to make them believe it and to exploit them financially. It is especially off-putting when young people are targeted by these propagandists who confuse them into accepting this.
AxleFurret
6 years, 11 months ago
The young person thing is the most scary.

I see stories all the time about parents pushing hormone therapy and such for kids that HAVEN'T EVEN HIT PUBERTY YET!

Flooding a growing boy with female hormones or a growing girl with male hormones will fuck them up FOR LIFE! The human body and brain keep devloping well into the MID-TWENTIES. And they are doing this all for something that is as much of a "phase" as anything else kids go through, just so their narcissistic parents can brag about having a "special minority" child.

Wanting to genitally mutilate yourself is one thing, but wanting to fuck up and genitally mutilate children is no better than the Muslims that genitally mutilate their own kids and women.

I mean it is one thing to fuck up yourself, it is completely different to fuck up a kid that doesn't know any better. And it robs these kids of ever having a normal sexuality and sex life. I have yet to see a FTM or MTF operation that is convincing, let alone actually function, and even then it is all still a lie. Hell, many of the few that actually go through with it immediately regret it and see no actual improvement to their lives, often getting worse depression and committing suicide.

And as you can see they LOVE to use psuedo-hippie-bullshit "science" to convince themselves they don't have a mental problem. I think the newest one is "brain/body maps" based off the widely discredited "Phrenology" (I think one of these people here or in another journal mentions this as if it was medical fact). Going along with their "Take the old thing and rename it to a new thing, and hope no one notices" like how the non-genital mutilation "transgenders" get pissed at being called "transvestites and crossdressers".
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