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Aval0nX

Here's an interesting Philosophical read

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8577037/Man-sent...

god bless the USA...of New Zealand.
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Added: 5 years, 5 months ago
 
HeattheDragon
5 years, 5 months ago
Is there any proper word to describe..this? [D
DMDOKURO
5 years, 5 months ago
Way to judge a book by its cover? Trial and error? Hitting the ball out of the court?

*SHOT TO DEATH*
MystBunny
5 years, 5 months ago
I find it odd that the US has the sex offender registry thing that basically ruins your life, yet when it comes to fictional child porn, the rest of the world seems to be more fucked-up than us
PaperMercenary
5 years, 5 months ago
Reading that makes me feel real awkward as a writer of cub sex in the US.
zaiaku
5 years, 5 months ago
obvious non humans, seemingly underaged, and a hentai...I got nothing. What do you think what he was watching?
Johnny117
5 years, 5 months ago
Hell if I know, man; but here are the top contenders for the title:
"This Ain't Fern Gully XXX"
"Tinkerbell: Unrated and Uncut"
"Cornish Pixies Gone Wild"
"The Not-So-Wee-Folk"
Daneasaur
5 years, 5 months ago
Umm...

I play videogames where I dress up in massive armor and strategically hunt down massive creatures.

Careful, it might drive me to suit up and hunt the neighborhood pets!

I also watch some pretty violent anime where no one is ever really hurt in the production of it.

I might have to go out, grab my best friend and turn him into a giant raygun to topple the alien overlords who run the local medical clinic.
john34404
5 years, 5 months ago
Exactly the point, thankyou for showing how messed up the law is. If people want to live pirfict lives lets just put them in a bubble.
Daneasaur
5 years, 5 months ago
How about the fact that, despite the fact that I am an avid paleontologist and spend a great deal of my time (most of my life, in fact) immersed in the science of dinosaurs and prehistoric life, that some of my favorite naughty fantisies are anthro dinosaurs?

I bet they'd think I'd make some weird ass wing in the museum of science dedicated to my personal desires, despite the fact that I would rather keep my private fantisies private.
overfiend87
5 years, 5 months ago
lol love that comment and totlaly agree with you :)
Daneasaur
5 years, 5 months ago
Just trying to keep things in perspective :3.
Ky0suke
5 years, 5 months ago
According to Diane Fienstein... you just might do that.  F*cking B!tch.  At least in recent years, she's been leading the charge for censorship and reworking of laws concerning such trivialities here in the states, anyways..
Daneasaur
5 years, 5 months ago
Probably also a member of PETA.
KevinSnowpaw
5 years, 5 months ago
Video games dont make me want to steal, kill people, delve into trap filled dungeons, or assassinate Importent heads of state and or the leaders of other nations, nor does it make make me want to attempt any other insane, dangerous or illegal activity.

Nether do any books music movies or drawings i see.

But according to Really loud annoying people who want to "Save the children" Drawn depictions of minors or minor like characters is some sort of demonic gate way drug that will encourage me to devolve into a slobbering poster child for Jethro Tull's Aqua Lung

Thats right 3 weeks from now I will be attempting to steal children from parks in broad daylight! the horror! Oh if only big brother had shot me in the face for jerking off to drawings, I would have been sparred being turned into a monster.

Please!

And  Bad 80's action movies are going to make me gun down a Colombian drug lord. <.<
overfiend87
5 years, 5 months ago
Could be worse. They could suggest that watching Red Dawn might inspire you to go out and start shooting down soldiers screaming "Wolverines!"

Gotta love movies of the 80's.
strikecentral
5 years, 5 months ago
That's insane. The only people that see this kind of thing as a problem are the people that are horrified at themselves for liking it.
Exelbirth
5 years, 5 months ago
"watching cartoons with under aged characters having sex will make you a pedophile!"

Right, because after watching looney toons growing up, I now try to hunt wabbits that can outsmart me, and watching various anime has made me likely to go around in a 2 story tall mechanical suit fighting various giant creatures.  Can't people give others more credit on being able to know what's reality and what's not?
Reptyle101
5 years, 5 months ago
"said the images were illegal because they encouraged people "to migrate from there to the real thing"."

Real pixies and trolls?
Nevyn
5 years, 5 months ago
i knew they where real XD
overfiend87
5 years, 5 months ago
Now that we know they're real, we can fuck them.
creation100
5 years, 4 months ago
OH GOD YES. XD
Bachri
5 years, 5 months ago
#They weren't even depictions of people - Clark's lawyer Roger Bowden described them as "pixies and trolls" that "you knew at a glance weren't human".#

Okay...

#However, while the cartoon characters were elves and pixies, they were also clearly young elves and pixies, which led to concerns the images were linked to child sexual abuse.#

... So... Clearly not human, but clearly young... Non-human, young... And the point is...?

#"The distribution of it is damaging. You have to ask what impact does it have even if it's not harming [an individual child]."#

None. None what-so-ever. Fifty human generations could be spoonfed this shit and nothing would happen. Because we understand reality. And watching "clearly young, not human" creatures fucking each other on a screen is obviously not reality in any form.

#Cartoon images of child abuse were a "huge" problem in Japan and the practice had started finding its way into computer games, he said#

Yes, because digital porn finding it's way into ANOTHER non-physical medium is such a horrible thing!

#It's not enough that no one was harmed in the making of the videos, the law takes a protective role and says there are some things we just don't want circulating in society#

Okay, well now you're just straight up attacking freedom of speech. So screw you.

#Clark admitted he was interested in the images but he said it was for their artistic merit and as "a bit of a laugh". He did not find them sexually arousing, he said.#

This is probably a lie on his part, but so what if he's aroused by it or not? It's his body and his monitor, he can do whatever he wants as long as it's not hurting anyone nor supporting the hurt of anyone- WHICH CARTOONS DO NOT!

#The ways a person entertains themself is not morally negligible.#

... I have something to admit. I spend my time by playing computer games, chatting with good fellows, and writing stuff when I'm bored... I am such a horrible person. Please, lock me away...
JEWTzilla
5 years, 5 months ago
So if i continue to play Sly Cooper long enough, i will in turn begin adopting sneaky traits and start a life of reality-bending acrobatics in crime?...Wow, good thing i read this.

The more you know (...the more you facepalm).
:D
bananakong
5 years, 5 months ago
since when have the "moral majority" ie the far right uptight twits ever used rational thought to "justify" whatever non issues theyre up in arms about at that particular moment? if these people were actually living in reality theyd have far more important things to worry about then what the guy next door beats off to like oh idk having lives of thier own?

KingFuzzy
5 years, 5 months ago
I personally wish to know how they came across all this when it is on his personal computer, and no where in the article does it state how or why they went looking for it. If it does i prolly skimmed over it.
Animemakesmefacepalm
5 years, 5 months ago
Uh oh.... Weeeell, were fucked
Shokuji
5 years, 5 months ago
" Anti-child pornography group ECPAT Child Alert director Alan Bell said the images were illegal because they encouraged people "to migrate from there to the real thing".
That's bullshit: "The findings support the theory that potential sexual offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex crimes against children. While the authors do not approve of the use of real children in the production or distribution of child pornography, they say that artificially produced materials might serve a purpose." & "Most significantly, they found that the number of reported cases of child sex abuse dropped markedly immediately after the ban on sexually explicit materials was lifted in 1989. In both Denmark and Japan, the situation is similar: Child sex abuse was much lower than it was when availability of child pornography was restricted."
Related: Testing Our Moral Convictions: Decriminalising Child Porn To Reduce Child Crime
NekoVeil
5 years, 5 months ago
This right here. Although I wouldn't go out and get a child, I would find some cp anyway. (At least non-nude ones.)
Don't think bad of me because I like that stuff, think good of me for never considering doing one and just looking up images instead.
Shokuji
5 years, 5 months ago
If society wasn't ignorant on this subject they wouldn't just be tolerant of cub/shota/loli they should be accepting of it and encouraging people to look at that rather than real pictures (or beyond). Sadly it seems most of society enjoys mob mentality & vigilante justice too much to show that kind of rationality & understanding.
NekoVeil
5 years, 5 months ago
No one seems to be able to tell the difference between fiction and reality. Fiction exists so we can do things in our own reality without any effect in the real reality. We can't do a kid or kill so we make a false world where we can.
overfiend87
5 years, 5 months ago
totally agree and on your side there :D
NekoVeil
5 years, 5 months ago
Thank you!

This is a lot like the whole "Violence in Video Games" topic. If it were true, then what video games where medieval knights playing? 'Cause I want some of that shit!
overfiend87
5 years, 4 months ago
lol. Hell maybe it's true, I was looking at my bottle of water, put my hand out to try and move it and the water inside was moving slightly.
keradi01
5 years, 5 months ago
There are many words to describe how ridiculous this is. The words I have decided on is; "that's fucking stupid!" If people could get influenced by porn, why not cut the shit altogether then? Hell, why not cut out anything that could be remotely fictional (which by the way, means a lot of porn because that's usually pretty damn fictitious). Seriously did they have nothing else to do that day? Maybe if the poor guy was caught with rape fantasy or "vore" porn then maybe he'd get a few suspicious looks, but this is a waste of time fueled by bullshit accusations and charges.
WolfWarrior921
5 years, 5 months ago
Sorry. Got to destroy my computer now. Later.
Jakesoftpaw
5 years, 5 months ago
Ok so heres my question...what was he watching that was so bad? I can't be the only one curious to see it can I?
SMD
SMD
5 years, 5 months ago
The worst part is that it probably wasn't anything terribly exciting, or they would have made a big deal about that in court. All they had was "this might lead to something later." Ie: Precrime and Thoughtcrime. Welcome to the future.
xXxSonicXxX2
5 years, 5 months ago
What kind of Bull Shit is this, this waste of time and money to learn of this. Someone tell me how they found out about this cause I doubt he would do this in pubic and expose children to this. Now give me

1, the way you found he had it.
2, why when there is said to be no "Fairy Tale" being(s) in the world.
3, Did it even remotely like like a human.
4, was it the troll doing the fucking or the pixie so I know what to avoid.
5, why tell this to more people so he may have to move away now.
6, why waste the effort to do this if it does not remotely look like a human.
7, Most animes/games make elfs look young as teenager when they are 60 & older so if the elf looks like a child it may have been a teen.
8, most Japanese girls look like they can be 12 when they are 21. o.o so half of the western men would be locked up for thinking this is sexy.
9, Its not easy not to look if your body thinks it ok.
10, The jail system may put him under "a Underage offender" cause they dont have a better term cause he didnt do anything wrong.
11, Tell me some people who had a hand in this bull shit does not look at a male or female that may be under age but you still like seeing it.

Really, it makes no sense cause kids are told to slow down when they are growing up. Are called wrong if they like the same sex. Are told not to do it if they think they are ready and plan on using "safety". called violent when they like a game they has violence. Are not right when they are not with what everyone seems to like. How do you win in this world? I mean truly win.
madrasalach
5 years, 5 months ago
To be fair, he was labeled an underage offender for assaulting a teenage boy.
MiaMon
5 years, 5 months ago
didn't the government make a law against passing laws on preventative measures in the 1970s?

so then technically if they make the material illegal to prevent a crime they therefore commit a crime and can be punished?

personally i think arresting people for a crime they might commit is heading straight toward the thought police end of the scale.
madrasalach
5 years, 5 months ago
This is New Zealand, the laws are much different. Don't support him for breaking a stupid law, because even if the law is stupid, it is still a law. There are states where you can't throw cigarettes out the window of your car, many people think its a pointless law, but will you argue it when someone else is caught doing it?
Aval0nX
5 years, 5 months ago
the law MAY be the law and there is a reason for there to be order in society, but stupid, bigoted/biased laws should not be supported by anyone.  The law can, will and HAS been used to abuse and oppress others since the very beginning of legal systems.
LoneWolf278
5 years, 5 months ago
i've seen other people mention it, and i will again because what is happening to him might be a crime in it self. How did they find out he had what ever it is he was looking at anyway??? I mean i don't go telling people what kinda stuff i like looking at and i sure don't show it to people. So assessing he wasn't showing what ever it was to everyone in public, wouldn't them taking it and using it against him in a court of law be an invasion of privacy??
NHGAMEBOY
5 years, 5 months ago
.... 2 things

1. owww.... dear fuck my head hurts...

and 2. there is no hope for our government....
ZeroSoul
5 years, 5 months ago
Oh, a New Zealander in here? Well considering the material on this site you should probably check out your window for a "Party Van"
overfiend87
5 years, 5 months ago
but my question is...what was the name of what he was watching...for research purposes...

But seriously, this sounds almost as bad as australia banning small titted women because of a fear it'd inspire people to want to have sex with children.
SirStefan02
5 years, 5 months ago
That means that pedos will hunt down Angelina Jolie now that she had her breasts removed to prevent breast cancer. OH, THE HORROR!!! Run ANGIE!! LOLz
overfiend87
5 years, 4 months ago
Or if anyone finds her attractive they are labeled a pedo.
rexdude1
5 years, 5 months ago
oh god pls think of the fake cartoon fantasy people wont some one pls help them boo hoo
SirStefan02
5 years, 5 months ago
Does anyone remember who Robert Wadlow was? He was famous for being 9 feet tall. If you did a shadow animation of him having sex with an adult woman but you didn't SAY it was him would you be guilty of child porn because it LOOKED like a normal man having sex with a "child"? It's all a matter of interpretation, and those who are uncomfortable with certain topics CHOOSE to outlaw it rather than err on the side of freedom.
tsmith5143
5 years, 4 months ago
I wouldn't be surprised if someday they have someone thrown in jail for wiping his own ass claiming indecent exposure to himself, saying that it was suggestive to him to commit rape upon himself!
LeonaDarkwind
5 years, 4 months ago
So given the elves long lives... odds were he was looking at the depiction of a creature at an age older than himself.
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