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ButtercupSaiyan

Hurrah, a site stealing our stuff

As noticed here: https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=71437

FurryMax.com is using the art without personal responsibility.

Apparently I'm in their section too. Funny, me and
GamiCross
GamiCross
aren't getting a dime either. I was hired by them and I didn't even know it!

Takedown will be tricky... suggestions are welcome.
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Added: 5 years, 9 months ago
 
FlyingFox
5 years, 9 months ago
how do you find out if you are on the site?
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 9 months ago
By having a friend who signed up for it then noticed some ... discrepancies.
Saglinger
5 years, 9 months ago
I remember pay site that had similar issues.  I recognized the art, pointed out to several artists their work was being used on a pay site without their consent.  None of them seemed to care.

<EDIT>
Just commenting on those particular artists, not artists in general.
<EDIT EDIT>
Same server, actually.  Adult Empire seems to be chock full of stolen artwork.
Kolo
5 years, 9 months ago
DDoS
They're breaking the law, let's break them.
KevinSnowpaw
5 years, 9 months ago
god fucking damn it DX
soina
5 years, 9 months ago
threaten them with legal action if they don't take it down
trashbunny
5 years, 9 months ago
Could be difficult. After doing some clickery-click style research, I found out that they're Adult Empire is probably a Russian company. Web sites like this seem to be part of some kind of referral program scheme where people make a web site linking to Adult Empire-owned sites. Just hover the links on the link in the OP or click them.
arkthebear
5 years, 9 months ago
West Indies, actually. Though if they set it up smart the paper trail probably runs everywhere.
eXcito
5 years, 9 months ago
Send a takedown notice to their host. If they're doing something illegal, which they are, the host will cut off their hosting if they don't take down the stolen content, unless they do the hosting themselves.
Do a whois lookup on furrymax.com.
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 9 months ago
I did: http://who.is/whois/furrymax.com/

Can you get anything useful off of here?
trashbunny
5 years, 9 months ago
That won't give you information about the host, but just the domain owner. You have to look up the company who owns the IP address block to get an idea who to get in touch with for a takedown request. Looking at said data, you can see that the registrar of the domain also owns web space at eNOM as the domain's bound to one of eNOM's static IP addresses.

However, the domain owner's not really the real culprit. The web site hosted on said eNOM server only is a bit of a "placeholder" as the actual web site you see is loaded using the <frame> HTML tag. The tag's src attribute links to a path on the domain www.actionvideopictures.com, which is owned by the same person. However, the address info is different.

If you look at that web site, you can see that the pictures are unfortunately hosted on Adult Empire servers, so it can be tough getting those things down. Nevertheless you could probably still try to get in touch with the company hosting the data of www.actionvideopictures.com's web site. The name of it is iWeb, and the possible name of the web space owner's listed here. If I look up the handle that's listed there, I get this info.  Some Indian guy seems to be owning this.

Makes you skeptical of that domain info.
eXcito
5 years, 9 months ago
In that case as BTBunny said below, it's a fated circle. I have seen this happen not only with furry content but just any hentai content, I've even encountered some of my pictures a couple times but didn't bother.
Makes me wonder though who would sign up for these sites? Do they still make money out of this scam?
trashbunny
5 years, 9 months ago
Obviously enough that they can offer a referral program to people who host those copyright infringing referral web sites.
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 9 months ago
Yes, people actually do pay for porn, lol.

It's just as content creators, we go through the valid channels and we forget about things like this. And I'm bothering this time. They got me on a bad day when I can't seem to get enough votes for my artbook on Offbeatr.
eXcito
5 years, 9 months ago
Yeah, I know people pay for porn, just these of pages do not seem like the kind you'd like to show your wallet to them...
caramelthecalf
5 years, 9 months ago
What they're doing is so dishonest, adfjsdfkl jwerfljsfl DX DX
slightlyshade
5 years, 9 months ago
If you want, I can send you the owner's phone number or address. If the polite 'please take this down' attempts don't work, and the hosting service is equally unresponsive, taking the communication to a more personal level can do the trick. A friend of mine has gotten a whole lot more luck this route when dealing with scammy internet stores.
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 9 months ago
Please do send a PM to me.
arkthebear
5 years, 9 months ago
It's really easy to register a domain without handing over personal/business details. I've done so myself. If there are details it's usually some proxy company and it's unlikely you'll ever get anything from them.
slightlyshade
5 years, 9 months ago
That's possible, yes. I was thinking it might be the case here, as they are linked to a lot of domains. There are always people along the way who can do something though. Not saying they will, naturally. :/
BTBunny
5 years, 9 months ago
Won't do much good. The address points to a residence, and the residence is vacant. Considering that this is yet another Adult Empire site, I'm not surprised by this. This has happened in the past, and they respond to DMCAs by taking down the website for a while, then putting it back up under another name.
slightlyshade
5 years, 9 months ago
Ah, that's that then. :/
trashbunny
5 years, 9 months ago
Linky. Is this any better?
KevinSnowpaw
5 years, 9 months ago
I want to make it formaly known that any art done for me, is of corse, posted without the permission of Either ME or the origenal artist as that is largly camissioned work i paid for there violateing my rights as much as the artists. I cant see if my stuff is there but i DID see cub work. I dont want my charicter makeing some ass hole money on a smut site please help me take this site down X3
ObZen
5 years, 9 months ago
This shit is deplorable. Anything I'd suggest has already been said, so I just hope you're able to get something out of this as it does sound like it may be tricky due to how the site works. Good luck with it.
BTBunny
5 years, 9 months ago
It's yet another Adult Empire site. They've been doing this since the late 90's. File a DMCA, and the website disappears for a while. Then give it about 3-4 months, and another one will show up again.
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 9 months ago
Figures...
ZJamesCampbell
5 years, 9 months ago
Seriously?!  ...wow the Russians really kept that stereotype around for years didn't they?  I wish I could help but I'm clueless on internet laws.  Let us know in another journal on how it goes BCS.
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 9 months ago
I don't think there's anything I can do, I didn't exactly get a reply to the email I sent.
ShadowsInc
5 years, 9 months ago
Tell me if I'm on it. I severely doubt that I am, since my art isn't that great and none of it is colored, and only some of it is inked, but I'll help somehow if I can.
ShadowsInc
5 years, 9 months ago
You should tell MarmaladeJane, https://inkbunny.net/MarmaladeJane
I was looking at some of the site samples, and a LOT of their work is being used.
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 9 months ago
I notified him. Maybe together we can all send this site to hell where it belongs.
GABUJOE
5 years, 9 months ago
that site has art of mine too! well, if ytour art is a target for cheaters...then you are doing something right, it still sucks...but it´s flattering...in a very illegal, cheat way.
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 9 months ago
It's like a bunch of user's art here and on FA got stolen.
Saglinger
5 years, 9 months ago
The other artists I've seen and actually recognized on the their collections(hell even on their 'free tour' pages), are the rather infamous Jay Naylor, and Bewildered Art(Wilde Home for Wayward Catgirls).  I think I actually saw one of Scribblekid's pieces..  I actually signed up for one of their sites once(I should have demanded a refund, such a rip-off).

But yeah, it seems like every single animation site hosted by adult-empire.com is entirely populated by stolen artwork.  Especially the furry art sites.
Saglinger
5 years, 9 months ago
I actually found one artist on FurAffinity(Bagheera) because one of the AE websites actually left the watermark intact.  I informed the artist.  Said artist was surprised as they had never actually given permission for their art to be on the pay site.
Saglinger
5 years, 9 months ago
I mean hell, look at this page! http://sites1.adult-empire.com/7095/  bbmbbf's fursona's right on the front page.
JaceFox
5 years, 9 months ago
I'll notify bbmbbf.
Saglinger
5 years, 9 months ago
I actually sent him a PM last night.
tsunderelightning
5 years, 9 months ago
Oh, Christ.  Good luck with the takedown efforts.
Incaros
5 years, 9 months ago
Big Business can shut down review sites with no warning and no trial. Yet artist can't do much about sites like this. Good work Congress.
JaceFox
5 years, 9 months ago
people will do anything to turn a profit, even if it means killing the artists whose work they stole... Is there any wonder my faith in humanity is gone?
Nerevar
5 years, 9 months ago
I'd be happy. It's a sign that your art is good enough to be stolen ;)
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 9 months ago
Thanks for letting me know I should be happy to have my art stolen by a paysite when I'm barely able to pay bills..............
Nerevar
5 years, 9 months ago
It has already happened so why not to try to look on the brighter side of things? Even if you took it down another ones will pop in the future, it's inevitable. Anyway, I wish you luck in taking it down, just don't get too stressed about it - it's not worth it ;)
PrinceLeon
5 years, 9 months ago
sorry to hear that someone is stealing your art
Talbotlynx
5 years, 9 months ago
Comic book legal defense fund might be able to help. They've gone after sites like this before.
cbldf.org/
Shokuji
5 years, 9 months ago
I guess artists should release their art with large watermarks on their stuff so this kind of thing doesn't happen.
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 9 months ago
Nah, that just ruins the art.
Shokuji
5 years, 9 months ago
I agree, but I understood why artists do that.
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 9 months ago
It's pointless because they can just filter it out or Photoshop it out anyway.
Shokuji
5 years, 9 months ago
But that takes work, and these people are pretty lazy most of the time. That's why they're stealing other people's artwork rather than making it themselves.
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