Ok. I am old school. aka 300 yrs ago old school.
I seriously despise those people who say, we can't discuss religion or politics.
Have you ever considered what this is actually saying? Really? think about it for a second. We can not discuss the two basic relationships and worldviews that most people view reality?
Um, why? well people have different points of view and its controversial? Um wut? JOYGASM, let it be controversial.
Rules: Different points of view are not equal. They must be guided by both logic and history. Stalinist communism, for example is a failure, on both these accounts as shown by its worldwide collapse.
Unfortunately, religion has suffered greatly, namely because of indoctrination by public education (instituted by athiests and communists alike) that brainwashed people. (and I am speaking of religion in general here)
Without religion, you would not have civilization. It was religion that has consistantly unified the people under a ruler to form a kingdom. The religion generally said these rulers were god, descendants of gods, or acting on behalf of gods.
Pharoahs had their godhood. Roman emperors were declared gods. Constantine unified a fractured Roman empire under Christianity. Charlemagne unified the French and German people under Catholic rule. The "religious wars" of the middle ages were mainly secular leaders allying themselves with protestant vs. catholic to gain local power. England as biggest example, where leader declared himself also head of the religion? really? Yet historically this is entirely predictable, yet absolutely downplayed in history?
as long as we agree on policies of evidence and logic, such things can easily be discussed...say what you want, but back it up. Do not dismiss as crazy or stupid points of view different than your own, otherwise how else will you learn?
I welcome alternate views if they can support them. Otherwise I am a victim of my own views. Just in the last 6 months, been exposed to new ideas I would never have considered before.
so what do you guys think?
Reminder...whenever some idiot says I don't want to discuss religion or politics, it means: I do not want to get to know you. I want to keep you at a distance. What you believe is irrelevant or worse, all beliefs are equal. It;s just sad. Support free thinking. Say my beliefs matter and should be discussed.
5 years, 7 months ago
06 Apr 2013 03:52 CEST