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AlexHusky47

I wanna ask you guys a question.

Now I know this journal won't get very many views, but I want ask you guys a question. Do you guys think that the hate on "Cub Porn" is a double standard?

If you ask me I would say "Yes definately".

My supporting arguments is the fact that there are dozens of other fetishes out there that make people feel uncomfortable however that's what we have blacklists for if you don't like it don't look at it.
However that shit isn't good enough. My question is "If you can't tell the difference between fact and fiction then what the fuck are you doing on these types of websites?" It makes as much sense as arresting someone in real life for killing someone on Xbox live.

If you use the logic "Cub Porn promotes pedophilia" argument then it automatically applies to other fetishes
(To be honest I don't believe this bullshit logic I'm ok with your fetishes I'm just using these as examples.)
-Gore/Snuff = You're a serial killer and/or a sadist IRL.
-Scat = You like playing with and/or eating shit IRL.
-Feral = You're an animal fucker IRL.
I'm NOT saying you should start directing your hate towards these communities.
My point is that "If you don't like a certain fetish in the furry fandom do 1 of 2 things
1: use your blacklist, don't look at it, and leave those communities alone.
2: If you can't tell the difference between fact or fiction and whine about the content then
GTFO.

Also let me ask you this "Don't you guys think that it's just a little unfair that the cub community suffer for this?"




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Added: 7 years, 4 months ago
 
TylerTheElephant
7 years, 4 months ago
One problem with a lot of people is that they wanna be little internet heroes and take down the "criminals" like us. Instead of thinking "I don't like cub porn and I think it promotes pedophilia IRL, so I'm gonna blacklist it and stay away because I don't wanna be associated." they think something like this: "These furry cub porn guys are real pedophiles and instead of ignoring it, we have to fight to take them down and make the internet a safer place!" These fuckers just wanna be their own band of internet cops to feel like they're important for 5 minutes because they have nothing better going on in their pathetic lives. They're just too ignorant and stupid to realize that we're not going after kids IRL or getting off to real child porn.

And again, if any cub porn fans like myself see this, don't be ashamed because you're doing nothing wrong or illegal. Like in the journal above, I'm just using this as an example of how these idiots think.
AlexHusky47
7 years, 4 months ago
What's funny they have an inept way of arguing.
Their ace in the hole is "think about in the future when the government cracks down on this". I also think cub artists shouldn't go inactive or delete their accounts because of these fuckwits that just gives them more power and turns the argument in their favor. Deleting your account or going inactive means you're letting these trolls win.
Mimirchan
7 years, 4 months ago
Let me ask you something. I chose to draw because I'm inspired by someone in palcomix that make me interested drawing cub porn. I know I check if is illegal to draw those but I realize there is no law in the usa, so u don't recommend is "pedophilia" is still for me "anthro porn". I chose to make a second personality so the other guy couldn't get in trouble but if he dose well is game over now. Sometimes ever month since a guy told me that I'm a sick fuck and it triggers me so I cry of what I'm thinking. But I realize I'm just going to say that " I don't give a fuck what everyone says. If everyone love my art work, then I keep going". I'll keep going till I'll retire of drawing cub porn. Mimirin94 is not ashamed  of everything, because these trolls , these fuckers are not the law. Again I'm am not ashamed and don't think myself as a pedophile, I'm a cub artist who just draw for everyone to enjoy and trust that jbyong100 said that " people wanna be heroes" if wanna be a hero " BE FUCKING HERO IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD BECAUSE WHAT THERE LOSERS THAT THEY COULDN'T DO TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD AND I'M EMBARRASS TO THEM BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T DO  BETTER AND SECOND THERE NOT IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY HAVE BALLS and reality there just asshole nothing and are not afraid but that's alright because In the internet world you couldn't get touch because there a bunch of pussies, so let's think of them as pussies who was vaginas.

That's my comment
AlexHusky47
7 years, 4 months ago
Exactly. These trolls think they're the law, and I think that once they have cub Porn banned (If that ever happens) I believe they might go after other fetishes that they personally don't like. It sucks that happened to you it's bullshit how this phony war on cub Porn exists. I guess it all started in 2010 with the cub ban on Furaffinity.
GFHCDK76
7 years, 3 months ago
This is just one of many things others can and will complain about. If one is not complaining about gays, or goths, or emos, or preppies, or others of another color, or even as you stated many of the multi fetishes, they must feel they got to be doing something about it all.

At least complaining is what they got. It be more horrible if they could change or take away from others whatever they wished.

I have seen a debate (if you can call it that) on the development of sex bots. There is a large number of discussions on that subject alone.

On a side note to the sex bot thing, one related to this talk on cub porn, a little: One had the idea of creating cub sex bots. I personally like this idea for one real big reason. It would let one partake in their given fetish, without any involvement with another person.

Just the idea that if said person was indeed a pedo, that person could have something to use, without feeling any need to go after any kids. It would help sedate, or even hamper that kind of crime some, or even by a lot.

To me, if it is something that will help lower, or remove such a crime of going after kids for sex, I don't see why not make cub, or even kid sex bots, and let the pervs have go with them, instead of the real thing.

There is the other thing to consider with the development of any type of sex bot, and that is the new research on the developmental of living bio bots. This would involve a mix of, the mixing of DNA, and the use of bio printers to make a living body. One that may even be controlled via a PC of sorts. Tis would be in the realm of cyborgs.

Could you imagine, with what is done in art by people now, having the ability to one day make such things as living play bed servants?  No matter what they may look like? It is not all that fiction now, not with what is known that can be done. It is just a matter of time till we find out how to do it well, with fewer mistakes, but it is not so much fiction anymore.

Now this talk of some simple cub porn does not seem like such a big deal, not with what people one day could be making in time. And that would be something to see. As well as plenty more for many to complain about what others are doing. ^.^
JinxMcKenzie
7 years, 1 month ago
fanatics are just like that .
they take a topic they dislike and then hate on them
tell me something new xD
srfox
7 years, 1 month ago
Cub porn is not even illegal under American law, since minors are defined as persons under 18, and a person is a human being by legal definition. There have been no cases of people being arrested for cub porn. In the Chris Handley case, the prosecutor excluded images of "the sexual abuse of quasi-human minors, with characteristics and features of real and mythological beings." That is what the sentencing memorandum said. Even human cartoon underage porn is not entirely illegal under the law in the US, since there needs to be a lack of serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. There are manga being sold at Barnes & Noble depicting 14-15 year old kids having sex (Inio Asano's "A girl on the Shore.") The manga is pretty graphic, and the manga drawings are more realistic. Nevertheless, the story is rather engaging and pretty deep in the psychological sense. "Lost Girls" is also a comic book that depicts just about anything you can imagine when it comes to fetishes, including bestiality and pedophilia. Nevertheless, it is legal because of its artistic and literary value. Since cub porn does not fall under the law in question, it is pretty much legal to view, distribute, and possess (provided it is not shoved onto people's faces). The general obscenity laws may apply, but as I said, I have heard of no cases where such a thing happened.
In my view: cub porn has been subjected to massive misinformation from people who are against it, and from those who do not investigate the matter further due to fear or other reasons.
But we have e621, Inkbunny, WildCritters, Veebooru, and other websites that allow cub porn.
AlexHusky47
7 years, 1 month ago
I've also noticed that some cub artists have been saying "I'm going to stop doing NSFW pics" or "I'm done with cub pics". It's usually because of the fear of getting trolled if you guys do that you're just letting them win. These trolls need to do their research on the legality of Loli/shota.
srfox
7 years, 1 month ago
People have all kinds of reasons for their stopping to do things. We often resent it when artists we like stop creating something, because we like that. But who knows what issues they have. Maybe, in the case of cub, it can be that it was not their priority in the first place. In other cases it can be out of boredom. In others I suppose fear of being labeled.
But that should have no bearing on what YOU produce or look at.
AlexHusky47
7 years, 1 month ago
Don't pay attention to what I said I sometimes say stupid stuff, because of the fact I take heavy duty insomnia pills and it makes me act a little nutty sometimes.
srfox
7 years, 1 month ago
Why not? I'd say you made some good points.
AlexHusky47
7 years, 1 month ago
Oh I was talking about the comment that was concerning the fact that some cub artists quit, because of the fear of getting trolled.
supremekitten
7 years ago
I think the fact that a lot of people are ok with rape and even death but get offended at loli/shota/cub is indeed, a massive double standard.
Infinityplus1
6 years, 11 months ago
'If you use the logic "Cub Porn promotes pedophilia" argument then it automatically applies to other fetishes'

They used to argue that porn in general would elevate rape rates.  Turns out that was incorrect.  Now, decades later, they're trying to apply the same argument to any number of other things, and it's pretty much just as bullcrap now as it was then.  The only people you could argue might be primed to commit crimes based on this media are people who are frankly, as you said, unable to accurately assess reality, and should probably be getting serious psychiatric help regardless.

More to the point of people just griping about it, though, Inkbunny was pretty much established as the exodus point of cub artists and enthusiasts who left Furaffinity.  If someone doesn't like cub, and isn't satisfied with just blocking the tags, there are an abundance of image galleries which don't have it.
Reizinho
6 years, 10 months ago
If you hate cub porn, indeed, you gotta hate a lot of other kinks that are worse, otherwise it's hypocritical. I don't really care, I don't even fap to the cub porn I draw or others draw, but I find it cute and squeaky, I find it pleasant to look at. What makes me fap are stories, really, and there aren't many here that appeal to my tastes. I always think it's okay if it's fiction. Those creatures aren't even real. I never complained of any fetish art I have seen, cause, like, where's the victim?
KitSoone
6 years, 9 months ago
I don't have much to contribute to this discussion, but I just wanted to offer an "amen" to your journal and all the subsequent comments it received. Some might argue that we, this community, might be biased towards this opinion, but I'm glad to see that the Internet has a number of users that can actually exert logical thought and reasoning.
AlexHusky47
6 years, 9 months ago
Me too. I mean at the end of the day it's just lines of ink on paper/computer screen and I find it funny how idiots like that tend to see that a cub is a child, but fail to see that it's just a drawing and the fact that they're animal characters. Here on inkbunny it's rare (as far as I've seen) to have a cub artist getting trolled, because here it's a "you trolled in the wrong neighborhood" situation. The only time I've seen an extreme incident in trolling on inkbunny is the time thekzx had someone harassing him and using proxy's, but at the end of the day there's hundreds if not thousands of cub artists here on inkbunny and I've been finding brand new artists popping up alot so at the day we can have our website where we can feel more comfortable about what we like.
KitSoone
6 years, 9 months ago
It is nice to have a haven here for that, without such judgement. I know it's against IB's policies, but just in general, the same argument is applicable regarding drawn human lolis as well. Some people make a stink about it, but I uphold the very same logic, that they're nothing but a fictional image.
AlexHusky47
6 years, 9 months ago
It's like the equivalent of having someone arrested for playing GTA.
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