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RollerCoasterViper59

I dislike when artist

Well this is a little vent not a rant but a vent witch is a bit lighter then a rant, on why I dislike when some artitists blank.todays blank is Style...
I dislike when artists stick to one style more specifically form of art and don't attempt something bigger or better... one of those things is fandoms. My god some artists in certain parts of a fandom urk me because Sonic artists are like "come look at my Sonic art I don't draw anything else because Sonic is Fucking Awesome" and the Ponies are like " My Ponies are super fly and Sexy fuck other styles this is da shit" and Furry artists... well as you we're because the furry fandom is all about OC's you create you're own characters not draw famous characters then stick to that style til one days you say my god I need to make a Fan Characters of this or for some people OC but since it comes off the fandom what da fuq is so original about it. Just saying I like artists who explore they draw in one style then run over to another like multi-tasking they don't worship one style and stick to it like "praise the lord it's Digimon I'm gonna stick to you like glue and never draw anything else because I love you so much" Just saying don't stay on an island explore the world... coment as you see FIT
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Added: 5 years, 2 months ago
 
Delquea
5 years, 2 months ago
Maybe cos they dont know how and are more comfortable with sticking with what they are familiar with the most? (this is obvious in artists who been drawing the way since they began drawing and when attempting something else it comes out mega horrible to the point of personal disgust)
RollerCoasterViper59
5 years, 2 months ago
Well if I've learned anything from popular artists it's that when you draw something and you're really passionate about it make it suck make it look horrible especially if it's your first try because if you keep at it as you go on you get better at it. If you try it one time say "okay this sucks" and go back to your original style then you just failed step one in being a passionate artist. Sticking to what you do originally is good but exploring is even better :3 That's my opinion of it
Delquea
5 years, 2 months ago
Uh no you didn't fail at having a one step up. Its a matter of preference that needs to be respected.There were several historical artists who had the same style. This is due to a preference. The only thing they explored was different content. Not changing their style completely. Style is something that personal to them REGARDLESS if it from a fandom cos while it look like something specific. when comparing to the original inspiration you will see a solid difference. I noticed this with Sonic artist. they using their own version of the sonic style. Not the sonic style itself. Otherwise every single sonic fanart on the internet would literally look the same as the original artist(s) who work for Sega.
RollerCoasterViper59
5 years, 2 months ago
Due to the fact that it's still a disembodyment of Sonic that makes it a Fan Character...  one thing I never understood is how you can take and change a character up a bit and call it original when the style still comes from Sonic... like Wolves for example... if you take a wolf flat nosed and dressed up in Sonic style half looking like Tails but with one tail even with clothing and other accountrments it's not original and calling it that can get you sent to court for copyright infringment... and to the person who works with a certain artist I know knows who I'm talking about I'm glad to set things straight with that person. but if that same wolf had a muzzle and eyes stretched apart a bit then bam it's no longer a Fan character anything it becomes an OC...
Max looked like:
Maxamilion the Fox [Sonic Style] by RollerCoasterViper59
When he first started and extra features or not even in this
Fan Characters For Sale by RollerCoasterViper59
Yeah All Fan Characters... Now Fast Forward to
Maxamilion the Fox by RollerCoasterViper59
See the difference... with a few touch ups it becomes an OC and is no longer an FC no matter what rings you put around it... now does OC max need work still maybe yes maybe no I let people decide for me and I'll act on it or not if I feel he's original enough. but that's besides the point.There is a very thin line between FC and OCand some people need to realize that... but as I've stated before it's better when an artist expresses themself more then just one style or at least to me it is.Don't get me wrong some artists are good in one style I just wished they'd do more...
Delquea
5 years, 2 months ago
So aka. if my OC Ms Delly was drawn in the sonic style. she automatically becomes a Sonic Fan char because of the style? (if so that make no sense at all)

See that what I am referring to. a style dont make a char a fan char JUST because its a specific style. If what you say is true then guess what. EVERY character I ever designed are all DBZ fan chars *My style was heavily influenced by Akira Toriyama*
RollerCoasterViper59
5 years, 2 months ago
1. I don't buy it but most people online are ignorant so yes it would even if it was originally in OC style making it into another fandom's style people would say "oh god another Sonic FC" witch is a petty and biased thing to say but if your character was in Sonic style all her life and you're calling it an OC, that's when the ball doesn't make a homerun...

2. As for that last part I haven't seen any of the rest of your characters I wouldn't know yet but like I said if a character is in one style all it's life *like Sonic or Pony* and you call it an OC then it doesn't fly but if it was born original then by the power vested in the artist/character owner go nuts :3
Delquea
5 years, 2 months ago
Then no offense. you judge by appearance alone. Because by saying Ms Delly is automatically a Sonic FC for being drawn in the style when prior she was in a different style that when you judge purely on looks alone and it that kind of thinking why artists arent respected as artists cos people feel the need to overly judge them over their use of styles and anatomy. So I'm gonna have to agree to disagree and stop before it escalate.
RollerCoasterViper59
5 years, 2 months ago
Welll actually I never said that they we're automatically this or that, if they we're original prior to being in a style of fandom then their still original... What I was saying was if they we're in a style of fandom all their life like let's pretend we started Delly off in Sonic style, no wait better since I did this before lets start Max in Sonic style... now he's an OC Furry now-a-days but lets use the sonic style pics I had for him... me using that all my life then calling it original is copyright infringment, because it comes from the fandom and was in no way at all original because it's in Sonic style and I use it all the time. Now since I had him upgraded to a furry his status became OC and no matter what style he's in post to the upgrade he's stil original. see the difference.

Having a character fandom style like Sonic, Pony, Pokemon etc all your life makes it fan character and calling it original is file fr copyrights
However if they we're in an original style just once and that's what you're sticking with then as I said before it's original no matter what style it's in so go nuts <3
Delquea
5 years, 2 months ago
To me style dont mean nothing cos again by that logic all of my non furry OCs are officially DBZ fan chars cos my style is that of DBZ artist Akira Toriyama. Interestingly enough it was a hardcore DBZ fan who pointed out that despite the style. My chars were still original. A style have nothing to do with their status as fan char or original otherwise you're only judging the character by artstyle alone and nothing more or less. Now if it was SPECIFICALLY stated then I will go by their words. But if it all in a style.

And see your char Max was an OC regardless of the style unless you specifically said otherwise. NOW had he been a RECOLOR which I saw in the first image you linked. THEN thats copyright and blatant thief. Again that logic is flawed. Example. what if someone used the "Lilo and Stitch" style to design their character. That logic alone means they are Lilo and Stitch fan characters. Believe it or not it isn't. The Lilo and Stitch style originated from Chris Sanders himself. That is his actual artstyle and it been that way since he got into artwork. Having a heavily influenced style based off his dont make it automatic Lilo and Stitch fan char. Same with Craig McCracken. his style varies but you can easily recognize his use of thick lineart. Making a char in his style dont automatically make them PPG or Foster Home FC unless specifically stated. Another example is Vinson Ngo who's style is heavily based off the original artist who drawn the Street Fighter characters. None of his OCs were seen as Street Fighters FC and he even have his own fandom. (you may known Vinson as Bleedman)
RollerCoasterViper59
5 years, 2 months ago
So what do you call this
if it's an OC then I'd love to call up Sega and ask them if it's okay for the creator to use it because according to you it's original dispite looking like Amy *even says Sonic OC on the description, Sonic OC O_o* or maybe this
Goo Pony by Rhyrs
another original character? see they we're influenced yes, but by default they belong to the original artist's style weather that be Sonic or Mlp or even this
Maxameowth by RollerCoasterViper59
even if it had more details and features it wouldn't be original, it's still a fan character and calling it different is against the law. however if you blended two styles like 1/2 hedgehog 1/2 pony anthropomorphc then that's original. My point is not to judge but is to seperate fact from fiction that calling a character otriginal when it's been in one particular style all it's life isn't original it's a fan character... original characters are Max original characters are Delly original characters are hell even RedRusker, Cenny, Jasonafex... those are original.. but Jazz the Spazz isn't original *Sonic fan character look her up* even if you put rings around someone's style and dress them up ask what style of art it's in and if it matches an existing style I rest my case for example
"she's pretty, who is she?"
"Jissaiya the Hedgehog"
"awesome, what's the style"
"Sonic"
Blam
Delquea
5 years, 2 months ago
"it's still a fan character and calling it different is against the law. "

No it isnt cos Sega wont give a crap otherwise they would have did a crackdown on all the people who say "Sonic OC"
What you're doing is what I call being a Title Nazi. *SEVERAL people use the term [insert name here] OC" rather than up and saying FC. THIS is due to the fact it was a character they made up with no CONNECTION to the sega owned Sonic char but within their own story with their ideal on the fandom. This is EXTREMELY common.

[Old] Hi, I'm Vaz by CloudedFuture
FC turned OC. Was consider a sonic OC by the artist on account this character had NO connection to Sonic, Tailes, Knuckles, Amy and so on but was within his OWN fandom story. He was an Original character within the fandom. *had he been within his OWN plot, then sonic style or not he would be considered OC 100% not fandom terms*

Again this is EXTREMELY common.

FC. Blatant connection to the actual characters. [whatever] OC, No connection to any of the characters but still exist in their world. I did the same with some of my oldest chars.

Once more style dont mean nothing unless specifically stated. Once more Agree to disagree cos this argument is getting trivial since we have two perspective (and the fact if Sega really cared they would have taken action by now but it been over 20 years since and nothing been done to date)
RollerCoasterViper59
5 years, 2 months ago
Well of course Segs Doesn't care their a multi-million dollar company with real problems to care about this... I wouldn't care either if my characters got famous and people made Fan Characters of my Fire Island... however doing research I did a crack down on all existing species in the Sonic Roster 6-7 month ago and found that the only way a fan characters can be a Sonic OC is if it's Sonic style and the species has no relation to any existing specioes. for Exanmple we have Hedgehog, Fox, Cat, Hawk, Swallow, Echidna, Rabbit etc you get the picture.. if a Sonic style Kangaroo came a long witch no one has ever seen in the main Sonic shows, movies or comics then that's a Sonic OC... but having a Hedgehog or hawk in Sonic style and adding kinks to it then calling it Original is a totally different ball game. but I stick to my claim that Sega is Far too buy with real stuff to deal with fake Original Characters that are in Sonic Style or Even the Creator of My Little Pony for that matter... butIf I had anything to say about it if Fire Island did become famous... as the copyright owner of the show all art saying OC would get a warning because I don't recal ever using their version of my characters in the show... but if it say Fire Island Fan Character then I'm cool there is no problem with it :3 so let's just agree to disagree
Delquea
5 years, 2 months ago
Honestly that make even less sense *especially considering there is a kangaroo, there is even a spider*  but alrighty then
RollerCoasterViper59
5 years, 2 months ago
really, where, never seen it show me <3
Delquea
5 years, 2 months ago
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Walt_Wallabee , http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Uma_Arachnis you gotta consider ALL Sonic chars. not just the video games but the comics and cartoons as well. It cos of this there are more species than one assume.
RollerCoasterViper59
5 years, 2 months ago
humph... I see, I never knew that... that's a new one on me... wow...
Delquea
5 years, 2 months ago
Had you didn't hate sonic so much you honestly would have known that. lol *Just saying*
RollerCoasterViper59
5 years, 2 months ago
Well there is a good reason why I hate Sonic, I used to like it but I have a huge distaste of it and the fandom is to blame... if you ant to know the fyull story I'll take that part to notes
Delquea
5 years, 2 months ago
If its for a stupid reason *such as fans comparing Max to an FC because he was originally drawn in the style* don't I'll openly reprimand you. lol Plus the whole "Blame the fandom" is the dumbest thing ever to hate something. Even haters of sonic would be against you for that.
AlejandraDelFuego
5 years, 2 months ago
... I'm guilty of this I guess ^^;
RollerCoasterViper59
5 years, 2 months ago
If anything you need color XD besides that I don't see anything wrong with how you draw :3
AlejandraDelFuego
5 years, 2 months ago
Well... Its hard to do color traditionally when I'm partially color blind ^^;
RollerCoasterViper59
5 years, 2 months ago
Well in that case it's okay, I can totally understand :3
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