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VibrantEchoes

In Response to the Gen VI Complaints...

Some common complaints I seem to be seeing about Gen VI include it being on the 3DS, which I guess no one in the world but me already has/had, the Gen VI games being made instead of R/S remakes, and of course, the usual groundless “these Pokemon look stupid” complaints. I can kind of understand most of that, but here's another one that really bugs me.

One of the main complaints I seem to be seeing about Gen VI is that it's being released too early, and that there should have been more time in between it and Gen V.

Um... really??? It will have been about 3 years between the release of B/W and X/Y. Does it REALLY take anyone 3 years to beat a Pokemon game, or even 2 Pokemon games??? That's even more than the time between releases of some other generations!

I'll prove it. Here are all the original Japanese release dates for each main series set of Pokemon games.

Red and Green: February 27, 1996

Gold and Silver: November 21, 1999

Ruby and Sapphire: November 21, 2002

Diamond and Pearl: September 28, 2006

Black and White: September 18, 2010

X and Y: October 2013


That's roughly 3.5 years between gens I and II, 3 between II and III, 3.8 between III and IV, 4 between IV and V, and finally, about 3 between V and VI. Not a significant difference.

We North American fans have even less of a reason to complain. Look at OUR release dates.

Red and Blue: September 30, 1998

Gold and Silver: October 15, 2000

Ruby and Sapphire: March 19, 2003

Diamond and Pearl: April 22, 2007

Black and White: March 6, 2011

X and Y: October 2013

That's basically 2 years between I and II, 2.5 between II and III, 4 between III and IV, another 4 between IV and V, and about 2.7 between V and VI.

Now, when they released gens II and III so close to their respective previous gens, how many of you complained that they were going too fast? Probably not that many, because at that time you were most likely more in touch with the series than you are now that you're older and making less of an effort to keep up. In gaming, a difference of about 2-4 years between sequels is standard, looking at many series. If that's too fast for you, then it's not Nintendo's fault, it's yours. It does NOT take 3 years to beat a Pokemon game unless it's somehow way too difficult for you, something forces you to go on a long hiatus of playing (a broken DS, for example), or you're just not trying. Sorry.

As for the complaints about the system choice... how does this surprise anyone? The 3DS wasn't selling and Nintendo had to fix it somehow. Besides, a lifespan of 5 or so years of Pokemon games is pretty standard for any handheld system. Just look back at the release dates again. About 5 years of GBC, 3-4 of GBA, then about another 5 for the DS. It was, by all means, time they moved on to the next handheld system.

For those of you complaining that they should have made R/S remakes first instead... Let me tell you why you should be happy they didn't.

1. Every even-numbered generation so far are the ones that include new evo/prevos of Pokemon from past generations. Wouldn't you like to be able to evolve your Sableye (I know you all use them, don't lie) in an R/S remake? I would.

2. If they made a R/S remakes right before Gen VI games, then the remakes would be outdated really quickly, not unlike HG/SS were when B/W came out a mere year later.

3. Which version of the Hoenn region would you rather see: sprites, or 3D models with Stadium style battles?

And finally, for those of you complaining about the new Pokemon designs... You people are just fickle and impossible to please. When they change the style, you say the Pokemon don't look like Pokemon anymore. When they stick with the style, you say nothing's changed and that the Pokemon designs are unoriginal. Well, if you don't like any of the new Pokemon, no one can force you. You can happily LEAVE the Pokemon fandom and the rest of us will enjoy these awesome games. Don't worry, we won't miss you or anything, just go. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
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Added: 5 years, 8 months ago
 
KuroNetsuki
5 years, 8 months ago
why don't they invent a safety door that won't hit them on the butt on the way out because they are fired!


Cave Zubat here
Meanie108
5 years, 8 months ago
Realised: why make remakes when all previous legendaries are still accessible? (With all of them Gen III being available in IV. I and II were NOT accessible in IV shy of having a Gameboy Advance, an (Obsolite) Gamecube, Colosseum and XD, and fairly rare cables, hence the remakes)
VibrantEchoes
5 years, 8 months ago
Is that all a remake is? Just access to previous legendaries? If you wanted that, why not just cheat?
Meanie108
5 years, 8 months ago
Legitimately. If you noticed, they always give access to the everything in the previous gen:

I - II: Time Machine.

II - III: Colosseum and XD give out TOTAL access to everything from Gen II, if you have the patience. Emerald was an assistant. FireRed\LeafGreen gave entire access to Gen I.

III - IV: Between Diamond\Pearl\Platinium\HeartGold\SoulSilver, you have access to everything. Hence why there was no unnecessary side games...

IV - V: They are on the same console. That's why Gen V got away without needing anything from previous Generations. They added them to Black\White V2 for balancing purposes. For an example: Electric types! Zekrom and Thundurus are legendary, making them unusable online. Emolga is cute, but not fit for most battles. Zebstrika is too fragile for active use. Eelektross is EXTREMELY difficult to get if you're not actively seeking it out. Stunfisk has a poor move set. Galvantula is good, until you hunt down Eelektross. Solution? Add in Elekid (Slow, but powerful), Magnemite (which also covers the steel problem...), Flaaffy (Same as Elekid), Rotom (which cover a LOT of type flaws), and Eevee (same as Rotom).

V - VI: Probably the same as last time: DS download play. Using the Pokemon Data Cloud system they have might work too.
VibrantEchoes
5 years, 8 months ago
I have noticed that. But just being able to get Gen III Pokemon isn't the same as having a remade Hoenn game.
Meanie108
5 years, 8 months ago
Give it time. They're bound to do it eventually. But since the 3DS (which I also have and love) can play the Gen IV and V games, it might not be until VII, or they make a 3DS that does not play DS games. Can't wait for it though.
SiKness
5 years, 8 months ago
I personally can't wait for october, I got my Zelda 3ds as soon as i could, and played the hell out of it at the time. And i beat White and B2 within 2 weeks of getting them. They were out for plenty of time, and i was starting to get kinda bored. I'm not into the hardcore competitive battling, I have my team of favorties and i like playing them with friends.
Come this release, it's gonna be attached to the wall for a long, long time.

The minute X and Y were announced, i marked my calender for October, and I couldn't be more excited about this if i tried.

Side note: It's about damn time the fire starter isn't gonna be fire/fighting. Blaziken was the only one worth using in my opinion. As soon as i saw it, i instantly chose fennekin as my starter.
VibrantEchoes
5 years, 8 months ago
Couldn't have said it better myself.
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 8 months ago
I just think that the new pokemon look too much like fan Pokemon, and not because they're high in quality. Whenever a source material starts to resemble the fan-derivative stuff, it's a bad sign.

And Pokemon doesn't have a lot of custom animations or things going for it. The character design is kind of big deal.
VibrantEchoes
5 years, 8 months ago
Probably half the reason they look like fakemon is because many fans try to stick to what Pokemon should look like when making their fakemon. It's not the Pokemon that look like fakemon, it's the fakemon that look like Pokemon.
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 8 months ago
Yeah, but it's eating from itself too much. The new designs are just kind of uninspired... Chespin looks so much like Oshawott it's not even funny.
VibrantEchoes
5 years, 8 months ago
Because it has a round head and rodent-ish body?
ButtercupSaiyan
5 years, 8 months ago
Eyes, body shape, design philosophy, feet. Both of them take somewhat from Sandshrew yet they look quite different from the Gen 1 version. But not different from each other. By comparing the starters together, one could be a cosplay of the other just by giving it a green hood and a palette swap. :|

There's an infinite number of possible body combinations and imaginative design but they went with the path of least resistance.
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