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Loupy

MLP : FIM dream, comments and ponysona

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I had a dream last night that woke me up in the middle of the night. I was climbing for some contest a giant bamboo ladder, a few dozens meters high, who suddenly broke down so I was stuck on a pole unable to get higher or down.  I was picked up by Fluttershy being held by a rope by something, not sure what it was, but i think it was Rainbow Dash.

I guess I feel it's now time to tell peoples about Ponies and my point of view on the subject. I avoided watching this serie for a long time because of some peoples who call themselves brownies. What I most saw of those bronies was the constant harassing about the show, the flame if you disagreed with them and so on.

Now that the things has quiet down much, I can talk about it with less risk of having this journal ending in flames. Fiona made me discover a really enjoyable serie, with lots more than just cute characters. It had depts, it has scenario, consistency, nice songs and such. I quite enjoy it, and since season 2 (I'm at episode 10 of season 2) I really look forward to watching more episodes. At first, I disliked Rarity, Pinkie Pie and Applejack. Outside of Pinkie, they have grown on me, and we don't see as much Pinkie as we used to in season 2 and her ... annoying parts have been toned down so I'm fine really.

So I decided to make a character.
Adopted prince Nothing Special, an adopted quite removed nephew of Celestia, and he lives in Trottingham. White unicorn pony, with black hooves, mane and tail both made of orange and yellow, blue eyes with purple glasses. He is one year older than the Cutie Mark crusaders. He is usually wear a necktie and a green watch (to look older that he is) and a thick diaper (because he isn't an adult yet, and has problems with that), but he prefers wears a makeshift fake wings vest instead. He lacks self confidence and feel that he will never have a cutie mark. The why he tries to make himself special with pretending he his an allicorn male, or older than he is or whatever come through his mind to be someone else that he is.
http://s240.beta.photobucket.com/user/Loupy/media/wip/...

He lives with Logos, his baby dragon. Somewhat, he sound the most mature of them both, and double as a caretaker for the child pony. His name means in latin the act of speaking, and he is a chatterbox, but he is quite good at telling stories which sure make Nothing Special feel better about himself.
http://s240.beta.photobucket.com/user/Loupy/media/wip/...
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Added: 5 years, 7 months ago
 
saphronreth
5 years, 7 months ago
I think the thing is, most "bronies" are quite defensive precisely because it is what would normally (and publically) be considered the epitome of "girly-girl kid's shows", but has in fact turned out to have that depth, consistent world and general quality that you've seen for yourself.
If people criticize the show or their preferences without having even watched it, then of course they're going to feel like the person is being an idiot and needs to change their mind... even if that's the same view they had. They're defending the show vigorously because, as the saying goes, "there is no zealot like a convert". Having been convinced themselves, they are STRONGLY convinced.
Nobody's ever claimed that it's perfect, at least not seriously. But they have claimed it's very good ;)
Particularly, that the characters have flaws. It's tricky enough to write a flawed character in general-audience work (I'm sure you can think of main characters of quite a few blockbusters who don't seem to have any downsides, let alone in kid's shows), but every one of the cast has at least one kind of flaw - often major, and occasionally crippling until they've worked through it.
Oh, and the villains are actually serious and believable too. That's even harder. It's all too easy to make the antagonists either "just mistaken" and fixed at the end of the episode, or "just evil" and with no motivation. But Gilda (say) is someone it's easy to emphasize with. She's come to see an old friend of hers, and found they've grown apart - and that that friend has grown different, too. She's in the wrong overall (because she's a bit of a jerk), but their relationship is complicated and realistic, and it doesn't get "just fixed" - instead, they have a permanent and saddening break.
Loupy
5 years, 7 months ago
Zealots are bad peoples. You just show me most bronies aren't peoples I should talk to.
saphronreth
5 years, 7 months ago
...did you read it all? I'm using an analogy. I am not saying they're zealots, no. I'm saying that the same kind of reaction that makes people go from "death to protestants" to "death to catholics" in the late middle ages can also, in a much lesser sense, make someone go from being strongly opposed to a show to being strongly supportive of it - simply because it takes strong evidence for the person to be convinced to change their mind.

I'm pointing out that, if someone makes derogatory remarks about a show they have not watched, then they ARE in the wrong unless there's a VERY good reason to dismiss the claims of the person who HAS watched it.
I'd be right to be annoyed with someone who said, say... "Terry Pratchett wrote bad jokes" if they've not actually read the books. You'd be right to be annoyed if someone insulted a show you like without ever watching it. And they are right to be annoyed if someone criticizes FiM without basing that opinion on anything more than a years-old memory of watching a previous version of the show.
What can cause people to be MORE vehement is if they keep getting the same opinion aired over and over again. If there were criticisms of something you liked all over the place, and they all had the same fundamental error (in this case not watching the show itself), then you would end up short tempered if it happened again. It IS a mistake, but they're only human.
Loupy
5 years, 7 months ago
I did read it all. It's a show. I find defending it like it's a human right is a bit scary.
saphronreth
5 years, 7 months ago
If you can give me examples of the kind of thing you're talking about, that'd help.
Loupy
5 years, 7 months ago
*point to your texts*
saphronreth
5 years, 7 months ago
No, I don't find an example there of where I've considered it "a human right". I've analogized with more extreme situations to demonstrate how the human mind works. Aside from that, well, I'm trying to explain why people think what they do.
PeachClover
5 years, 6 months ago
A little over a year ago, I had said something along the lines of:
You know when you are at a con watching Tiny Toon Adventures in the video room, and wish you and everyone there could be watching it together for the first time new?  That's what My Little Pony is for us right now: a Furry cartoon that will be remembered here and now in the present, still being made.

I don't remember how or why, but I suggested that you watch it, and you said basically it was too popular to be good.  Now that you, yourself, have become a fan of the show, I hope you can see that I really did suggest it to you because I thought you would enjoy it, and not because it was popular.  

The next time someone asks you to try something, please look back upon this, and let it help you give that new something a chance.
Loupy
5 years, 6 months ago
My answer wasn't it's too popular to be good. My answer was "I don't want to be seen watching it because of peer pressure, I wanted to be on my own accord. I also didn't liked the over the top reaction of those calling themselves brownies, with who i wanted no association." So now that the hip has gone down, I can watch it with less risks of unpleasant comments on my journals. Still had some.
PeachClover
5 years, 6 months ago
It's bronies not brownies.
When I was 13, classmates took jabs at me for openly enjoying pokemon and even then I thought they were acting childish.  I'm sorry to say this, but it is pathetic that at your age you are still afraid of having other people disapprove of what you watch or do.  
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