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Wakka

Picked a fight with FA And Its Admins.

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I picked a fight with FA and its Admins and all but lost the fight. i tryed to make a simple comment as to my opinions on the new updated rules regarding new updates for cub art and with in mints of doing so people have outright attacked me over my comment----So cub art is still not allowed. the new updated AUP was useless to me then. and from that simple comment with in less then 24hr iv had tons of angry comments made to me with harsh name calling that no man/women deserves to be called EVER in their entire lives.

And no matter how hard i tryed to defend my self the comments just didn't stop coming. then a FA member call me something that would merit a warning----as the admin said to me---

hears the Admins reply to me.

2ND Admin kitashi

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Sry to bother you but id like to file a complaint on user https://www.furaffinity.net/user/talonh/ for a severe offensive comment made to me while posting about my opinion on the Dec 8, 2012 - AUP Updated in witch Talonh is mentioning me as a pedophile in regards to my opinion on adult cub art. In Talonh own words You're a pedophile if you like it. Don't be a creepy fuck.

My response to his comment is Really im a pedophile? you sound more like a closed minded thinking bitch. theirs real pedophiles out their and you would call me a pedophile just because i like fake porn? its people like you that assume just because people like fake cub art that their automatically a pedophile when in fact how hell would you know?

So my response to you is that your pedophile and a closed minded fuck. we can point the finger back and forth but really your choice in using the word pedophile when for all i know could be exactly what you are in real life. its works both ways pal so try thinking 1st next time before you add your lame ass response.

It was not right of me to respond back but i take being called a pedophile as a serious offense and would like to request action be taken in regards to his comment. all so i have a screen picture of our conversation for proof if needed.

this message was sent to Admin Trpdwarf but did not receive a message back after waiting a day.

No one deserves to be called a pedophile regardless if it was meant for some one or if it was just for the sake of conversation.

Thank you for your time.  [/QUOTE]

Before going into the issue, I would like to remind you that reports are to be done via the site's trouble ticket system.

After looking at the context of the comments made, it appears you were actively participating in the arguments and name callings that occurred.  If you are going to report someone, you should always refrain from antagonizing them or furthering an argument, and you should block them.

Because you contributed much more to the name calling and arguments than did the user you are reporting, I am going to take no action against him.  If you had not participated so much in the arguments and name-calling, I would have given the user a warning.  

As things stand, though, I would be more prone to give you a warning or suspension than him.

[/QUOTE] i see. so being referred to as a pedophile means little to nothing. look i don't clam to know everything about FA and how it works and even more so that complaints are filed via the  trouble ticket system.
no one knows every thing about any give site. and as for actively participating in the argument hes the one that started this whole mess leaving me the victim hear. i accepted that i was wrong in arguing with him but i will defend myself and even more so when i am bluntly called a pedophile.

the new AUP didn't change any thing. people are the same as before-cruel. ill take your advice and bear it in mind but if Admins still cant see who the victim is then Admins haven't changed either.

put a warning mark on me if you wish but hear me out when all im asking now is that the comments from Talonh are removed. a simple request that ill make good on and remove my remaining comments and follow the rules more carefully next time.

Once again im sry to disturbed you and i thank you for your time.

That's how low FA has fallen. when Admins would take no action on the one that started it and instead suggest that they should in fact give me a warning or suspension for defending myself.

As stated i know i didn't do the right thing and just report it to FA Admins but this is just truly sad.

Admin kitashi did remove the offending comment made by Talonh and i respect him for that but as for FA my respect for them is now none. FA is not changing for the better. its still the same.

This journal will stay hear as a reminder to myself and others that FA is not to be trusted and that they would help the other guy then help the true victim.  comment as a friend if you wish or be a hatter. idk what to think any more~

My current mood- Relaxed and moved on -
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Added: 6 years ago
 
Dirtypawz
6 years ago
Its crap like this that made me leave FA long before they started the bans.
Wakka
6 years ago
Iv been around FA longer then my account of 2yrs would suggest. i was around as a lurker before the bans kicked in as well. a hard lesson learned today. i wont leave completely but ill remain their only for the artist i enjoy commissioning. lol i do have a weasyl account so maybe its time to use my invites and see if any of the artists i commission from want to leave FA. then ill leave for fresher grounds. thanks for the comment Vixy. ^^_
Waccoon
6 years ago
"After looking at the context of the comments made, it appears you were actively participating in the arguments and name callings that occurred.  If you are going to report someone, you should always refrain from antagonizing them or furthering an argument, and you should block them.

Because you contributed much more to the name calling and arguments than did the user you are reporting, I am going to take no action against him.  If you had not participated so much in the arguments and name-calling, I would have given the user a warning."

Sorry, dude, but that's very sound and reasonable administration.  This is how things are handled in many aspects of society, and not just web sites.  You don't get results by yelling back with vulgarity, because this causes a huge number of headaches for the admins.  Having been an admin on other sites, and knowing what a shitstorm it would cause to take action against both parties, I would have handled the situation pretty much the same way.

FA has made their decision that cub art is not allowed.  That will not change.  Arguing to have the AUP changed will only tire and frustrate both the admins and other users, and in such case, nobody will stick up for you and you are the one causing the problem.  You'll have to accept that and move on.
Wakka
6 years ago
What i cant accept is the fact that that guy started this and basically walks away with nothing done while im the one put on trial and given a comment from the admin witch to me sounds more like a form of intimidation.--i would be more prone to give you a warning or suspension than him---that sounds like  intimidation to me. Talonh comment should have been enough to get him suspended. my only crime in all this is that i voiced my opinion on what i think. new AUP updates are useless to me and from their i said nothing more. then that piece of #$%^ calls me a pedophile. that right their should of been enough to can his ass.

I appreciate your comment since your an Ex Admin and all but since you where an admin you most likely now that their are types of people that can accept it easily and some that can't. im sry but i can't accept it just yet. my last course of action is to talk with Dragoneer. if he tells me that their was a bad call on both sides and to drop it then ill reluctantly accept it. till then i just need to hear it from Dragoneer due to how severe the comment was and to help put my mind at ease.

Thanks for your comment Waccoon. at the very lest your comment did help me accept it some.
Blazeymix
6 years ago
This sounds... Bad, Wakka. I'm not sure, but it seems recently you've been in a decent amount of trouble. Not that it's your fault, but it worries me. Because I care very much about you. My opinion on this, is that he crossed the line calling you a pedophile. Cub art is art, regardless of ones taste, and you were stating your opinion. You didn't deserve that comment. I don't blame you for defending yourself, but the fact is, you went about it wrong. You called him one back, and called him a bi$#h. Think if you're a teacher and you see two kids calling each other names. You tell the one who complains "Well he started it!" that two wrongs don't make a right.
I do agree with you, Wakka, I understand your frustration. But you have to look at it from other perspectives. It's wrong you're the one on trial, though, the one being called out when it was the other who started it, and I would've handled it differently. I just hope you try to relax and feel better, it doesn't do you any good to be upset and angry.
Wakka
6 years ago
Aye SaL your right that i went about it wrong. i wont deny that my actions weren't wrong but in fact that i was dead wrong with how i handled it and your correct that two wrongs don't make a right and it was a hard lesson learned. Lol and yes it dose seem that way with me and trouble at the moment. between protesting online censorship bills and fighting FA Admins and members alike maybe it is time for me to lower my fists and get some rest before i end up thinking i should run for president. but ya win or lose this fight ill put my fists down, open my hands and get back to drawing~ ^^_
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