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BunnyFoxglove

What did I miss?

Okay so today I saw one of those auctions going on... it's currently up to a total of $100. That doesn't surprise me too much for a 2 character pic, except that upon reading it, the pic is only a LINE ART!

Really? $100 for a line art? Okay, so a professional piece would probably cost more, but you are also paying for other rights and such with those as well. Now, I don't care that people are willing to pay these prices, it's cool. I support artists when I can, but damn.... somehow I find this a little overkill. This artists full color commissions don't even run that much for 2 characters.

Sometimes I think people just get wrapped up in the excitement of the bids, and go overboard. Or they just like to look special or something. I don't know the exact reasons, and I really don't care. I just think this is the reason some artists switch to auctions instead of regular commissions. I don't blame them for it, if people are willing to pay it, but at what point are you just over-paying for a piece of digital art?
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Added: 5 years, 6 months ago
 
CodieCub
5 years, 6 months ago
if it was a hand made pic that someone put a lot of time and effort into id pay the royale sum of over "X" ammount dollars.
(i don't think paying someone who abuses photoshop or sai ((which btw you dont have to pay for pens, brushes, inks, ect..)) is a good idea because the only thing they did was take a few hours ((if they are very anal about their art)) to do it)
But that is my personal opinion, I'm willing to pay more if I get to watch it be done and get to dictate the way it looks and if I get tot have a full sized paper copy of the digital art sent by the artist (yes i know i could print it but if i have no ability to get to a printer or something happens like a hardrive wipe i wouldnt be able to) Which brings up my next point, you can preserve a hand done pic via frames, plastic sleeves, covers, but not digital and all accounts on the internet face a potential closing of the site orbanning of the account, so if you don't have that irl pic then it's gone for good unless you can track it down.
I support artists when they need to buy supplies or pay for important sundries and such, not so that they cam get new toys or go to a con, unless they say 'going to a con who wants to help?' then i might consider it.
I'm so sorry to have done this.... ono I just uhm... Wanted to say something I've held in for a long long time?
BunnyFoxglove
5 years, 6 months ago
lol, remember you pay for things based on quality and time. For instance, if I write a website and it takes 20hrs. I get paid 20hrs x Hourly wage. Same sort of applies with art. Regardless of the media it's done with, you're still paying for the artists time.

That being said, I don't think a line art piece is worth that much just for the right to display it on your IB page. Do you know what I mean? It's not like you can turn around and re-sell the image, because you don't actually own the rights to it. Where as when you purchase a piece from an artist IRL, you do own the image. That is why you pay so much for it.

If the line art takes them 5hrs to complete, and they charge $100 that's $20hr. So you need to ask yourself, is it worth that, and does it actually take that long for them?

This is how I judge whether it's worth commissioning an artist, and how much I'm willing to pay.
CodieCub
5 years, 6 months ago
I like that, i fogort that it is an hourly pay my bad, although I've seen artists do slave streams and charge people 100-150 an hour and held them for no less than 5 hours, and all the customer got was maybe 2 line arts and a chibi pic that was half-assedly colored (by that i mean there are litteral pocks where it wouldnt have taken someone no more than 1 second to go over it) but yes i do get the hourly wage thing and it os a factor, but that is why I'd rather commission a person with flat rates than a person who says 'depends on how long it takes depends on how much you pay'.... so i guess i am a bad person who doesnt support people who make art their career instead i support half timers ono;;
BunnyFoxglove
5 years, 6 months ago
I very rarely ever pay by the hour. Almost always flat rates, but even then I have to ask myself if I think it's worth it. Like for instance Lando does pics that look like CGI with real fur, and that starts around $150+ (maybe more, I'm not sure). That stuff takes forever to make, and is certainly worth the money when you see him painstakingly draw every single hair by hand. Granted he does this as a living, but even with just doing it as a pass-time I judge based on the same factors.

You get what you pay for most times. In some cases you can get a real good deal as well (most of the art in my gallery is proof of that XD). I guess this is more of a heads up to  people, to make sure you're not just throwing money away on a name.
CodieCub
5 years, 6 months ago
Also auctions have a bad habbit of getting high rollers who cant/wont pay and the artist has to go down the line until someone can pay and the total is just a little more than a regular submission so it is a lot of stress on the auctioneer
BunnyFoxglove
5 years, 6 months ago
I don't actually believe that's true in most cases. A lot of the high rollers I've seen bidding on IB are the same few people, and they're always good for paying what they bid.
CodieCub
5 years, 6 months ago
right its FA that has that because it is a troll cesspool
octamous
5 years, 6 months ago
Some people are wealthy and have no problem laying down money to support an artist. With 200k invested what's a $100? Just trading fees on the stock market can add up to more than that. Historically artists have been supported by wealthy patrons, especially kings and queens who wished to preserve their culture. They didn't just pay for the work done and the materials but also all the artist's living expenses so they could continue on with their studies.

When people pay high prices for digital art, it's usually because they want to support the artist not because the work itself is worth that much. Few people support artists for nothing in return though, so auctions remain the most viable way to get support from one's wealthiest patrons.
BunnyFoxglove
5 years, 6 months ago
My only real issue is just that I've seen a lot of artists turn to just auctions as their only source of commissions. Ultimately I don't blame them when people are willing to shell out that kind of money consistently. It just means people like myself can't afford it. I'm not poor, but I won't over pay unless there's a legitimate reason.

Lately I've seen more and more artists making it clear they've lost their drive to make art in the fandom because they enjoy it. And it's now strictly about the money. It makes me a little sad. Most of these artists also have a job, then come home and do these commissions. It makes me wonder how much support they really need, or is it just wanting more money to buy an ipad sorta deal.
octamous
5 years, 6 months ago
People can tell though that's the thing, even if it takes awhile. They're not going to give much support to someone who puts no love into their work, keeps to themselves, and then demands the highest dollar. There's an artist who switched to auctions only and got over $300 for them for awhile, but now they don't even make it to $50. They've completely lost their spark.

On the other hand, artists like Slugbox get huge amounts of support because he goes out and buys his own printers for making prints, creates pillows, creates comics—basically spends a good part of the money he makes towards creating more art. And he still makes the time for flat rate commissions and to chat with fans. People recognize that and want to help.
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