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Norithics

Back to work -&- Autism

My vacation extended a little longer than it was supposed to, but apparently I needed the rest, because only in recent days have I felt recharged. But come Monday, things will be going back to normal and I'll be drawing pictures for all you lovely people. Hoorah~ : )

While on that much-needed rest, I really began to wonder about something. It's come to my attention recently that I know a lot of autistic-spectrum people. Mostly online, true, but it materializes in real life as well, and I really began to ask the question: why? What kind of coincidence is it that I just happen to know so many?

After meditating on it, however, it makes total sense to me. People with singular obsessions continue down the line of their choosing, burning that candle as bright as they can, eyes unwavering from the flickering flame. Because they enjoy it so much, it's hard to see anything else, and their encyclopedic memories of their specified interests stride the border between mastery and madness.

I, on the other hand, have no such laser-guided focus. Much the opposite, I can barely keep my attention on one thing at any time. Something as long as a movie is too laborious to sit through most often, because I have no opportunity to contribute. My memory is a lacquered bar counter, things sliding speedily where they need to go and crashing to the floor if the necessary recipient of relevance wasn't there at the time.

But as a result, I also bring the perspective of variance to everything I get involved in. I see that focused boy and his spinning top, and I muse out loud that, hey, there might be a new and interesting way for the top to spin- maybe upside down. Surprised, he tries it, loves it, and latches onto me happily to see what other wonders of top physics I can uncover with my capricious flights of fancy. Sadly, I'll probably not even think about the top again for another several weeks, but  he's willing to wait- usually. Multiply this encounter by the hundreds, and this has essentially become my life: a roulette wheel of random things I hope to inject something new into, with a random assortment of people who're going to be entertained that particular time.

Given this understanding, it makes all the sense in the world now. I'm essentially a mirror that reflects others' interests and magnifies or distorts them. I can't complain, they've been very good to me when passion hasn't trundled all over decency. Keep on rocking.
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Added: 5 years, 1 month ago
 
Stryderfox
5 years, 1 month ago
Nice stuff you put in there Norithics, I'm truly autistic, but I can function on a daily basis.
SpaceGojira
5 years ago
same here ^_^ I'm autistic, but yet I can be just like everyone else, though there are still some bits and pieces of the autism left in my brain and i do show it here and again with only doing small, minor things.
Zeikcied
5 years, 1 month ago
Hmm.  That's an interesting take on it.  What drew me to you originally was a series of sketches of a raccoon boy and his family.  That hit on both loli/shota and incest, and you did recently call my interest in incest a "laser-guided focus." ^_^;  *cough*
Zeikcied
5 years, 1 month ago
And I've never really thought of loli/shota or incest as one of my main interests/focuses until I read this journal.  I never think of it being possible for a fetish/kink to be a primary interest.  Would kind of make sense that my other interests have kind of weakened as I've gotten more involved in sites like FA, IB, and a couple loli/shota sites over the past several years.

...I wonder if there's a way to counteract this...
YukiAkuma
5 years, 1 month ago
I think your analysis is pretty much spot on.

Although I do hope my tastes are varied enough that I'm not a one-note kind of person. >.>
Norithics
5 years, 1 month ago
You're pretty self-aware, which negates most problematic aspects. I really forget you're 'among the ranks,' most times.
Fira
5 years, 1 month ago
I can relate as i have Aspergers's syndrome, a form of autism.
Norithics
5 years, 1 month ago
Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one who doesn't. *laughs*
Fira
5 years, 1 month ago
It's more common that most think. It just doesn't get diagnosed because high function autism like Asperger's Syndrome don't have the normal indicators of autism.
ShikiStar
5 years, 1 month ago
What this person says is true. O: i has it aswell.
Rappy
5 years ago
I also have aspergers but very mild
Rappy
5 years ago
Do you have ADHD?
YukiAkuma
5 years, 1 month ago
That sounds like it should be Asperger's Syndrome's marketing slogan.

"Asperger's Syndrome: A form of autism".
Fira
5 years, 1 month ago
Most people have no clue what it even is.
Exelbirth
5 years, 1 month ago
I'm diagnosed with that one myself.  Never cared enough to learn anything about it though.  I do know that most jobs will cause me to have panic attacks induced by high anxiety.
Fira
5 years, 1 month ago
I know that with mine I tend to keep my emotions bottled up until i either explode on somebody or I just emotionally and physically shut down, I have some ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder), ADD, clinical depression, and very poor social skills (Both in small and large groups). For me I know that if I go to a party I tend to either stick to one person I know or else I pull away from everybody and hide in a deep dark corner.
Exelbirth
5 years, 1 month ago
I rarely spoke to anyone growing up, even within my small group of friends.  Always sat more to myself, playing a handheld or reading a book.  When alone, I had an obsession with making videos and watching youtube.  When I was little, I tried making a video using bath toys and action figures.  When I was a teenager, I made small sets out of legos and just played around with them, imagining how it'd be as a video.  Now, I make videos on youtube.  Wish I could get a larger following though.

Speaking of bottling emotions, I had a strange experience with emotion for a couple years. When I hit puberty, I basically stopped having them.  I mean, I still felt emotions sometimes, but I would always revert to a neutral state within seconds.  I'm just guessing, but I think what happened was my brain was trying to process too many new things at the time, so emotions were kinda bottled somewhere else.  I had emotional breakdowns about every other month those couple years.
YukiAkuma
5 years, 1 month ago
I dunno, an awful lot of people on the Internet seem to know what it is!
Fira
5 years, 1 month ago
Thank Google and Wikipedia.
YukiAkuma
5 years, 1 month ago
I'm more willing to thank the hundreds of antisocial nerds who latched on to Asperger's Syndrome as a way of explaining why it's really not their fault that they're jerks and no one likes them, honest.

It took me years to get over fear of that stigma when I was diagnosed. Fuck those people.
Fira
5 years, 1 month ago
I agree! There is a difference between being an anti social prick and having autism of any form.
ElfenSciuridae
5 years, 1 month ago
People should not be defined by labels. With that said, Spot On Norithics!
People are not one sided coins but multisided gems.
SergeSkunk
5 years, 1 month ago
All I know is that I'm fabulous. And that should be enough^^
Fira
5 years, 1 month ago
*Turns on the song 'If you were gay' from Avenue Q* :P
PonderousPlatypus
5 years, 1 month ago
It is interesting how much autism has exploded onto the scene in recent years, and it feels like it is finally starting to get the attention it deserves. My little brother is an autistic, as well. I guess this doesn't really have anything to do with the journal! Haha.
SteelPH
5 years, 1 month ago
I'm autistic as well. I fully admit to being one-note on many things(tittyjobs being one of em), though sometimes I move from one thing to another and focus on that. :P
Zarpaulus
5 years, 1 month ago
I'm Aspergarian and I know quite a few furries who are on the autism spectrum, ADD, depressive, or any of a host of other neurotypes.  I even know a paranoid schizophrenic and transgendered Aspie.

I tend to attribute the number of Aspies on the internet to how easy the net makes it to communicate for people with "processing delays" as I tend to describe the long pauses, stutters and mid-sentence corrections I tend to make when communicating face to face or on the phone.

And yes, we do get obsessive about things, probably why most of us seem to be nerds.

I would also like to note that before it was taken down the Aspies for Freedom forum had a thread asking about alternative sexualities such as orientations or polyamory come up every few months.  Something frequently brought up in such threads was a suggestion that social outcasts tended to influence one another or something like that.
notmenotyou
5 years, 1 month ago
You know, you sure have the rare talent of taking a step back and observing things happening around you and to make things worse, you actually know how to use knowledge gained though the process, I see so many people incapable of putting their actions/relations to others/thoughts into perspective with other people's actions and thoughts that it is quite refreshing to see you actually doing it.

Anyway, I am kinda sad that I never had the chance to actually talk to or interact with autistic people, I hear many different things about all the different types of autism but I never had the chance to simply talk to one, it would certainly be interesting to talk to people who think in somewhat different way than others and will deal, look and handle problems or information different than others.

And the last of independent thoughts, if you are happy with being that mirror that reflects and sometimes distorts, awesome, few can find out what they are and accept it, even if it is just in a metaphorical sense, so many people can never accept what they see in the mirror or much less what others show them, so many people put on masks to hide before themselves.
A pity.
Flexible
5 years, 1 month ago
It could be because The Autism Society stats say that one in every 88 people, just in America, have autism. It's common due to the variety and severity. As well, diagnosis of the disease has been increasing by about 10% world wide over the last five? Six years?
Fira
5 years, 1 month ago
It isn't helped by the fact that Autism is actually just the label for a VERY broad spectrum of issues. Thus the reason they say things are Autism Spectrum Disorders.
Flexible
5 years, 1 month ago
Yeppers.
ScottyKat
5 years, 1 month ago
Welcome back. Glad you had a good rest =3
rick2tails
5 years, 1 month ago
hmm I like Tails but not THAT much.Good to hear youre finally recharged.I was starting to worry .Who is going to draw our depravity so cheap if not you? ;)
YukiAkuma
5 years, 1 month ago
You literally have the character's name in your handle and you claim to not like him that much? ;)
cesar23
5 years, 1 month ago
Pretty wise idea Norithics pretty wise remember that Life has not become to understand it, but to live it.
Lamia
5 years, 1 month ago
if you don't have autism, that means you must have ADHD nori

and if not ADHD, then asperger's

if not asperger's, then you need to go into a facility to be held for observation indefinitely while they collect your insurance money
Norithics
5 years, 1 month ago
Haha!
Oh god, it's so true.

When I was trying to get help for paranoid schizophrenia (inherited from my father), they diagnosed me as aaalll the super-common things you could pin on kids at that time, and prescribed every kickback medication they could. I went through about seven of these 'professionals' before one of them finally shut the fuck up and listened for a second, easily telling me that I was some kind of schizophrenic- in retrospect, the rampant hallucinations and paranoid delusions should've been a big fucking clue. But then, there's no cure for that, no medicine that helps it, and thus no money- can't have that.

Wow, did that ever leave a sour taste in my mouth for the field of mental medicine.
Milkie
5 years, 1 month ago
Well, I suppose we ought to be thankful that Doctors aren't always right. I am, in any case. If they were always correct, I wouldn't be here today!

Medical science is a rapidly progressing field - or at least, rapidly changing. If it's not actually moving forward, then they're changing everything we know about something that's already established. I wanna have complete faith in doctors as much as the next guy, but the painful truth is that they can fall behind in their own field. Sooner or later, you're gonna get a Doc who doesn't know jack shit.

And yeah, the whole other half of the problem is the pharmaceutical industry. Because, well, it's an industry. When did industry or corporations ever save lives instead of money?
Exelbirth
5 years, 1 month ago
I truly hate the medical field.  Diagnose someone, give them a treatment that may or may not work (most likely not) and make a profit off their pain and suffering.  Even worse with life or death situations.  They can practically pick any price for a life saving procedure, and how can you argue?  You don't really want to barter with your life.

When I was diagnosed with Aspergers, I was put on riddlin, then adderal, then a couple other pills.  I hated them, because it felt like I wasn't me when I was on them.  Especially the riddlin.  I was essentially a zombie with those.  Didn't talk to anyone, didn't play much, didn't really have an appetite.  So, I stopped taking medicine completely.   After I stopped, I was able to make friends and seem semi-normal.  I had an obsession with videos and youtube though, and my grades suffered a bit, but who cares about highschool?  I haven't used a single thing I learned in it to this day.

Also, autism is way more common than I even thought. 1 in 110 children born have it, with a 5:1 boy/girl ratio.
Zarpaulus
5 years, 1 month ago
What kind of doctor did you see?  Those pills are for ADHD, there aren't any meds for Asperger's.
Exelbirth
5 years, 1 month ago
I can't really remember the kind of doctors. Most of my pill taking was done around 15 years ago though, so I believe autism and aspergers weren't well studied.
Skulljack17
5 years, 1 month ago
I know for a FACT that Aspergers was barely on the table...I lived through it myself.  Though my medicine for ADD that I was diagnosed with did help with some of my behavioral concerns growing up.  Even if it didn't stop me from filling my pants pockets with rocks that I collected aaaaaaall through second grade.  ^^;
Skulljack17
5 years, 1 month ago
While it's true that there are those that are only seeing things in the sense of dollar signs, it's not all about that in misdiagnosing a mental illness.  I realize that this isn't the same for others, but when I was growing up there weren't as many categories for autism as there are now, nor treatments in place.  I was first diagnosed with ADD incorrectly, and only 8 or so years ago I was firmly diagnosed with Aspergers.

Though, that doesn't mean that things were all roses and sunshine right after.  I had to come to terms with it...and in some ways I still am, I suppose.  Looking at my family though, I'm fairly certain my father had it as well, and he was never diagnosed or treated for it.  Mmmf...now I'm wishing I had talked to him more about it.

Regarding your meds, I take something for ADD that has worked for me...I find it easier to concentrate when I'm on my medicine.  Everyone can have certain subtle reactions to stuff though that are different, but in your case it seems to be more of a drastic change.

Anyways, the main point of this is that things are still being discovered and learned about these afflictions.  For instance, I horde stuff.  I ask my therapist why...and he doesn't know why that is, but lots of folks that have similar behaviors as myself also horde things.  There are still things that we do not know...but that isn't a bad thing in some respects.  Part of life, I believe, is in finding meaning to everything on your own, I think...heh, that got a bit spiritual at the end there, huh?
Exelbirth
5 years, 1 month ago
And that drastic change was on the smallest doses.  After living like that, I'd rather just be my dysfunctional self, focused on my games and making videos while hiding in my apartment from the outside world because I have a pretty strong sense of paranoia.  Though I wouldn't doubt if my paranoia was my mother's fault with her constant talk of never trusting anyone because all anyone wants to do is take advantage of people for money.
Skulljack17
5 years, 1 month ago
Do you have a therapist, or doctor you see on occasion?  Anyone that you can talk to personally that knows about your condition and supports you?  I have, over time, developed a network of folks I know personally that I can talk to regarding my issues, and that have gone through similar difficulties of being 'situational behaviorally challenged', as I like to call it.  I can see your paranoia coming into play to make that hard for you, but not impossible.  You are conversing with us here on the internet after all.  Even if it's not quite the same as face-to-face, you are still reaching out to others in this manner, so that might be a way to work around that problem.
Exelbirth
5 years, 1 month ago
I used to see a therapist, though I didn't have a choice really. Soon as I had a choice, I stopped seeing her, mainly because I hated having to talk about myself to someone I didn't know.  Which actually brings me to the oddity I do on the internet: I have no issues telling anyone about myself on the internet.  I suppose it's the level of social interaction I'm able to do, which is non-face to face.  Or maybe it's because I can take as long as I feel like mulling over my response before saying it.  With a therapist, you need to be out of there in a time limit, so it can feel a bit rushed to me.
Zarpaulus
5 years, 1 month ago
I thought there were anti-psychotics drugs for schizophrenia.

Though they apparently have some side effects, John Nash stopped taking them then never went back on unlike in the movie.
Norithics
5 years, 1 month ago
Anti-psychotics are a joke; they're basically tranquilizers. They're something they give to the really bad cases so they'll calm down and stop freaking out. They benefit the doctors and the family, but not the patient. Not at all.
Rikmach
5 years, 1 month ago
That's... pretty sad.  Also paints a rather vivid picture of despite how much we've learned, we're still fucking clueless about how much of the brain functions.
Norithics
5 years, 1 month ago
And more importantly, how unwilling most professionals in the field are to admit that the science is still in its infancy.
Rikmach
5 years, 1 month ago
One assumes that it's highly frustrating to go through years of medical school and untold numbers of dollars, only to find out that you can't fucking help some people despite what you were told.  It must be unbelievably tempting to just lie to others about it, or worse, yourself.

Still, that said, we should expect better of our medical professionals.
Kuto
5 years, 1 month ago
i have autism myself but it effects me more in the social aspect if anything, i haven't noticed a problem in multitasking except with something really boring but i don't think that's limited to just people of autism.
Burby
5 years, 1 month ago
Probably the same here. Honestly when I look at my brothers I'm glad I'm not similarly social, they for instance seem to spend a lot more money and drink a lot more. That contrast also seems to make my mom unnaturally worried if I share a bottle with my bf overnight, while she manages to not notice my brothers with their friends going on one bottle per person, usually stronger stuff too.
I'll be happy spending my time in my room with the "few" people I do like to talk to and hang out with, and on occasion buy something unusual like a squishable (god I love those things). Maybe I'll stop getting weird looks from the people in the house (and only them, strangely) once I move out after finishing my study.

By the way, I think it's pretty funny in a way how this whole comment section became some sort of evidence that such a huge amount of people on IB is autistic.

P.S. sorry for the life story :V
Norithics
5 years ago
That is rather funny, isn't it? Proof of concept, I suppose!
Skulljack17
5 years, 1 month ago
I had so many mental diseases, and took so many pills.  One perscription made me throw up when I took it!  Glad I wasn't on it for long.  I still act out in unusual ways...and a friend of mine would always ask me: "What the heck is wrong with you?"  To which I would respond: "A lot."  ^.^

It's funny...I can get so swept up in something I don't see anything else.  Like missing the forest for the trees, or however the quote goes...I don't know that one, cause it didn't really interest me.  See what I did there?  Heh!

Hey, Norithics?  Do you mind if I was one of those folks that can talk with you now and then?  I've lost touch with some folks that used to ground me in some respects, and even if we don't really talk that much, knowing there's someone that I could reach would really be useful I think.  That, and just having more friends in general never hurts either!

Also, when exactly do you stream on Mondays?  The time, that is.  I've never been to one, but I've seen some of the results before, and I'm curious to attend one.

All the same, am glad you are rested and refreshed, mentally and physically!
Milkie
5 years, 1 month ago
I don't think I'm autistic... just a moron sometimes. n_n;

I have my share of issues, but aside from the usual laundry list of physical disabilities and short-comings, and some mental difficulties, I haven't been pegged with any sort of... behaviour disorder. I probably wouldn't be the first to tell anyone that I'm introverted, crude, and enact some venomous qualities (Ol' Ma says it's a defence mechanism) - and lately I've had a bitch of a time motivating myself to accomplish even the most menial of tasks, but none of that has had a title slapped onto it by some over-paid Quack.

Honestly, I'm near certain I've developed some form of depression that rears its ugly head more often than I'd like to admit.
doomcup
5 years, 1 month ago
I have aspergers myself. It does have an effect on me, especially the social stuff, but I try to work through it. I'm glad to have a system of friends to help me through things.
Eviscerator
5 years, 1 month ago
Norithics, the fire control system for hundreds of laser-guided precision weapons...
That1DTHguy
5 years, 1 month ago
I am autistic and I know what you mean about the laser-guided focus thing, You all know about my Tailsko obsession for about three to four years now. But I have another obsession with singing robots that I have been hooked on since 99. A few other obsessions I have had came and pass, but sometimes they found away to get back to me.
Danund81
5 years, 1 month ago
I've had that thought before.

"Hm, I wonder if I'm autistic?"

I fit the description as a kid, but looking back on my days in gradeschool, I've come to the conclusion a lot of the 'symptoms' were circumstantial.  My school SUCKED.  The large majority of the kids were mean, evil little cretins spawned to only taunt those who were weaker. I didn't speak to them because being as quiet as possible was the best way to not get bullied, attention was BAD.  I stayed closer to the teachers out of protection rather than actual interest.   I desired an escape, and my focus became world of warcraft.  Then my mom died when I was 13 and home became just as much hell reinforcing that addiction to Azeroth.  

Dark past aside, once I went to college it all changed.  My fears of social torture were slowly cleansed by those I met who were there with the same goal in mind, to learn and just enjoy life.  I find myself in these last 5 years the most outgoing I've ever been.  I gained real life friends,  a handful of those I can trust rather than a large peanut gallery.  They know my perversions, and some even enjoy viewing them.  I started acting on my feelings, I literally changed into a complete opposite person.  I gained courage to just 'do it', tempered of course with common sense.

In short, I don't have time to worry about what's wrong with me, I'm busy doin' shit! =3
Shokuji
5 years, 1 month ago
Glad to hear you're feeling recharged. I hope everything goes well with the job.

Variety is the spice of life. =3
SoraWolf7
5 years, 1 month ago
While I don't have autism, I do deal with depression that has been recently discovered (as in within the past year). I'd never even thought I could have a mental disorder until I spent two weeks oversleeping and missing required college art classes. While I did have a few incidents in my childhood (such as a moment of depression and a moment of literally blind fury), most of my childhood was self-induced isolation due to the feeling of not fitting in.

College changed things because I got something I never had before, friends. I found a group that was like me and would readily accept me and I opened up like a keg at a frat party.

But anyway, I'm glad to hear you're recharged and I'm looking forward to visiting your stream and seeing more work!
Spooderdoodler
5 years, 1 month ago
I have high-functioning Anti-Social disorder, and my doctor seems to go back and forth on whether or not I also have high-functioning Aspergers. Never really cared about it. I don't have a laser focus, but I do latch onto things I like while ignoring fields I don't care for. Growing up, I had to practically learn how to have emotions and read other people's. I just don't fully grasp it. I've been told I'm really nice, but only on  a shallow level. If someone is a close friend then  it's different, but with everyone else I just sort of act really nice but deep down I typically just want them to leave.
pzkfw
5 years, 1 month ago
*tips le fedora*
Tailikku
5 years, 1 month ago
I'm autisic myself
GeckosFancies
5 years, 1 month ago
Interesting observation; this fits when I look back. You've introduced some vital seeds of mutation to my thought patterns.

...funny that you brought this up, because I'm waiting /hoping for a neuro-psychiatric evaluation for exactly that, right now. Me and my therapist decided to ask for it last week. (I would have had this done sooner, but communication difficulties and my anxiety made it nearly impossible.)
Norithics
5 years, 1 month ago
Hunh! How about that, I didn't even consider it in that context. But yeah, I can see it, now. I'm glad we had that moment of chemical change. I know I benefitted from our exchanges quite a bit myself. =)

That's really something else. Regardless of the results, I hope you find what you're looking for.
GeckosFancies
5 years ago
I've done my best to hide the mental /emotional /communicational traits that suggest it (because they set me apart from others, and that made me a target, in various ways). I’ve generally faked a “natural” way of talking /writing, and I’m good at that. It just takes up so much energy, if I want to figure other things out, I have to quit.
(This comment got very long before I cut it down. I have a drive to be precise, and it tends to result in walls of text. Might get back to you with more of that, but honestly I'm kind of shy to talk about it in the open.)
Rakaziel
5 years, 1 month ago
I wish I was better at that one-sided focus. I have asperger, but when I am frustrated or have conflicting priorities I get quite easily distracted.
JohnEnigma
5 years, 1 month ago
I'm an aspie, and most people find me weird. I don't know why.
Rikmach
5 years, 1 month ago
You know, there's actually a word for what you are:

A Muse. :)  You inspire creativity in others.
AlexanderValentine
5 years, 1 month ago
It's funny how my doctors tried to claim I was autistic because I had a higher sense of intelligence when I was younger.

I've come to believe the fact that doctors will tell you anything to get a little more on their paycheck.
missingno2
5 years ago
i use acorns as tops and i have aspergers which branches off of autism
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