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Some updates for Babysitting Cream and the Twins worth talking about

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I haven't made much progress with the twins.  There are a lot of different directions I could take the game in while learning more about more features available in Renpy.  I just want to tell an interactive story, but at the same time I want to make something that feels a little more like a dating sim.  The problem that keeps coming up is grinding.  I want to make the game compelling without making it tedious.  While learning about possible new features though, I started applying it to Babysitting Cream.

It's hard to believe it's been a little over 3 years since the last update, part of it has been school, but a good part of it has been motivation as well.  This past year I've been working on and off to translate all the content of BSC from FLASH into Renpy, and I can say that I finally succeeded at doing that and then some.  After losing a good chunk of the scripts in a hard drive crash, I was able to mind a lot of the information out of the original flash file for certain things (More than 2/3rd of it had been saved as a renpy file.  Now I have the rest of it mined and for the most part implemented.

However, I now face a new challenge.  The code is just a huge mess...

I don't have to start over from scratch with writing, it's just there are so many little things in this game, I find myself doing a lot of trimming in the name or organizing the events.  For the most part I have organized the events while fixing up the code.  A lot of the stats are a lot more balanced, the code is a lot more nuanced and easy to fix.  I can't tell you how jury rigged the original build in flash was, but everything is kind of coming together.  There is just one thing that bugs me, organizing the adult scenes.

One of the biggest requests I get for BSC is having the means to replay scenes the player found without having to go through the trouble of seeing it again.  Well partly thanks to a save file system that isn't a big deal, but I am trying to organize a kind of "REPLAY" system that the player can look up if they want to see a particular scene again during their course of gameplay.  The way a lot of adult scenes are written though, they are fractured and based on stats.  I would say there are 40 or 50 short sex scenes, with each having 2 to 4 variances.

A good chunk of adults scenes are either going to be cut, or they're going to be combined with other scenes to make them longer.  There are just too many redundant or unnecessary scenes, especially with the new time system set up.  I feel terrible that the biggest one is probably going to be the "Heart Break Game" scenario because it is just far too messy to fix at this point.  I tried to make it linear but then it just feels boring and repetitive, but I'm going to try and replace it with something that feels unique.  Also the adult scenes after you ask Cream to get undressed have been combined or redistributed.  An adult scene starts up right when you ask her to remove her dress, but exploring past scenes with the right stats can unlock other unique scenes.

The game is going to feel a little more puzzlish, but it's going to be based on exploration as well.  It's less that you're solving a complex time puzzle (or something from "The Witness"), and more like you're finding patterns and hints to get what you need and there for play a little more efficiently next round.  I'm also going to add a hidden interactive sex scene as well.  I have the programming for it done, I just need the layered art to pull it together.  I was feeling a little inspired to add one after learning how they work in others games (as well as being inspired by this picture: https://inkbunny.net/submissionview.php?id=1055949 ).  It would be simple but I feel would really offer something new and unique for everyone's patients and understanding.

That's all I really have to say at the moment.  I'm not sure when testing will begin, I really need to go through the code one more time to make small fixes and organize some scenes for the better.  When the game is ready for beta testing I'll make an official announcement.  Until then I'm going to keep trying to work on this when I can.  My hopes is this summer by having some kind of release.  Thank you all for your continued support and I'll try to answer any questions you have.  ^v^
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Zobos
Zobos
8 years ago
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Well, sounds hard and take a more long time we expect, but the results would we amazing, keping it and don't give up ;)
zerom009
zerom009
8 years ago
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A lot of people would have just quit after they realized the effort was too much compared to the fact that they wouldn't be making any money off of it. Way to stick with it man!!! You're also getting a lot of experience with Ren'py which will only help you in the long run!
squark
squark
8 years ago
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Yup yup! An added bonus is that Ren'Py is generally seen to be easier to work with than Flash.
Razrien
Razrien
8 years ago
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I do love me some Renpy.  It seems easy enough to work with, but the trouble is actually getting off my butt to do what I wanna do with it  :0
squark
squark
8 years ago
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Ren'Py is easy enough to work with so long as you don't want to do anything complicated like make an RPG.
Complexity requires knowledge and motivation to learn some Python coding. The last buidl I tried didn't really have a functional "Test Scene" function.. Made bughunting awkward.

In short, Ren'Py can technically be used to make just about any game your little black heart can dream up.  Knowing how is the hard part.  There's no GUI and everything's built from scratch. It's good, though.  Flexible and supports custom information as well.
Zeikcied
Zeikcied
8 years ago
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I'm glad you're still working on it, after all these years.  Thanks for the update.  It sounds like the game will be great.  I don't know how I feel about an adult scene starting automatically when Cream takes off her dress, though.  I liked being able to select from a variety of things to do once the dress was off.  Unless that's still the case?

A more streamlined game sounds nice, but I hope new scenes are added to replace the ones we're losing.

Oh, maybe instead of the Replay mode, if you can't get that to work properly, you could do an Endless mode that's unlocked somehow (finish the main story, or complete some other objective) where you have an endless number of days to do stuff with Cream (both clean and naughty).  It might end up with more work to get to the scene you want to see, but I kind of enjoy the innocent scenes in the original Flash game.  Maybe not as much as the sexy scenes, but the innocent ones were fun, too, and an Endless mode would be more fun, in my opinion.

Like I said, though, make it an unlockable bonus, not something available from the start.  Make us earn it. :P
Kakuyon
Kakuyon
8 years ago
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Sounds awesome, keep up the good work, also it's not really a hidden scene if you straight up tell us! XP your supposed to keep it a secret! oh well I like hearing the idea's tho. over 4 year's and i'm still excited to see what comes next! ^_^
CursedFerret
CursedFerret
8 years ago
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Can't wait to see this
MarauderShields
MarauderShields
8 years ago
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Good to see so much progress is getting done. Is most of the artwork for the game finished at this point?
BlastoTheHanar
BlastoTheHanar
8 years ago
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Edited 8 years ago by Owner
So, in summery, it sounds like the major direction of the rebuild is making the game flow more organic. Sounds good to me.

There's always the old builds still posted in flash and countless rips of them across the internet for anyone who liked that structure anyway.
FelixIsOkay
FelixIsOkay
8 years ago
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I'm curious if you could maybe add a screenshot or two? o-o
KevinSnowpaw
KevinSnowpaw
8 years ago
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im really glad your back on the job XD i was super missing BSC
mp0027
mp0027
8 years ago
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Thanks for you and Avalon's work, and giving us updates when you can! Remember, if you ever lack motivation that you have Hundreds of us cheering you on!
R0XIZ
R0XIZ
8 years ago
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Keep up the good work! Don't get discouraged by daunting tasks, and failure. It may have been 3 years but we certainly have not forgotten about it, take all the time you need to improve the game.
NekoVeil
NekoVeil
8 years ago
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It all sounds impressive. Looking forward to both games as you improve everyday.
Wakka
Wakka
8 years ago
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Cutting out the fat more less it sounds like. XD But that's good to do. And it sounds like your doing an awesome job on BSC so i can wait and can't wait to play it. :D All good things come to those who wait. :)
GarretMvahd
GarretMvahd
8 years ago
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I hope the code is clean enough to allow for a little modding, I was hoping there'd be a dark path, but unless you outsourced it, I don't think it'll be there and I really wanted one (speaking from one of your earlier posts) Still, regardless, looking forward to this new version.
D1zzyMan
D1zzyMan
8 years ago
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Hell yeah, sounds like the BSC game is still in development, I had feared it was dead.
Hygiliack
Hygiliack
8 years ago
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WOW, Im so excited, can't wait until is done :D Thanks for all the work you are putting into it :D
progste
progste
8 years ago
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sounds like you're doing well, i can't wait... well i waited 3 years so i can wait but you know what i mean xD
NeksusCat
NeksusCat
8 years ago
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Glad to hear you haven't gave up on the project, man! :D
Way to go, can't wait to see the outcome of new BBC layout and gameplay! ^w^
thetwistedabyss
thetwistedabyss
8 years ago
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Really looking forward to any kind of release. Just keep your chin up. Quite a few people obviously believe in you. Wish you the best m8.
Exelbirth
Exelbirth
8 years ago
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I think you deserve monetary compensation for the trouble you're going through with this.
evildumdum
evildumdum
8 years ago
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I have alot of experience coding with ren'py and python. If you ever want a hand or advice just drop me a line. Also are you active on the lemmasoft forums?  I find they can be a huge help.
Minke3339
Minke3339
8 years ago
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i can't what to see the new game
Bananenpwpw
Bananenpwpw
8 years ago
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Happy to hear you're making headway with this project. If I were you I would probably have jumped ship at this point, so big ups for sticking with it!
renny17
renny17
8 years ago
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Thank you for the update, my friend. Take all the time you need to. :D
strikecentral
strikecentral
8 years ago
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Any update or add-on for BSC will be welcome. Nay-sayers can all go rot in hell.

Looking forward to seeing your work.
red123223
red123223
8 years ago
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Sounds like good progress, but a question, did you have no one else to help you work on the code or help you organize? Also as for the replaying scenes I feel like you could add a cg gallery, but then again if has variations and stuff I'd rather do it myself than view from a cg gallery, and if you're cutting out sex scenes possibly make them a reward gallery after game completion? That's just my opinions and such, either way, looking forward to it and the direction it'll go.
red123223
red123223
8 years ago
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Also I don't know how many other people are looking forward to it but I'm still looking forward to the twins game
sneaka
sneaka
8 years ago
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Thanks for your time and effort, needed to do something that is so awesome.. and so fun to play. You have helped me to understand myself better, and to not give up on anything i want to do.. I look forward to the latest BSC game.. Thanks to you both !!
superjeno
superjeno
8 years ago
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Great news! I'm really excited about all the changes you're making :) Sounds like a totally different game (in a good way!)
I was wondering about the scenes with the other characters (Tails,...), how are they changing? Are they still planned?
micahh
micahh
8 years ago
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I love how after 3 years within a day of a hint of an update you get so much love, I don't mean to be a pest but I'm sure we would all love an awkward, glitchy, broken,unfinished, even sexless version just to toy with and rekindle the love a bit, because I still go back to bsc some times, but as a beta tester and aspiring dev, I want to see how she has changed.
Thanks for reading, I love you man... No homo... Who am I even kidding? ALL the homo
MiaMon
MiaMon
8 years ago
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wow it's been so long and now it seems like it's just a breath away.
take all the time you need, we've waited this long, we can wait a little longer.
MercyAngel
MercyAngel
8 years ago
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Just thought I would ask...is there going to be any gay content in this like the last one? It would be nice if you guys still had the Tails scene but made it a lot less harsh...
Vantri
Vantri
8 years ago
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That's an amazing update! Looking forward to see how it's going to look in the new engine.

I hope you're hanging in there with everything that take up time, like work and such, and take your time with your game(s) so they don't break you :)
JEWTzilla
JEWTzilla
8 years ago
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I waited almost ten years for KH3...i can wait a few months for BSC. :3
tsmith5143
tsmith5143
8 years ago
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Edited 8 years ago by Owner
Do you have any idea about when there will be an update?  I'm not pushing, just wondering! I was also wondering will this be like a freestanding game or do you have to have a special player for it?
Tannenbaum
Tannenbaum
8 years ago
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Maybe this is what you are doing, but I keep thinking you should build a game engine. In other words, build the framework for the game, without content. Then it is simply fill in the blanks.
It is something you could use as a blank canvas for other games, or to create story lines for other characters.
You could even have an option, (maybe unlockable if you get a high enough score,) to let the user replace the images with their own. (Just a thought.)
After that, I would think just flow-charting the story, then setting up the point system, and filling out all the content, story, image, to complete the game.
tsmith5143
tsmith5143
7 years, 11 months ago
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Exactly what is Renpy, I've never heard of it before?
ketsueki
ketsueki
7 years, 6 months ago
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Some simple search engine use results in:

https://www.renpy.org/

" Ren'Py is a visual novel engine – used by hundreds of creators from around the world – that helps you use words, images, and sounds to tell interactive stories that run on computers and mobile devices. These can be both visual novels and life simulation games. The easy to learn script language allows anyone to efficiently write large visual novels, while its Python scripting is enough for complex simulation games.

Ren'Py is open source and free for commercial use.

Learn More

MiaMon
MiaMon
7 years, 11 months ago
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summer is almost over so hopefully we'll get something soon
i recon i could wait another month easy
after that the eager beaver will bless me with hype
mylilsecret24
mylilsecret24
7 years, 11 months ago
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But.. But summer doesn't end til August
MiaMon
MiaMon
7 years, 11 months ago
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jan - mar = spring
apr - jun = summer
jul - sep = autumn
oct - dec = winter

i think 0_o
zerom009
zerom009
7 years, 11 months ago
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Spring - March Equinox to June Solstice
Summer - June Solstice to September Equinox
Fall (autumn) - September Equinox to December Solstice
Winter - December Solstice to March Equinox.
MiaMon
MiaMon
7 years, 11 months ago
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but september is so far away O_Q
darkthefallen
darkthefallen
7 years, 8 months ago
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is there any version available to play? sorry if there is i kind of just found out about this lol
Chibikonekochan
Chibikonekochan
7 years, 8 months ago
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Sorry to bug but does this mean we could see a new version of BSC by Christmas?
ketsueki
ketsueki
7 years, 6 months ago
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Thank you so much for the updates.  An FAQ would also be useful (as I'm sure you've answered a handful of questions over and over again...).

I do have a suggestion for both hints and managing save-states related to being in a given place on the storyline at a time.

Have a photo-album of sorts, where when you reach a checkpoint with a set of stats that defines an as-yet un-fulfilled entry point that creates a snapshot at that point.

You might provide different levels of clues about the unique events, such as a timeline (the open gaps signify where to look) or grouping by location (then time?).

As a bonus, since those are all stat-saves, you could then resume a game from that point forward.  If allowing that you might also add a skip scene feature.
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