This machine was amazing to me, it only red ringed once on me but twice the DVD drive did fail. Its last failure was the red ring and for 3 years now it hasn't had anymore problems. (I was playing Metal Gear Solid and Halo Reach non stop this week like crazy intentionally trying to break it and its still holding up.) Alas in the end once I get my new 360 I will be retiring this wonderful beast into my Halo collection. It will never go on sale as long as I am alive.