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Norithics

*sigh* Wow. Jobless again.

So, remember that job that I was doing so well in? The first one I'd had lined up in almost a year?

Well, they told me that they wanted to have me on permanently! For more money! Fantastic, right? I was certainly ecstatic, and didn't wait to tell Chaytel the good news!

And then the next day, I come into work. It's a normal day, no problems. At least, I thought it was. I call over somebody whose entire job it is to answer questions, and ask her one. Now, I've never seen this person before, so I assume they came over from Corporate to help out. Well, apparently they're not used to it, because they're the most stubborn, impatient, rude person I've ever talked to in the place. But I'm careful, I make sure not to say anything offensive and to back off even though she instigated.

An hour later, I'm being walked out the building for disrespecting someone.
I'm. Being fired. For this person coming up to pick a fight with me.
All of my hard fucking work to get ahead in this company comes crashing down because one asshole decides she's going to ruin my life for her own satisfaction.

And now, all the money that I thought I was going to have to, say, pay the bills or buy food with? All that's gone. I'm up a creek without a paddle, because I live in a god damn Right to Work state where people like me have no choice and no voice.

Words cannot describe my anger. And yet, I don't have time to be mad. Why? Because I have to figure out some way to make it through this month. This month, where nobody's apt to have any money.

Is it really so much to ask, to just... live? To just make it day to day? Am I asking for the moon, here?
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SkyeEldrich
5 years, 11 months ago
Oh, no!!!  Oh, god, I'm sorry to hear that, Nori.  I wish there was something I could do to help. T_T
XxSkyxX
5 years, 11 months ago
Tell me your paypal Nori and I'll send some cash your way
Sylex
5 years, 11 months ago
THtas fucking SHIT!
I hear ya!
And thats just unbelievable ><
SimPiko
5 years, 11 months ago
... o_o
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yuuwolfman
5 years, 11 months ago
thats fucked up man i would bee kicking ass and taking names
ColeSutra
5 years, 11 months ago
Good fucking lord..

That's it, it's settled.  There's no fucking justice in the world.
Eviscerator
5 years, 11 months ago
There is none but what we make.  Which is why there are laws against it.

I'm ready to break a few.
Eviscerator
5 years, 11 months ago
Son of a FUCKING BITCH.

I..admire your restraint.  In your shoes, I'd probably be arrested at this point.
Nopast
5 years, 11 months ago
...and you didn't murder anyone yet?

but yeah, that was just totally dumb of her, probably one of the most stuck up people youc an have at work
kingmaster1
5 years, 11 months ago
That's really shit, man :(

I would be freaking right the hell out by this point, I admire that restraint.
PonderousPlatypus
5 years, 11 months ago
This is actually the dumbest shit I've ever heard. I wish I could lodge some manner of complaint with the company, because that's honestly some bullshit when it comes to handling your employees. A single, first offence of 'disrespect' is enough to fire an employee who was previously being considered for full-time employment. Laughable.
HypnoFire86
5 years, 11 months ago
This. This here assures me there is nooooo f*cking justice. I'm so sorry Norithics, maybe karma will be a royal bitch to said bitch.
Mogura
5 years, 11 months ago
here in germany its not godo either i work for kinda 10 bucks a day and that on a 13 hour day aswell... 6 days a week. ust to end with 400 at month end...
EtherSaga
5 years, 11 months ago
Arizona? Yeah, I've heard of all sorts of stories like that here. I was almost victim to one, but luckily my boss really liked me and overlooked it.

Maybe the management for some reason didn't like you? I don't know. I Just hope you find a new job soon.
Treforce
5 years, 11 months ago
seems like a good time to accept paying commissions.
Eviscerator
5 years, 11 months ago
His commissions are always open.  It's why he doesn't charge until he's got a sketch to preview. You just note him with your idea or whatever.
rick2tails
5 years, 11 months ago
thats really fucked up.thats why I am glad we have a union at the grocery store.it might not be ideal in a right to work state but at least it prevents shit like that from happening.no matter where you work though there is usually a 90 day trial period where you can be let go for any reason.I assume you`ll be taking more commissions to try and make some money?
SpaceGojira
5 years, 11 months ago
dont worry ^w^. ur luck will turn around and you'll have a job soon. just hang in there for now
SkySage
5 years, 11 months ago
Living proof that hierarchy leads us nowhere because dumb assholes will always take advantage. I'm pretty sure I'm right in assuming that you didn't even get to see the bitch in question or even got your say in it, and I find it absolutely revolting. The more lenient we are, the more we get stepped on, and the more we try to voice our opinions, the more people try to shut our voices out. All that because of one little thought, "Sometimes, you don't have a choice."

It freaking kills me to see the good people I know struggle to make their way in life when all they ask for is exactly that. A life that they can afford and be happy with. I'm not violent, but it's honestly these type of situation that make me want to find the kill switch to the world or hope that some doom's day prophecies are true.

And I'm going to stop myself there because I will rant for hours if I don't.
Milkie
5 years, 11 months ago
Ah, Right to Work. I heard about that the other day. What a terrible thing, to pretty much mean the exact opposite of what the Bill is called. As Mr. Stewart put it: "It's more a right for corporations to work -around- the unions."

Sounds utterly awful. I almost wish you had saved enough money to move to a less... I'm not sure what word I'm looking for... restrictive area? There doesn't seem to be much luck going around there.
SirStefan02
5 years, 11 months ago
I think you're right about the union vs state. I understand Michigan is in the middle of the same issue. The only thing I don't understand is if its a right to work state then you should have some say in your circumstance. If you are in an employment at will state you should be under threat of firing for ANY reason at all, i.e., you have no recourse.
Norithics
5 years, 11 months ago
They sell us chains and call them 'freedom.' They prey on the stupid and punish us with numbers.
Meergoose
5 years, 11 months ago
People like that get what's coming to them in all due time.
Shokuji
5 years, 11 months ago
That's bullshit! >_< You can't talk to HR or someone about it? If you didn't do anything how could they fire you? Did they even get your side of the story? I'd fight this tooth and nail, if they're going to try and throw you out you better go out with a lot of noise and get that person who's screwing you over in trouble or something.

I've been in a similar situation before, losing my job because of a female complaining about bullshit. I gave them a piece of my mind before I left there. I hate to sound sexist, but the safest way to keep a job when working with females is to never talk with them about anything, and if you need to (about work only) then you do so in the most dead-pan voice possible.

Sorry this shit is happening to you. =( I hope you can find something else very soon. But I'd still fight to get that job back if you liked it and such. Make a stink if needed, ruin their public reputation if they're not co-operating.
Lamia
5 years, 11 months ago
I agree with this
Killereye
5 years, 11 months ago
+1
I'm a manipulative person by nature. Yet, I know to be a backstabber only, when it's a last resort! I aim to get along with everybody, and often take the hard end of stuff, just to keep the peace! But one time, my job was on the line too...And I went on full attack mode! I had to keep my job, because I have a home-loan to pay for, and i need to live and stuff...Also the person was backstabbing me first, but to my luck it went not deep enough. My response was more effective. She moved away to work on a different field at the same company...but she doesn't have my job!

So I can kind of picture what is happening there! My advice too is: Fight and make a lot of noise! If you are going down, then do that with a "bang!"...but a smart person can win back it's job. I did that with my first job! I was quitting, then 2 days after I talked myself back for one more week...It was humiliating, but I knew, that I will win one more week worth of money! To them, it was like I was almost begging to be able to stay for a week! To me it felt like milking them a week's worth of money. I clearly won.

Fight for the job!
heropie
5 years, 11 months ago
i understand how its to be back stab by your work place.

few years back, i was going to be hired as a new cleaner for a office company . i had co workers who clean half the offices and the shipping area. they was nice and friendly. they did a few test runs on me, like how fast i can clean a area(they did this because in the past, there was slackers) and i was super fast than anyone else. well, i was getting my coat when my co workers came up to me and acted different. they was saying how i was a jerk and an asshole and so on. now i was confuse until i learned because i did great, not only was i going to get hired but get a raise as well. sounds like they was jealous right? well, in fact because of that action, the company needed to fire someone. thats why they was piss off at me. so i refuse the job because even if i stayed, i don't want to be around those ppl again.
Killereye
5 years, 11 months ago
Another example just how unfair life can be...
RenChu
5 years, 11 months ago
Eeeesh some people are just total asses and the worse part is you never even had the chance to defend yourself. =/ I'm sorry Nori... I really hope you can push through this.
GilPix
5 years, 11 months ago
*sigh*
Don't people know it is a bad enough economy? We should try and work to benefit each other or at least coop while we are trying to maintain a decent life.
I wish you the best in hopes of finding another job.
Kuto
5 years, 11 months ago
Dang it I wish there was something I could do for you nori
yiharbin
5 years, 11 months ago
what a piece of shit!!! That is unbelievably unfair!!!!!
I am so so so sorry that happened to you.... thats just... so not okay....


good luck, my friend... I hope things improve soon
AlexanderValentine
5 years, 11 months ago
Dude, just get a lawsuit against that bitch.

if you did nothing wrong, then you need to confront her about it.
If no one stood up for themselves, we'd still be living in caves.
doomcup
5 years, 11 months ago
I hear you, man. I know what it's like to get fired for complete BS reasons. Hang in there, I'm sure there's places that would be glad to hire you and won't pull this same kind of shit. And there's plenty here that'd commission your awesome art.

Hang tough, we're here for you!
Oogzie
5 years, 11 months ago
Well.. I'm vicariously pissed. How quickly things change.. If it wasn't completely unreasonable suggestion, I'd suggest moving to a non right-to-work state, but ... hm.
CursedFerret
5 years, 11 months ago
The same thing happened to me with Hastings. Was it just because you spoke with them? If anything, i would be asking even more questions and go as far as demanding answers(in a civil manner) as to why you got fired. They have to have a reason to drop you just like that.
Eviscerator
5 years, 11 months ago
No, no they don't need a reason.  That's what 'Right to Work' means, they can terminate employment without cause.
CursedFerret
5 years, 11 months ago
Blah. Did not realize there are still places like this =b

Hey Norith, PM me any info you have on this person.
Eviscerator
5 years, 11 months ago
What do you mean still?  This is accepted business practice in alot of states.
CursedFerret
5 years, 11 months ago
A lot but not all. Was in management a number of times and only way we could fire a person was to ensure we had a solid reason for it.
Eviscerator
5 years, 11 months ago
Were you in a 'Right to Work' state?
Mythterious
5 years, 11 months ago
Well, I was going to say something about "wrongful termination", but I have no idea how or even IF that law works in a "right to work" state...

Sorry to hear about that...
TheFurvert
5 years, 11 months ago
I am so sorry to hear this!! I've been there more than a few times. It's never easier and never right.
I don't know what to suggest or if there is anything that can be done... If I can find a way to help I will hon
Please don't give up hope.
Tendrak
5 years, 11 months ago
I'm really sorry to hear that. Some people have such an amazing capacity for being petty. I can't believe there wasn't even a warning or something.  It's so shady sounding.
merlynn
5 years, 11 months ago
So if you never saw her before,how did you know her job was answering questions?
Norithics
5 years, 11 months ago
She had a badge on that said as much.
merlynn
5 years, 11 months ago
And what's "Right to Work" that somehow protects her?
Norithics
5 years, 11 months ago
It doesn't protect her, it just more to the point fails to protect me. It means Unions have no real bargaining power, thus you can be fired for any old reason at all, and there's nothing you can do about it.
merlynn
5 years, 11 months ago
No Unions? What is this,commie Russia?

They should've at least called you in and said "This bitch came in here all crazy mad. What did you do,bro?" Especially if it's the first complaint again' you. Think she's blowin' someone?
ElfenSciuridae
5 years, 11 months ago
I understand your pain, Norithics.
I was just fired on Tuesday. Though the Union is fighting to clear any such charges that the job threw at me, there was supposed to be an arbitration hearing which was supposed to protect me from being fired. But - the idiot district supervisor had me fired anyways. Like you, I'm pissed.

So, what to do? Only what you can do to stay good. If not, this world would be burning to ashes from the anger of everyone who has been wronged.
DOtter
5 years, 11 months ago
Wrongful dismissal. Sue.
Chaytel
5 years, 11 months ago
Arizona being a 'Right to Work' State means he can't. There's no such thing as a wrongful dismissal under that law. There's also pretty much no such thing as worker's rights, or unions, so there's absolutely zero grounds for him to stand on.
DOtter
5 years, 11 months ago
*face-palms* That is... just... wrong! That can't be constitutional! That... Words fail me.

Poor Nori.

...wait, if he can't sue the employer, can he sue the asshat who got him fired?
Chaytel
5 years, 11 months ago
He essentially can't do anything to anyone about anything. I doubt the corporations that run the country much care whether it's constitutional or not, since their interests long ago superseded things like individual rights.
DOtter
5 years, 11 months ago
That's obscene.
lipucd
5 years, 11 months ago
Welcome towards the real world.
Chicago's got wonderful tricks to den hiring people as well that can be just as bad. While a company's not allowed to dismiss you off of skin color, nor gender, they CAN dismiss hiring you over "Current Living location, Overqualification, Underqualification, Work history ( including working for other company's they dislike ), and current yearly earnings ( yes. I've been denied a job, because I don't make a cent for not having a job. ). The legal system says it's in the company's right to do such, as it is my 'right' to keep knocking on doors spending busfair I don't have.

Land of the 'free' indeed.
Norithics
5 years, 11 months ago
I agree, it is obscene. Unfortunately, that's the legacy of deregulation.
Jeffron
5 years, 11 months ago
wow,compeltly idiotic and stcuk up,I wish you luck in hopes you'll find another job you can survive with,and yet,I also wish the worst for her.

still here's hoping that paddle can lead you to more stable waters
MilesKjeller
5 years, 11 months ago
Over here in the UK that could be taken to a tribunal as "Unfair Dismissal"
There has to be -something- like that over there even if you live in a "Right to be walked over" state.

I'd at least contact HR and discuss the situation with them, perhaps you'll get through to someone with some compassion..
Norithics
5 years, 11 months ago
HR were the ones who walked me out. Not likely.
MilesKjeller
5 years, 11 months ago
Well, if there is anything we (your rabid fan club) can do to help, let us know. <3
specterHSC
5 years, 11 months ago
I'm sorry to hear. I hope you find something soon.
sedkitty
5 years, 11 months ago
"Right to work" -- what bullshit.  "No rights" is more like it.  That this happened so close to Christmas shows just what sort of people they are.  My heart goes out to you, Nori.  I hope you rebound quickly from this.
GunslingerDragon
5 years, 11 months ago
If you were still technically a temp worker, even not being a right to work state might not have done much. Wisconsin is not Right to Work, but when I worked as a temp the contract made it absolutely crystal clear that I could be fired at any time, for any reason. One of the bosses at said job had a manner of talking that added an unspoken "Or I will fire you" to every single thing she said.

I'll have to see if I can scrounge up some money to toss your way, I think I have enough that I can afford to help out.
terrymouse
5 years, 11 months ago
Holy shit, Nori.  The fact that you're not slamming someone's face against a solid object of your choosing just says how utterly chill you are about the situation at hand.

I also live in a "Right to Be Trod UponWork" state, and, yeah, I've seen the amount of bullshit that can cause.  I've been victim to it several times in my past, both while in Royal Palm Beach and Orlando.  It's dumb and stupid, but, hey!  We have Jeb Bush to thank for that for the longest time, too!

Oddly enough, my second job in Orlando, Lexmark tech support, we spent one evening watching Office Space, with the managers as well.  Once the movie was over, one of the managers stood up, faced the work force, and said, "now don't get any ideas.  That was just a movie."  Remember 9/11?  I was fired for being a minute late on 10/11.  So, yeah.

" CaveJohnson wrote:
"When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade.  Make life take the lemons back!  Do you know who I am?  I'm the man that's going to burn your house down!  With the lemons!"
Denizen1414
5 years, 11 months ago
awww man i'm sorry...
SuperRobot
5 years, 11 months ago
Geez sorry to hear. Yeah, my state has that Right to Work nonsense too. The only options I've seen people do to keep their job is to go over the firing boss' head to human resources/corporate or even their boss to explain your case that your termination was unjust. No guarantee obviously but it might be worth a shot.
Daneasaur
5 years, 11 months ago
Unlike the movies and stories, Evil always wins and life is never fair. i do hope support comes your way and I'd help if I could :(
threyon
5 years, 11 months ago
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFuck. I can't believe you got fired because of one person's shitty day. Furthermore, I can't there's such a thing as Right-to-Work laws. I had to look it up on Wikipedia and I was just flabbergasted that they'd allow something like that to undermine unions and workers' rights!
Bestthe
5 years, 11 months ago
Dude that really sucks. That's how I lost my last job. >_<

I still has Money though if you want to start on that Comic we talked about.
shadycat
5 years, 11 months ago
"Right to work." That'll do as an example of Orwellian language until another comes along. Right to work for less money, that is.
I'm sorry for your trouble. Are you sure you have no recourse?
ScottyKat
5 years, 11 months ago
Man that fucking sucks. Stupid woman got mad because you asked her to
do her job. She's probably related to someone sleeping with someone.
I hate " right to work" states. They really need to ban the "right to work"
practice forever. The worst part is the people who work in these states
get treated like crap and abused by the system... Are still people who
will scream that Unions are evil.  Unions may not be the best.. but its
far better then  the " right to be fired because they dont like your haircut"
states.
Chaytel
5 years, 11 months ago
This, very much. Unions have their ups and downs, some are better than others as well. But they are infinitely better than the alternative, which is basically a legal and politically correct variant of slavery; you either work, or you starve, and you only work at the behest of those that have absolute control over your continued ability to do so.

Until society invents some structure that functions superior to unions, unions are what we have, and they need to be used, they need to be powerful, and they need to be protected, because it's increasingly easy to legislate them out of existence.
ScottyKat
5 years, 11 months ago
Honestly i wish nori could sue that woman and company into poverty.
Chaytel
5 years, 11 months ago
The funny thing is if there was a union, he wouldn't even need to. He'd have made one call to his rep, who would have responded with "Wait, they did WHAT?" Then his rep would have made a phone call to the company, and he'd have either had his job back, or they'd have had the company's ass on a plate. Successful unions have enough money to get the exact same mega-lawyers that many companies do, (if picketing/striking/etc fails) and that's not a prospect that the company finds appealing.

But it's all a moot point for said fictional union because if they existed the company would never have fired him for no good reason anyway.
ScottyKat
5 years, 11 months ago
I just wish it could happen so they could experience loosing all their power and ending up
on the other side of the power fence.. Those in power need to be forced to somewhat
regularly go back to the basics and remember what its like on the other side.
Chaytel
5 years, 11 months ago
That used to be the case, or at least there was some degree of balance of power between union and business back 30 or so years ago. It all kind of changed with the PATCO strikes and President Ronald Reagan crushing practically all worker's rights regarding public sector unions, which you can get a very simplistic history of right here if you're inclined to read up on this stuff.
ScottyKat
5 years, 11 months ago
thanks a friggan lot reagen.
threyon
5 years, 11 months ago
I second that.
KlinKitty
5 years, 11 months ago
Aw shit, man :( Hope things turn back around quick!
Mitsozuka
5 years, 11 months ago
If it were me, that company building would be ash before day's end.  With all of them in it.
Chaytel
5 years, 11 months ago
If you would be willing to commit mass-murder against many people who were totally innocent and had no involvement with wronging you out of petty spite, you would not only be no better than the petty woman that got him fired, you would be far, far worse.
threyon
5 years, 11 months ago
I'd just settle for a potato in her tailpipe. And another in her car's muffler. ;3
Mitsozuka
5 years, 11 months ago
Zing!
OralKombat
5 years, 11 months ago
Well, if there's any justice in the world, one day that bitch will get on the wrong side of the wrong person having a bad day and we'll see what good her Right to Work corporate cocksucking fares against a tire iron to the face.

...Wait, no, no, it's not right to wish pain or death upon someone. Well, out loud, anyway.

Still, this sucks. If money wasn't tight due to the holidays just around the corner, I'd try to do my part to help and buy a commission from you or something. Good luck making it through the month.
raisamike3
5 years, 11 months ago
That's fucked up. There aren't any other words. She probably bullshitted her way into getting you fired. Hope You find another job soon.
DevasiaMentality
5 years, 11 months ago
You have my sympathies.
Shadowwalk
5 years, 11 months ago
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.....

If I were you, I'd STRONGLY consider confronting them somehow to allow you back!  Seriously, none of that was your fault.  And you get fired?!  That's unforgivable, and shouldn't be allowed.
JamesZero
5 years, 11 months ago
Wow fuck people seriously fuck people.
Toshubi
5 years, 11 months ago
Woah! Sounds like some woman needs to have her tires slashed, (all four of them) and a rag soaked in brake fluid tossed onto the hood of her car. (Brake fluid eats paint incase you didn't know.)
Spuug
5 years, 11 months ago
That's not fair.  It sounds to me like you were set up to be fired.
Milkie
5 years, 11 months ago
So like... what if I donated to the "Keep Raccoons Off the Street" cause? D: Can I do that? I mean, I -have- been working on commissions, and you have very much been an integral part of that!
TheOme
5 years, 11 months ago
Jeez, thats a load of crap. For disrespecting someone? Thats seriously what they did it for? Christ break their car window and shit in the front seat of their car THATS disrespect(and a good idea at this point I'd say), but asking questions? JOB RELATED QUESTIONS no less? Christ thats like failing class for raising your hand.
threyon
5 years, 11 months ago
I don't suppose you can appeal this to her/your superiors at all? I mean, they offered to take you on a permanent basis, so they thought highly enough of you to keep you on indefintitely. I would hope that their minds could be changed if you explain your side of it. Maybe she has a pattern of firing people arbitrarily and they'd pick up on it or something.
Luvythicus
5 years, 11 months ago
Goddamn it, fuck people like that! I'd go to higher-up people even if you say you have no voice! Make em hear it! What's there to lose?

Best of luck to you! D:
TujoThePanda
5 years, 11 months ago
You have my sympathies.
SenGrisane
5 years, 11 months ago
That sounds totally terrible. This is so unbelieveable. I would recommend some heavy dose of murder if it wasn't illegal. It sounds like you live on a different planet where the normal rules don't apply.

Why did you have to call her if you never have seen her before?
Chaytel
5 years, 11 months ago
As I recall, she was the only person on the floor that day, therefore the only person he could speak to with his question.
SenGrisane
5 years, 11 months ago
I see. The logic of all that is so out there I can't understand it.

Even if this state has no protection, the company just lost a determined worker (I don't believe a good worker is that easy to find). It has to hire a new one, pay overtime for the people that need to do the job till a replacement is found and trained. In the end they just lost money.
Even if they are heartless bastards that don't care about a person, one would assume they would at least consider a person's monetary value <.<
falloutghoul
5 years, 11 months ago
Wow.
And to think you could have refuted your case with your employer.

I just hope things start improving for you.
RufioVulper
5 years, 11 months ago
First and foremost, I feel sorry for your loss of a job in which you enjoyed doing.
Secondly, fighting politics is not the point toward you advancement in career. Sure you can blame along going badly in your life as any other on the Right-To-Work status of your state. I'll refrain from speaking more of my mind on this subject, aside saying that you have the RIGHT to apply for the same JOB with another EMPLOYER.
Did this employer have competition? Were you exceeding expectations? Do you feel you're worth something?
Then go on and jobsearch like an adult. I'm sure you'll be able to find a way out of this mess...
Norithics
5 years, 11 months ago
*facepalm*
You know that's not what 'Right to Work' means, right? You understand that it's a political inequity giving all power to the private sector in order to qualitatively create a disposable workforce that is unable to name its own terms at the same time that it uses previous union-built successes to mask the effects of this lionization of corporate wisdom?

I worked so hard for this, and every company I've ever worked for that they themselves said I was their most valuable asset. Guess what that gets me, time after time? It gets me laid off, fired for nonsensical reasons. I have had zero, NO influence in any reason for which I've been booted out on my ass after they decided I was too high a wage to pay. What you're doing right now is called blaming the victim, and if you thought for some reason it wasn't going to piss me off, you're a colossal idiot.

Job search like an adult? An adult. Guess what I've been doing for a year now, you fucking clown? As it turns out, I've had my hands firmly on my boot straps since I entered the work force, and surprise surprise, this Randian fantasy of ignoring the facts of corporate fifedom and blaming yourself when expedience deems you disposable doesn't make you succeed; it makes you a sucker.
Jewelwriter
5 years, 11 months ago
I'm sorry to ask but could you speak at a lower IQ level since I don't think he understood you when you told him so many facts.

I feel for you and the worst of things is I live in one of the worst places that you'd probably would live at for stuff like this: Georgia.

And it's people like the one you encountered that makes people go so out of character to want to do something upon the offender.  (I know, since I personally had this happen to me and thankfully it was a yellwar instead.)
RufioVulper
5 years, 11 months ago
I think I have more to be sorry about from my previous reply.
As my perhaps misguided opinion shows, as well as being a colossal idiot clown for not thinking right with you, I have a difficulty to realise in what context you are being living as job environnement goes. The fact that all your efforts toward having a job goes to waste is regretful, and so is doubting you of being an adult over it, but what troubled me on this entry was, from my initial read, an instrumentalisation of a personal event into the proofing of a political ideology; that the enterprise you were dealing with to be contracted as permanent worker deemed you off as disposable just because they can.

I do hope that you find something that fits well with your abilities and interests as soon as possible.
brennant
5 years, 11 months ago
I have been a big fan of yours for a long time, not a vocal person, I have also been jobless and lost a good construction job to, all I can say is keep on trucking, you will find a new job someday and if it helps anything I think you have some of the best furry art out there.
kandlin
5 years, 11 months ago
I'm really sorry to hear your loss of the job, especially since they seemed to have you set up for permanent setting. I had practically the same thing happen to me at a job years ago, but my position was never going to be permanent anyway, just long term. Can only hope that this person causes much pain and loss for the company, so that they see exactly the type of person they are.
Hope you're able to find something else soon and things improve quickly. Hang in there.
Rutilus
5 years, 11 months ago
Jesus, first Lipcud, then you... I knew America was a lot more for free-market "invisible hand" capitalism then my place but I didn't expect to see things get this bad and see it fuck the lives of people I know.
Im really sorry to hear things are like that for you.
Danund81
5 years, 11 months ago
lol, you're here too! hi!
Rikmach
5 years, 11 months ago
Man.  I sympathize, I've been fired for unbelievably shitty reasons as well.  As someone once told me,  "Man, they could fucking fire you because they say you're a space alien, and you couldn't do anything about it."
GreyEyedMouse
5 years, 11 months ago
I don't know if you've tried them, or your feelings about them, but have you tried working for Wal-Mart?
I know it's not the most glamorous job out there, but it'll pay the bills.
Norithics
5 years, 11 months ago
This is the part where I reach for a drink and say, yes, I actually have. There wasn't even openings there.
rick2tails
5 years, 11 months ago
if youre going to work retail you dont want to work there. Safeway,Frys and Smiths are all union.The new hires dont have as good as a pay package as people who have been there for awhile like me .But at least youd have a union to back you up from nonsensical firings like yours.
GreyEyedMouse
5 years, 11 months ago
*shrugs*
Oh well, I would suggest that you keep an eye on them while you look elsewhere. I've been working for Wal-Mart for about eight years now. The benefits are decent, and you meet a lot of nice people. (customers and associates)
There is the down side of retail, of having to deal with the one asshole customer who will try to ruin your day, but more often than not it winds up being a funny to story to joke about int he break room.
The company's policies are pretty fair too. Though, they are left open to varying degrees of interpretation. Whether your experience is going to be a good or bad one is largely dependent on the store's managers, and how they interpret those policies.
123notit123
5 years, 11 months ago
Hmm...I'd say bring this up with the local media, but that may hurt you in the longrun. "Right to Work" state or not, companies always fear a good media shaming. It could also bring up more awareness to the issues revolving around the "Right to Work" policies. However, it's an equivalent to Whistle-blowing if your name gets out there.

YukiAkuma
5 years, 11 months ago
...What.

...Nori, are you adverse to accepting gifts/donations? I mean, it is nearly Christmas. .-.
Danund81
5 years, 11 months ago
Let me share with you a story Nori.  Take it to heart okay?  

One day, a farmer found his horse had escape from its fence.  The neighbors came to comfort the farmer, saying "That's such a shame." The farmer said, "...Maybe."

A month later, the horse came home with a herd of other horses!  The neighbors said, "That's great! You're so lucky!" The farmer said, "...Maybe."

The farmer's son the next day, fell off a wild horse, breaking his leg. The neighbors came and said "Sorry about your son."  The farmer said, "...Maybe."

A few days later, war was declared and all the men were being drafted. The farmer's son however, because he had a broken leg, stayed. The neighbors again came to the farmer, glad that at least one of the boys stayed home. "...Maybe" said the farmer.


The point is, you may be angry, this may seem so unfair to you, but like all things in life, the down is going to have an Up.  Things'll get better.  Until then, show me your paypal, I'll certainly help with the trip 'up' =P
RikMcCloud
5 years, 11 months ago
Well it seems like it wasn't to be. I am sure you will find something much better soon and besides, there are plenty of people here who would help you out if you get really stuck. Also, this Friday, I'm sure not having a job isn't going to matter :P

Stay safe and try to find some positives. If you need to do anymore sketch streams, you know I'll be there ;)
LabrnMystic
5 years, 11 months ago
No way to appeal or fight it? Sue for being let go without intent?
YukiAkuma
5 years, 10 months ago
He lives in a "right to work" state.

That is, there is statute law in his state essentially giving labour unions no power.

Which basically means he can be fired at any time, making the terminology needlessly confusing.
MadDog
5 years, 11 months ago
Assuming that it happened as you described, I would also recommend filing a grievance and talking with HR. I know for the immediate moment it doesn't pay the bills and put food on the table, but if you think there's a chance of continuing with this company at all I'd not let it go. Not until you find out a bit more what's being claimed and what evidence/procedure is being done.

While a company can always find something, usually a company doesn't like heat from any firing that would be deemed inappropriate... and sometimes it's not so much the company as the individual or two. Someone in HR, that employee, something. For now, definitely more info. But if you've any resolve to fight it, the time would be soon.

Best of luck.
Relee
5 years, 11 months ago
Erf... It's not much, but *GREAT BIG INTERNET HUGS!*
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