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Always online is a fan-rape waiting to happen.

So, about this always online thing, cloud storage, online registration of games, there is of course the obvious question of "What if I lose the internet? Will I still be able to play the games I paid for?" Maybe you will, maybe you won't, but here's my question. Assuming you always have access to the internet, what happens when the xbox one becomes obsolete? With the direction console gaming is going, there are so many things that could go wrong. Will they take the servers down and force you to re-buy the games for the next console? How long will those servers remain up? Once the next console comes out, the one could be nothing more than an expensive decoration, and all those games no longer playable.
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Added: 5 years, 5 months ago
 
esanhusky
5 years, 5 months ago
EXACTRLY why they're doing it!

Well, that and to prevent the resale of used games, but yes, I honestly believe that they won't waste the opportunity to be able to put a transfer fee on any and all games that you want to migrate to new console servers, or as you say, just say "Sorry!" and let them just go away once they're obsolete.

Makes me glad that I never was much into console gaming!
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
For migrating to a new console, as we've seen in the recent past, not all games will be able to do this. Some will just be stuck in time, only this time, existing copies of that game will be useless as well.
DraculJOSHI
5 years, 5 months ago
don't blame console gaming for the shit MICROSOFT is trying to introduce into console gaming, because it already exists to some extend in their PC almost-monopoly
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
Isn't PS4 doing the same thing?
DraculJOSHI
5 years, 5 months ago
nope, they stated many times, that they didn't even consider always-online for the ps4.

and Nintendo would neve do something this stupid >.>
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
Nintendo I can believe. PS4 however, They've already done the forced re-buy thing, so I don't have much faith in them keeping to that
DraculJOSHI
5 years, 5 months ago
forced re-buy? As to HOW? Because the next console can't use the older games? if you haven't noticed, only a select few consoles ever had reliable retroability. (two of them being Wii and PS2). Most consoles ever released only play their own games. That's not a big deal.
If you talk about the online shop offering old games for re-buying, all the consoles do that. Wii did that, Wii U does that, Xbox 360 does that and PS3 does that. You can't really fault sony for that.
However, you are always able to buy games for low-price second-hand or rent them for those consoles. You can't do that with the XBONE without paying a shitload of money.
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
" can't really fault sony for that.

Yes I can because the PS3 started with full backwards compatibility, but then they decided to phase that out so that you had to buy the PS2 games.
DraculJOSHI
5 years, 5 months ago
correction: The first gen PS3 was backwards compatible, but nobody bought them, because they were too expensive.
The 40GB, 80GB re-release, 160GB, and the slim version of the PS3 are not backwards compatible with PS2 games because all hardware chips from the former console are omitted and there is no software emulation. (to reduce cost)Software emulation of a PS2 is NOT possible on the PS3 hardware, since the PS3 hardware is not powerfull enough.
The PS2 games on the PS3 PSN-shop have their I/O interface recoded to prevent Slowdown.
The XBox360 software emulation for the XBox suffers a lot from slow-down just for the reason the 360 wasn't strong enough.
Hell, even PSN PSONE games have occasionally a really slight slowdown.
However, all versions of the PS3 are able to play PS1 games of the same region. (for example, mine could play Japanes PSOE games... and might again if I ever get it fixed.)
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
Hmm, alright, but they still could have implemented a patch system of sorts like the 360 did, or some way of redeeming a PS2 copy for the PSN version. Yeah I sound anti-profit, but I just hate re-buying games.
DraculJOSHI
5 years, 5 months ago
then I suppose you don't like GOG and steam either?
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
That's different. Steam doesn't prevent you from playing games you already own, and once you log in with a game once, you can play offline, or so I've heard. I'd know more if my ISP didn't throttle it to the point I can't use it >.< I don't know much about GoG either.
DraculJOSHI
5 years, 5 months ago
it's not different.
your old pc games still work, good.
My old console games also still work, on their original consoles, granted, but that's little different to a pc's OS. (try running a pcgame made for another OS; you are flipping a coin.)
GOG offers old games for repurchase, but has them altered to work on newer computers. It's basically like the online shop for the consoles: you pay for the same game to run on a new plattform.
Steam also does that I think... but they also offer a lot of gamers that are more actual, kind of like XBox LIVE Arcade.
Hippiemouse
5 years, 5 months ago
I heard about them...but there are only a few od games for pc i really wanna play again and last i checked they were not there.
Dark coloney(An early rts)
Word munchers(sure it was a learning game but it was fun)
Sim Ant....best sim game ever
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
And there are plenty of ways around the OS problem, like Virtual PC and Dosbox for the much older games, and you don't have to have an older computer lying around to play them.
KillaLotus119
5 years, 5 months ago
I think that the only way to get the companies to not do always online is to not buy the new consoles and show the companies that the fans don't want that.  I never buy a system when it first comes out anyway because of bugs, but I'm definitely  not buying the Xbox one but not because of the potential for always online but because it's not backwards compatible.
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
Unfortunately, the hardcore FPSers will latch on as long as possible because they want the new shiny things and they want them NOW. I'm kinda annoyed they haven't caught on yet that they're being screwed.
KillaLotus119
5 years, 5 months ago
I know right, that's why i stopped playing COD because all the games are the same with maybe slightly better graphics, I was a Gears man myself till judgement, but I've spent to much cash to lose all my games just so I can have a new shiny toy.
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
Gears of War was kinda fun.
Soggy2002
5 years, 5 months ago
Online registration has been around almost as long as the internet and PC games have existed together. It was the first form of piracy protection I suppose, but it was (and still is for now) optional. There was a point, I think it was either Assassin's Creed 2, or Brotherhood which one had to stay online for the whole time you played. My internet (which was wireless back then, so really horrifying connection) cut out twice while I was playing. The first time, the game was adorned with a magical pause screen which informed me that my internet had cut out and the game was paused while trying to regain connection. The second time, it didn't come back, the game exited (half way through a mission which had taken me quite a while to get right) and the Ubisoft launcher told me that my internet had died and I could not play until i was back online again.

That's pretty much what will happen if the XBOX is constantly online.
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
Yes! Online singleplayer needs to DIIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!!
Catwheezle
5 years, 5 months ago
This.

Also, this practice (killing off the reselling of games) might be the nail in the coffin for brick-and-mortar games stores, which have already given up on PC games.

A number of things have killed brick-and-mortar sales of PC games. Casual browser games, Amazon, Piratebay and Steam all hit together, each taking a chunk of the potential PC market. It was also a victim of its success: there are now many times more PC games than every other format combined, which means a new game has to be *damn good* to be more than an insignificant ripple in the ocean of games.

Incidentally, I love Steam, but I fully understand the hatred others bear for it, and I expect to lose my entire games collection someday because of it.
pirohmaniac
5 years, 5 months ago
No you cant play the games without the net. Have a friend with an xbox360 and no internet. Got me to bring it to my house to download the full paid version of the classic sonic games. Worked fine. Took it back to his place and the games became trials again. Go microsoft >:c
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
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