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Kepora

Video card help!

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I need to know which of these is best for the cost, or if there's a better one available for $90 or less! I want to be able to play Skyrim better and really crank up the graphics on SL!

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mudpaws
5 years, 3 months ago
this ans use the HDMI  better vidoe and sound  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16...
TechKat
5 years, 3 months ago
A little over your budget but this may work perfectly: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16...
Kepora
5 years, 3 months ago
Was directed to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16... I think I'm gonan go with it after talking to my friend, Axle :3
Kepora
5 years, 3 months ago
The one that Arle showed, and two comparable ones:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Subm...
Jovo
5 years, 3 months ago
the MSI by a longshot... i have always used msi, love their cards, and superior cooling.
Kepora
5 years, 3 months ago
Was directed to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16... I think I'm gonan go with it after talking to my friend, Axle :3
Jovo
5 years, 3 months ago
look out! its a pci express 3.0! all the cards you had mentioned before were pci 2... i would have recomended something like this, but your hardware may not like it... MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY. id suck to buy a card your motherboard cant use.
Jovo
5 years, 3 months ago
btw that card may be faster, but has slower ram.
Jovo
5 years, 3 months ago
this card would be significantly better cause it has DDR5 instead of DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16...
btw to keep the cost low, this is a refurbished one. but yea, up to you ;)
the 7750 ranks 84  -  http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+H...
the GTX 650 ranks 77  -  http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+...
(lower is better)
Good luck, and happy gaming :P
Kepora
5 years, 3 months ago
Out of stock. >.< And I was told to avoid refurbished Nvidias, as well as 630s and 650s...
Jovo
5 years, 3 months ago
haha, well i know its not the peak performance, but ive got a 5 year old OC msi 9800 gt and its still cranking out the games... im gunna buy an msi GTX 660 for christmas this year. if you would like any more recommendations, lemme know.
Arle
5 years, 3 months ago
Okay, after checking the Steam store page for Skyrim, I found that the recommended minimum video card was an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 or ATI Radeon 4890.

Doing a quick google turns up this benchmark page:  http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/

Cards with the GeForce GT 630 chipset score at the top of the mid-range video cards, but the GTX 260 and Radeon 4890 are high-end chips, so I'd steer clear of the GT 630s.  (Most likely they score that well because they have a 128-bit bus despite having an otherwise lackluster chip with few cores.)*

Of the cards you linked, the ECS GeForce GTS 450 scores the best.  Despite having half the cores of the MSI GeForce GT 640, the GTS 450 has a 128-bit bus which gives it better performance in most instances than the 64-bit bus of the GT 640.

That said, I have no prior experience with ECS, so I cannot comment on the quality of that brand.  I do have to agree with Jovo that MSI is a solid and reliable brand.  The Radeon HD 6670 scored in between those two chipsets, and I've owned a Sapphire card which seemed to be okay, and I haven't heard many complaints about their cards, but that's no guarantee.

If you could afford the $180 price tag, I would strongly recommend this instead as it will perform much better and not go obsolete as quickly:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16...
Pricey, yeah, but the 256-bit bus size is four times better than the GT 640 and twice that of the GTS 450, it has twice the cores of the 450 (same number as the 640 which is hampered by its small bus), and it has twice the RAM of either of them.  Besides, I currently have a different brand of card with essentially the same stats, and I can tell you it runs Skyrim very well.


*Bus size determines how much data can reach the processor cores at once.  A larger bus means more data gets through to the cores.  Cores are the things that process data, so more cores means data is processed faster once it arrives.
Arle
5 years, 3 months ago
Bugger - strike that bit about the Radeon.  It's getting late and I made a mistake.  Don't consider that Radeon.  I was looking at the wrong stats.  It scores lower than the GeForce cards.
Kepora
5 years, 3 months ago
Was directed to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16... I think I'm gonan go with it after talking to my friend, Axle :3
Kepora
5 years, 3 months ago
Right, I saw two other comparable cards for slightly less, and one of them has a smaller bus, but the other stats are...wow!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Subm...
Arle
5 years, 3 months ago
The Radeon isn't bad.  It will indeed perform a bit better than the GeForce GTS 450 in most instances.  I hadn't considered it because it is PCI Express 3.0, and the previous cards you linked were PCI Express 2.0.  I wasn't sure your motherboard would handle anything higher, so I didn't check.

Here is is a refurbished card, but it's a great price for a good card.  My current card is an EVGA, and I haven't had any problems with it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16...

The two comparable cards you linked - the GTX 650 Ti is the one with the smaller bus.  That bus does actually throttle the performance back below a comparable GTX 560 Ti, but it's still a larger bus than what I just linked, so it will certainly be a better card.

The GTX 560 Ti you linked has only 1 Gb of memory.  That won't hurt it badly for Skyrim which was made to be compatible with the consoles of the time.  Those consoles have even worse video memory, so it's only upcoming games made for the better hardware of the newer consoles that will give you problems.
Kepora
5 years, 3 months ago
Ah. I was told to avoid the 630s and 650s, and it turns out one of the cards I foudn that I really liked had a minimum power requiredment of 400W; my power supply's only 300W >.<
Arle
5 years, 3 months ago
I agree you should avoid the GT 630 and the GT 650 is a bit weak too, but the GTX 650 Ti is an entirely different and more powerful chipset.  Now, there may be other reasons for you to avoid it like power concerns.  It looks like GTX 650 Ti cards are probably all going to want 400 Watts.  I don't have to worry about that - I custom-built my system with a really good power supply.  Since you don't have that luxury, it sounds like the best bet is the ECS GeForce GTS 450 Fermi.

In short, I'm seconding Zarphus' recommendation.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16...
Kepora
5 years, 3 months ago
Alright. You think this can handle SL well? Also, are you on Skype now?
Arle
5 years, 3 months ago
Erf.  Sorry, I went to sleep shortly after my reply - another late night for me.  If by SL you mean Second Life, then yeah, it ought to handle it well enough.  It's been a while since I played Second Life, but I don't recall it being particularly taxing on graphics cards.  The main performance hit I recall came from entering a zone with a very large number of complex prims and particle effects so that everything took a while to load.
Zarphus
5 years, 3 months ago
i use a 450GTS fermi factory OC'd  by asus. it works great. i mean GREAT. i can run ultra settings in SL, and reasonably high settings in every major title on the market right now.

the item itself is no longer carried, but use it as reference for similar cards. i got mine for about 100$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16... this one is essentially the same, sans the extra features the ASUS one offered. and in fact, appears to be an exact hardware match for my own card.
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