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No Longer A Member In Team Acorn!

Like this long night wasn't bad enough as it is, I lost very special friends, lost people's respect, lost my OWN respect for myself (well not really, you can't lose what you never had), and now I lost my membership of Team Acorn :'(

I'm literary crying, not because of losing a membership in some team, even if that team meant a lot to me, but because I lost very dear friends...

I may also lose my two classes, which is something I haven't told anyone, so on top of all the shit that's been going on lately https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=74650 I may become officially unemployed for a while, I really hope I'd get more classes soon...

So yeah I'm no longer a member in T.A. I didn't earn their respect, I'll be editing out the logo from my gallery but I need some time to be depressed and think things over...

Cat... You are right, I did bring this on myself, I do have a problem, I noticed it a while ago, it's out of my control, I was just afraid to admit it before worrying it may cause me to lose respect but at this point I already lost it, worse than if I have admitted... There I said it in front of everyone, I'm not afraid anymore because when you hit rock bottom there's absolutely nothing to fear anymore...

Sorry everyone for wasting your time, and T.A. I wish you the best of luck, it bothers me having you to lose more members and it was a pleasure and an honor to be asked to join in the first place, a dream that was too good to be true...
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Added: 5 years, 4 months ago
 
Kuto
5 years, 4 months ago
wait, why did you lose your membership with team acorn?
Blazeymix
5 years, 4 months ago
He did something immoral, and is not my place to say. Rest assured it was deserved and necessary.
beefalo
5 years, 4 months ago
That sucks, man. :-/ Don't fret, things will get better.
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thank you buddy I really hope so :(
NegiCake
5 years, 4 months ago
That sucks. I wish you the best of luck and I hope things do get better.
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thank you so much my friend, I could use some luck right now, things don't look good from this angle :(
Shadowwalk
5 years, 4 months ago
I'm real sorry to hear that, man.

I hope things feel better for you.
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thank you :)
ruink
5 years, 4 months ago
the show goes on, you'll be okay
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
I hope so
NeoEnvy
5 years, 4 months ago
im here for ya
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thanks
2xxx
5 years, 4 months ago
that sucks. i hope things can get better for you.
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thanks man :)
Wakka
5 years, 4 months ago
*Offers a friendly cyber dog hand shake* you may have lost some friends sonictopfan but i all so think you gained a lot as well. heck im one of em. ^^_
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thanks buddy, this sure means a lot :)
Crono
5 years, 4 months ago
hey things will get better i still think your do great art  there lost.
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thank you man :)
Goombario
5 years, 4 months ago
It's a group of furries situated on a single character. Life will go on, I promise.
NoPenNameGirl
5 years, 4 months ago
If the character you are talking about is Sally "Fancharacter" Acorn, than they already started with bad influence!
Blazeymix
5 years, 4 months ago
Ever heard of Archie? Surely you have. Sally Acorn is not a fan character at all, and no we didn't start with bad influence, who are you to talk so badly about us when you are plainly ignorant of who we are and our goals? Also maybe you didn't notice but Sonic Top Fan is mostly an Amy artist, we draw all Sonic characters in our team and accept artist who only draw certain characters, like Canastus who draws mostly Tikal.

Regardless of that, we didn't coldly kick him out, we were forced to because of something he had done. It was regrettable but we let him go with high hopes that after this matter is settled and time is passed he can rejoin.
NoPenNameGirl
5 years, 4 months ago
Ok, you guys did a group attack in one single comment of mine, so I will adress to the leader. And sense you are being nice, I will be as well:

1- Yes, she is a fan character. She is created by Archie Comics, indorsed by Sega Enterprises. She is not created by Sonic Team, she is not copyrighted by Sega, she is not in the game, and the only oficial midia is Archie Comics, and SatAM, which is NOT CANNON. She appeard in Sonic Spinball, but Sonic Spinball was a Sega of America little project.

2- I am NOT talking bad about your Team or your preference. I said "bad influence" as a joke, because, frankly, I don't like Sally Acorn at all. Simple like that. I don't even KNOW your Team to talk about it.

3- Yes, you kicked him codly. I know all the facts. Some people called his culture, the arabian, a "shit" culture. Also, they acused him for being a pedophile. If this is not racism and facism, I dunno what is. Not all people in the world follow the American culture, some places and country have their own culture. So, his "crime" was born arabian? Explain to me this.

4- My problem is not with you guys, or the ring attack on a single comment of mine, my problem is with the character, and ONLY with the Character. I can give a LIST why I dislike her, but this is not the point. The point is I was expressing my opinion on the character, and like a opinion, I am free to express it the way I want. Yes, I don't like your favorite character, but this doesn't turn me into a bitch, it's just my sole opinion. I am just a girl on Inkbunny, this doesn't will change your world, will change?

Next time, please, instead of a coordenate group attack, send one person to speak up with.
Blazeymix
5 years, 4 months ago
Only I am from TA and yes I'm the leader. I'll reply to each point with my own.

1. Perhaps you are right, perhaps not. But we can sit all day and debate the status of Sally Acorn, that isn't what this is about however.

2. Your joke as you put it was in bad taste, since this incident, this Journal does involve our team. I'll take your word for it though, if you say it's a joke then it's a joke, I'll leave it a that.

3. I'm afraid it wasn't coldly, and I won't test whether or not you know all the facts because they are too personal to Stf and I won't speak of it in public. However in THIS country, that is my country, the United States, what he did was illegal and his actions would be a pure liability on the team, and would smear our name, regardless of his culture. Don't get me wrong, he is a good friend of mine and I've MORE than tolerated and accepted his behavior and culture. However the decision to let him go was heavily considered and we came to the conclusion that for now, it'd be best he is released. We didn't just remove him and toss him on the street, we respectively spoke to him and let him know the situation, and that we can and are still friends. Even if what I believe is considered, the people would look down on our team out of ignorance, stupid people and trolls would jump at the opportunity. Too many issues would occur. If you wish to discuss it in further detail, I'm more than willing to have an IM or PM conversation with you.

4. Don't misunderstand, I didn't reply to you to rage at what you think of Sally. Frankly I can care less what you think of her, it is like you said, your opinion.  It doesn't affect me, my team, or my world. What did concern me was what you said about TA, which was discussed so I'll drop it there.

Regardless of what you think or know of Sally Acorn, she is not a fan character. I can give you a definition of what a fan character is. Sure, perhaps she isn't canon to Sega's Sonic, but the comics and cartoon are still Sonic and she is still an official Sonic character, in one Canon world or another. So I'll respect your belief that she is a Fan character if you respect mine that she is not, and call it a stale mate.

It also was not a coordinate group attack, I gave my reply, they said what they felt like saying to your comment. None of them are in Team Acorn.
NoPenNameGirl
5 years, 4 months ago
1- She having being made by a company doesn't make her an oficial character. Sure, Sally is an Archie oficial character, no doubt of it, but she is not copyright of Sega, she is copyright of Archie Comics. Look at the copyright law, if Sega SOMEDAY(I hope not, because Archie comics started to get very good) broke with Archie, Archie can use Sally and other non-sega Freedom fighters at will. The same that happened with Julie-su.  She is not part of Sega, she was created by Archie Team.

2- Sorry, the joke was on Sally character, because I find her a bit, for a lack of term, "bitchy". So I said "bad influence" of the character itself. If was a bad taste, well, sorry.

3- I don't care the true motive because, in my mind, the reaction to it was wrong. This situation could've be solved with a simple conversation or a warning, saying "We don't allow this here, I know it's common for you but make us inconfortable". No need to ban, no need to xenofobic comments. He would never talk about that again and so be it. This is respect for other people cultures. We don't need to embrace it, but we can at least have an understanding, it's not his fault.

4- And don't get me wrong, I don't focus on Sally. I don't like Silver The Hedgehog as well, neither Charmy. I like Modern Sonic over Classic, I hate SA1 and SA2. It's simple a overall opinion.

And you are polite, so I take your word that was not a group attack. Sorry for any inconvinience. I didn't attacked your team, I just joked about Sally, the same I joke about Silver "Pothead" sometimes. I call him "oficial fancharacter", because his design is made like one. I didn't to troll, or to say bad things about your Team. I didn't even did to defend STF, because I believe each one should care about their own fights. Sorry if you taken it in a wrong way.

And good luck to your Team.
Blazeymix
5 years, 4 months ago
Well, neither of us will agree about Sally, that's fine by me. Thanks for being polite as well, I hope we can get past this misunderstanding and perhaps speak again on good terms. It's my mistake I assumed you spoke ill of the Team, normally I wouldn't bother with people flaming TA but in a topic that is very touchy, I felt it necessary to reply. I apologize too and I hope you have a good night/day.

Also I would like to PM you soon if that's okay, just a heads up. I'd like to get a better understanding of your point regarding STF.
NoPenNameGirl
5 years, 4 months ago
We are Sonic fans after all, so, by default, we never will agree 100% on something. =P.

But know, for you being polite, you are the first Sally fan that made me feel bad about I saying bad things about her. XD
And yes, those things happens with me from time to time. As you may see, I have very polemic opinions so I am used with that. No bad fellings, really.

Yes, PM me anytime. But, in my humble opinion, I think you guys had a cultural crash, simple like that.

Have a good night as well.
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
I'm glad you two aren't fighting, it bothers me when my friends argue or fight especially that I feel it's my fault :(
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
I'm glad you're not arguing anymore, I told you Pen is very nice and understanding, you two are alike in some ways, and sorry for any trouble I have caused :(

P.S. Still feeling like shit about the whole situation and nobody will talk to me apparently :(
ArcadiaCaptors714
5 years, 4 months ago
i hope you can let him join back some day
Blazeymix
5 years, 4 months ago
Might be sooner than we think. Maybe... It's a touchy subject, but trust me, I didn't want to let him go...
We'll see what happens.
ArcadiaCaptors714
5 years, 4 months ago
ok^^
Blitscreet
5 years, 4 months ago
I'm sorry but, I have never even read the comics but I know that Sally isn't a fan Character. I also know that Team Acorn is artists who specialize in Sonic style art, be them any character fan or original.

Also how in the heck did they start with a bad influence? They are artists, damned good ones at that, I don't see how they could have any negative influence.
NoPenNameGirl
5 years, 4 months ago
She is not copyright of Sega, she is not ackowlodged by Sega, Yuji Naka, Takashi IIzuka or any member of Sonic Team.

She is copyright of Archie Comics. [3]
PervyNerd84
5 years, 4 months ago
The character of Sally Acorn isn't a fan character, you might want to check your facts before making quips that make you sound like an uninformed moron or a troll.
NoPenNameGirl
5 years, 4 months ago
She is not copyright of Sega, she is not ackowlodged by Sega, Yuji Naka, Takashi IIzuka or any member of Sonic Team.

She is copyright of Archie Comics. [2]
Weltall84
5 years, 4 months ago
Fan character? She was created by Archie Comics with SEGA's involvement and blessing. Saying such ignorant things will only come to bite you in the ass as it opens up for Sonic fans to jump o you. Also Team Acorn is "Sonic Art" centric not just Sally Acorn, again it would benefit you to have your facts straight before opening your mouth.
NoPenNameGirl
5 years, 4 months ago
She is not copyright of Sega, she is not ackowlodged by Sega, Yuji Naka, Takashi IIzuka or any member of Sonic Team.

She is copyright of Archie Comics. So, I am not saying anything ignorant my friend.... you are.
Weltall84
5 years, 4 months ago
Team Acorn is about "Sonc Art" in general not just Sall Acorn, please get your facts straight.
NoPenNameGirl
5 years, 4 months ago
Also, I am Sonic Trivia Machine(I know every fact in deep) and have a Signed Cover Case of Sonic Adventure by Jun Senoe. My voice is on Sonic Generations because I screamed in the end of Sonic Boom "Happy Birthday, Sonic" along with the other people that was there.

So, I ask kindly, don't ever dare to test my "fan" status again, ok?
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thanks
Spikeybluehedgehoggirl
5 years, 4 months ago
I'm really sorry to hear that...
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thank you
Blazeymix
5 years, 4 months ago
I still wish you the best of luck, Stf
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thank you Sal I really could use it :(
HeattheDragon
5 years, 4 months ago
what was your job before? is it that hard to get a new one? and I would say you should move away from your family when you have so much trouble
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Which one, the one before or the current one? I now work as an Arabic teacher for non-Arabic speakers!
OppaiMaster
5 years, 4 months ago
I'm REALLY SORRY to hear that. I'll always be supporting you. I'll always support your artwork
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thank you my friend *hugs*
kalika12
5 years, 4 months ago
I do respect you,and many people do.Never give up to be happy!!!^^
sonictopfan
5 years, 4 months ago
Thank you so much this means a lot :')
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