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Whippy

fuck i want to strangle windows right now

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I just got started on another attempt at a comish sketch I've put off too long. The sketch was going great. Then Windows bugs me about some updates, I click OK, and it's busy downloading and continue drawing. After a few minutes it pops up a dialog box right over top of everything, it's "asking" me if i wanna restart. So I click the TITLEBAR to move the window out of the way and try to alt-tab back to SAI. Next thing I know it's closing every fucking program without even asking me >_<. Sketch is completely gone.

I restarted SAI immediately after that and hastily sketched out the basic poses I had again. Argh!! This shit is making me wanna switch to a different drawing program or OS altogeather!!!
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Added: 5 years, 8 months ago
 
OOOeyGoooey
5 years, 8 months ago
yeah, that happens if you dont click it to postpone and bug you in 4 hours, shoulda done that |3;; its happened to me too

that or save and restart, lol updates dont take too long :V
Whippy
5 years, 8 months ago
I'll remember that if there is a next time. *disables the service* XD
Shippo
5 years, 8 months ago
Thats what I have done I have disabled the automatic update I have it where it will download the updates but I choose when to install them :D
WhyteYote
5 years, 8 months ago
Even if I postpone it, I only get a few times.  Eventually I'll open my laptop and it will force-quit by itself because I put it off too long.
OOOeyGoooey
5 years, 8 months ago
interesting, its never done that for me, popped up a notice and i kept postponing o.o
soggymaster
5 years, 8 months ago
... and this is precisely why I have Windows simply notify me when updates are ready.

Wait.. isn't that how you have it set up as well?
Whippy
5 years, 8 months ago
Yep. Seriously thinking about changing it now. Before I had to reinstall around  Christmas, I had windows update  completely disabled.
DraculJOSHI
5 years, 8 months ago
If you don't answer it, it will do that. You have to tell it to remind you in 4 hours to continue what you are doing.

also, Ctrl + S is your friend.
Whippy
5 years, 8 months ago
It does that by default if you don't happen to push the button in time!!!??? WTF!!! That's stupid!!!  I'm going to disable that damn service right now >.<
And I usually do CTRL+S. Luckily it's only 6 minutes worth of sketching lost.
DraculJOSHI
5 years, 8 months ago
well, it gives you 1-2 minutes to do it... it's plenty of enough time.
InfamousMustelid
5 years, 8 months ago
This is the worst shit that can happen to an artist. Haven't  happened to me yet though, luckily. I always delay the restart.
And this brings up the most important rule once again, ALWAYS SAVE OFTEN! :P
Whippy
5 years, 8 months ago
Yeah, ^^; and important rule #2 disable windows update service lol.
InfamousMustelid
5 years, 8 months ago
indeed, lesson learned :P
*pets bunbun* I hope you can still make the drawing alright after all that crap. :)
Whippy
5 years, 8 months ago
Yeah, it made me pretty pissed off, as well as determined. *draws more*
BunnyFoxglove
5 years, 8 months ago
I feel your pain... if you're playing a game in fullscreen mode you don't see the notice. Then BAM right in the middle of your game everything closes and you're like "WTF?!?!?!"

GG pwned by windows.
Liquidhalo231
5 years, 8 months ago
Just disable windows updates, as long as you have a good anti-virus they are not important
Norithics
5 years, 8 months ago
I've never understood why it can't just be an 'install the next time you restart' deal. Honestly.
FlyingFox
5 years, 8 months ago
I have my setup to install updates upon closing the computer. Havent had a promt like yours in forever.
Whippy
5 years, 8 months ago
When you close the computer? Hmm...I didn't know it had that option.
SenGrisane
5 years, 8 months ago
That's why I almost always save every few mins... or seconds... getting paranoid <.<
McDutt
5 years, 8 months ago
You should write an autosave program!
Orcinus
5 years, 8 months ago
Perhaps you should have paid more attention to the dialog box. It would have said something along the lines of "Windows will restart automatically in 10 minutes." There is also an option in the same dialog box to restart now, or to postpone it for up to 4 hours, at which point it will give you another 10 minute warning.
Whippy
5 years, 8 months ago
Well I read part of the dialog box and intended to click one of those buttons, but I never did. All I did was click the title bar of the window to move it out of my way and go into SAI to save what I had. I didn't know it was actually going to monitor where I was clicking and give me a strict time limit or one choice only.
placeholder12
5 years, 8 months ago
The first Windows update this computer ever got locked me out of my computer and I had to backdoor in and revert back to before the update. Apparently, it was a little buggy. Ever since, I've never let Windows do anything without my express permission. Vista sucks ASS.
xpanther
5 years, 8 months ago
if you had of said no to the restart, it would have delayed it an hour then another popup in an hour would have hassled you to restart which you could have delayed again.
JeffyCottonbun
5 years, 8 months ago
CTRL+S every 5 minutes is your friend >.<
fluffdance
5 years, 8 months ago
Whippy
5 years, 8 months ago
Nope, running 7 ultimate
fluffdance
5 years, 8 months ago
Buh?  I'd have sworn AutoRestart was no longer an option past XP...  Blah.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windo...  Pretty much the same procedure, apparently.
Whippy
5 years, 8 months ago
Ah, found it with gpedit. Thanks ^.^
There were these 3 things that I changed:
No auto-restart with logged on user for scheduled automatic update installations
Re-prompt for restart with scheduled installations
Delay Restart for scheduled installations

Ug, I feel sorry for the people at Microsoft who had to type out this silly crap.
fluffdance
5 years, 8 months ago
Merf.  I can't believe it still even -works- that way to begin with.  Must be one of those highlighted insects--Er, feature-bugs...  
Whippy
5 years, 8 months ago
I know, it doesn't make much sense the way they made is so obscure and hard to find. Most common users probably wouldn't want to change it out of fear of screwing up their system somehow or wouldn't even know the command to type in the run box. I don't think people *should have* to know those commands anyway! Windows is GUI driven, with most options presented to you visually, even if you have to dig around a lil bit in a menu.  
fluffdance
5 years, 8 months ago
Even just having the thing auto-reboot with no regard for open programs.  It's really silly.  
tannim
5 years, 8 months ago
you may want to make an automatic autohotkey script.  One that automatically saves your picture to a new file every 1 to 2 minutes.  Why a new file each time? in case you want to go back.  It could eat up hard drive space though and may interrupt your drawing too
Whippy
5 years, 8 months ago
I can do that pretty easily. The truth is, in this case the sketch was literally 5 minutes old XD. I usually save every 10 minutes or so anyway :P
FoxWolfie
5 years, 8 months ago
Mine has never rebooted on an update notification, unless I actually hit the restart button. This morning's update was particularly annoying though. Normally, if I click the "Not Now" button, it waits about a half hour before asking again.  This morning, it asked about once every two to three minutes. I was trying to write a reply to someone, and kept looking up to realize that my typing was being ignored because that darned restart prompt popped up again.  Once I finished replying though, I let it restart so it would stop annoying me.  I see some people mentioned it waiting for four hours between asking.  I've never had it wait that long.  I always figured the interval was set by the updater, based on the severity of the updates, and there lots of them this time.  Instead of just one or two, there was nearly a dozen.
MichaelJBear
5 years, 8 months ago
Oooppss... yeah.... know what you mean... I put my option on Asking Before Downloading... it allow me to save my stuff... then I download the "/$!&(%?& upgrade....  When I see that ''pop-up'' appear I dont take chance anymore... I rather save...
Rally
5 years, 8 months ago
This is why I disabled Windows Update altogether.
ForeRest
5 years, 8 months ago
That's why I have automatic updates OFF
RedReynart
5 years, 8 months ago
go to Start>Settings>Control Panel>Windows Update. And disable it. Problem solved.
KichigaiKitsune
5 years, 8 months ago
Yeah, that's caused me some seeeeerious headaches in the past. My favorite times have to be when I was hosting a game server, and my machine randomly rebooted (I didn't even see the dialog window, because I had a full-screen game going!).

The general rule is that you should have Windows Updates at least download the updates and notify you, if not install immediately, but most desktop machines don't run many super vulnerable services (looking your way, IIS...), so keeping right on the bleeding edge of updates isn't exactly crucial. Feel free to disable it, it's not as important as just common sense browsing habits and a nice antivirus.
But yes, if it receives no input, Windows will restart automatically after installing updates. Much fun. It pissed me off something chronic when I got this new laptop.

I also use GNU/Linux and FreeBSD more or less exclusively now, so this inconvenience is mostly a thing of the past for me. You asked about livestreaming and art programs, and I have to admit I don't know much about that side of things. Definitely do as Systfur says and try running your favorite programs through WINE; and I'm not sure if the OS matters too much when streaming. It's not like it costs you anything to try! :D

Aaaand obligatory: "Macs are good for graphic design and stuff!" Not a Mac fan, but they are pretty stable, and I've never heard of someone being annoyed at OS X updates. Except that probably will cost you.
trashbunny
5 years, 8 months ago
MyPaint is a good multiplatform SAI alternative. I'm not sure whether pen input works via WINE, so I'd go with that first. It's pretty cool and actual illustrators use it.
NonnyFox
5 years, 8 months ago
I was going to say just remember to keep Microsoft Updates disabled but I see that it was already mentioned in the comments and even mentioned by you

I used to allow the updates but they caused me blue screens so I uninstalled the updates and keep the updates disabled. Haven't had any blue screens since.
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