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Norithics

Streams -AND- Weasyl

Okay, so here's the scoop on streams. I'm gonna do them on the weekends, hopefully two at a time. I'll probably only have one day to do so, and thus, it'll be a lot more slow-going than it was before. Now, people who've been on my waiting list forever deserve their shake by now, so they're taking priority. But just so it doesn't turn into everyone feeling it's inaccessible, I've come up with another gimmick for it: I'll be doing one from the old list, and randomly selecting somebody from the new list to have a turn as well. Here's the Master List; it'll get updated as stuff happens, and you can always refer back to it to find out what I'm up to. This does mean that should you want a spot on the list, you will have to tell me what you want ahead of time? Good? Cool.

In also-furry-related news, I've been noticing a good number of people here either sharing a profile or jumping ship to Weasyl. For all of an hour at a time, I've considered going myself, but... ugggh. Three things.

1. Having two accounts to upload and tend to is just tiring. Back when I was younger, doing DeviantArt and FA, or FA and IB was fine, but... I just don't know. It feels like I'd be serving two masters, or really underserving one.
2. They don't allow underage characters. They are up front about it, and thus far I haven't heard anything bad about the moderation per se, but I still just see myself probably being in the center of conflict again. Weasyl seems to increasingly be a place for people who hate cub art just a little bit more than they hate Dragoneer- and that crowd wasn't particularly scintillating to me the first time.
3. I really don't think there's a demand for me over there. At least not yet, anyway, and for being "The Cub Site," Inkbunny has been incredibly receptive to me. For admitting to being an alternative for a different demographic, I really can't complain about them humbly giving me webspace and a consistent place in the Popular section (though that does me feel a bit self-conscious). And I do find it ironic that the place that's meant for cubs has been nicer to me than the place meant for everything else, despite so little of what I do being noticeably underage.

So yeah. I mean, I guess maybe Weasyl isn't completely and totally out of the question, but I've got a lot of grump to get over before I'd want to take part.
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Added: 5 years, 5 months ago
 
Kuto
5 years, 5 months ago
interesting idea's here. though i wouldn't say weasyl is for cub haters. keep in mind cub is illegal in the us including just hosting a site that allows it. But i can definitely understand having a hard time managing many accounts at once. Heck i manage about 5, its hard work to deal with.
Norithics
5 years, 5 months ago
"keep in mind cub is illegal in the us"

This is an echo-chamber idea that's completely mistaken and just keeps getting repeated. Cub porn is not illegal, the arguments in that law were defeated, and are precedent now.
Kuto
5 years, 5 months ago
are they? when did this happen?
Lamia
5 years, 5 months ago
by strict definitions of the law no cub porn is illegal unless it's legally deemed obscene, which no one would really bother to do
Kuto
5 years, 5 months ago
i just remember it was illegal regardless whether there animals they were still children
Lamia
5 years, 5 months ago
the law only covers minors, which are defined as people, which people are defined as humans in the law, not to mention the whole fictional thing

at the very worst, porny art of underage humans can technically be deemed against the law, but noone's been convicted of that on its own, only tacked on to real child porn charges
Kuto
5 years, 5 months ago
true im just afraid if i draw anything like that ill go to jail. when looking at it in terms of fiction, even then its pushing it. It's odvoisly a touchy subject considering how many people respounded to what i said that quickly
Zarpaulus
5 years, 5 months ago
Drawings of underage characters in sexual situations aren't considered child pornography in the U.S., though some officials might not know the difference.  I think Canada and Australia have banned hentai though.
Kuto
5 years, 5 months ago
it seems Australia and Canada always seem to go the extreme with everything such as banning mortal combat over there.
TheLunatic25
5 years, 5 months ago
what law is this, Nori? I do so wish to arm myself with knowledge. o3o
Norithics
5 years, 5 months ago
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-795.ZS.html

It was a court decision. I'll cut out the relevant parts for those who hate mucking through legalese:

"§2256(8)(B), and any sexually explicit image that is “advertised, promoted, presented, described, or distributed in such a manner that conveys the impression” it depicts “a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct,” §2256(8)(D). Thus, §2256(8)(B) bans a range of sexually explicit images, sometimes called “virtual child pornography,” that appear to depict minors but were produced by means other than using real children, such as through the use of youthful-looking adults or computer-imaging technology."

"Held: The prohibitions of §§2256(8)(B) and 2256(8)(D) are overbroad and unconstitutional. Pp. 6—21."
TheLunatic25
5 years, 5 months ago
Nice, thank you for cutting out some of the fat.
Danund81
5 years, 5 months ago
This has been enlightening.
ScottyKat
5 years, 5 months ago
can you still ask to get on the list?
Norithics
5 years, 5 months ago
Yep! Sure can.
ScottyKat
5 years, 5 months ago
sweet =3
Lamia
5 years, 5 months ago
I've used weasyl, and a problem I have with it is that the interface is like an unrefined deviantart... another thing that bugs me is how many extra clicks you need in order to do stuff like submitting things or removing notices
Norithics
5 years, 5 months ago
Ooh, that's a turn off. Little quality-of-life stuff like that can add up fast.
GeckosFancies
5 years, 5 months ago
What Nori said; Thanks for that warning.
ShaneLaFleur
5 years, 5 months ago
Probably wayy down on that list but I don't mind the wait :)
Alfador
5 years, 5 months ago
I just got a Weasyl account to squat on my username; I already "left" FurAffinity ages ago for Inkbunny. The only reason I still log in there is because there continue to be artists for me to watch there. I don't post anything, no journals, no favorites... only a few comments here and there, and I try to be strict about making any comments on Inkbunny whenever an artist posts the same art on both sites.
Milkie
5 years, 5 months ago
Ohh, I'm not on "the old list?" I recall my name coming, but never being able to be around to get one!

Multiple accounts on multiple sites is fine, I think. I make it pretty clear that FA is my main go-to for this stuff, and should that ever change, I have other sites to fall back on. I update my IB and Weasyl when I feel like it!
Flexible
5 years, 5 months ago
Stay put here. <3
ColeSutra
5 years, 5 months ago
D: I'm not on the old list?  I coulda sworn I was.. Oh well..  Slap me on the new list, please!
TheLunatic25
5 years, 5 months ago
Okay, so I want to clarify. WE can get put on the list, do we have to give you the idea first to be 'on' the list, or can we get on the list then when our turn comes up give you the idea?

I just want to make sure I know how this system is working. :)
Norithics
5 years, 5 months ago
The former!
PonderousPlatypus
5 years, 5 months ago
Unless I'm horribly mistaken, the old list is NOT the stream list he's been doing until now. It's the people who lined up for commissions from him outside of the stream process. So people who were on the stream list who are wondering why they're not in the old section, it's because it's a different, older list. The stream list got wiped, so you have to line up again in this new section.

But I might be all wrong about that, haha.
Norithics
5 years, 5 months ago
Nope, totally right!
Eviscerator
5 years, 5 months ago
Weird, I've been waiting for nonstream commissions for a bit too.
Milkie
5 years, 5 months ago
Oh, it got wiped? Damnit. Y'know I'd've gotten something done if I didn't work this stupid job of mine. D:
Nightdrifter
5 years, 5 months ago
When I have an idea that's right up your ally I'll be sure to come here.

Think I could come to you for suggestions sometime? :3 Perhaps help me with an idea?
threyon
5 years, 5 months ago
You're a grump?
Eviscerator
5 years, 5 months ago
Oh, so we can get on the new list now? Yes please!
SkyeEldrich
5 years, 5 months ago
Count me in on the new list.... and I'm not going to Weasyl for EXACTLY the same reason you aren't. ^^;
PonderousPlatypus
5 years, 5 months ago
I suppose I should figure out my idea, then, since I'm on the new list!
Treforce
5 years, 5 months ago
So many replies, so little read.
GeckosFancies
5 years, 5 months ago
Considering that I already have this account, one on dA and one on SoFurry to keep track of (been neglecting that last one, too) I think Weasyl would only be interesting as an alternative to FA... Which of course is a point of sorts. Same restrictions, but not the same mods, could be an idea.
Then again I don't feel the urgent need... Not sure it's a good channel for my stuff at all :p
Shokuji
5 years, 5 months ago
I'm pretty much going to use it strictly for business. Not going to watch anyone, not going to browse the site for art, just post examples of things I can do commission wise. Maybe it will make me some money some day, other than that I don't care about it. [shrugs]
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