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Raukue

Posting Multiple Images Within One Submission

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I am just wondering... how come more people aren't doing that? I see comics which is perfect for putting all in one image and just click the thumbnail under the picture to see the next page... or I see multiple versions of the same image such as a female and male version of an image, everything is the same aside from having different private parts or where an image is just removing an article of clothing and again, position and all that is the same. I see all that and yet it is all separate submissions rather than all into one submission for less clutter, why?

Those new to the site do not know of this? Or I see those who have been here long and don't use it. I don't think there is a rule to having to do that or anything so don't think it is needed but I am just wondering why it is not used. I think this, among other things, makes Ink Bunny better than FA, really. I mean is it views that people want and figure separate means more image views and favorites? Or do they fear no one would notice that are multiple images within... what?

Anyway I just thought I'd make a journal about this instead of making another comment suggesting an artist puts it together. Again I know it is not required or anything like that, but still I mean... I dunno. Thoughts?
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Added: 7 years, 9 months ago
 
Salmy
7 years, 9 months ago
I think most people don't really notice x3 And well, we detected some flaws with that system, too. It's cool to use it to upload different versions of the same picture (like sketch, inking, color, background), and would be awesome for comics, too. We're working to improve it, and when we do, hopefully we'll be able to set some rules so people find it not only really nifty, but also so there will be a canon way to do it :3
Chu
Chu
7 years, 9 months ago
It might be cool if the site could generate a preview panel showing thumbnails of all files in a submission, and give the artist a possibility to set it as a default view when posting/editing a bundle? I don't know about others, but I often miss the alternative versions completely, unless they are mentioned in the description. ^^;
Salmy
7 years, 9 months ago
That'd be quite tricky and also heavy for the server and the results might not be so pleasing to the artist! But yours is a good idea. Maybe if artists made a 'general' thumb with several previews, people would notice that more. But as I said before, we're working to make this system better, and hopefully will come up with something! :)
Raukue
7 years, 9 months ago
Should consider the thumbnail maybe be to the left or right of the picture? Like if on the 2nd image it shows the first thumbnail on the left and 3rd one on the right? That might be more noticeable. While still keeping it under for quicker navigation to skip several images instead of having to constantly click the right one.
Salmy
7 years, 9 months ago
Yeah, that would be neat, I think :)
rwpikul
7 years, 9 months ago
One improvement for it would be having the link from "New Submissions" go to the first new image of the set when a set is updated.
Salmy
7 years, 9 months ago
Yeah, that too!
Sunkra
7 years, 9 months ago
I'd use pools for comics and multiple versions of one image really.

Oh, and one thing I still sorely miss is the prev/next button between submissions in the entire gallery like FA has. Now people would have to make one big pool of their entire gallery just for the comfort of their viewers. I've told the admins of IB this on multiple occasions and they tell me people just need to load every single submission into different tabs, but that's not keeping your customer's wishes into consideration. A lot of people have grown accustom to back and forth buttons between submissions in galleries, it's what makes a gallery a gallery. (Sorry if I went a little off topic, it's relevant still I think though.)
Salmy
7 years, 9 months ago
I actually think that's in the 'to-do' list. If you suggested it in a trouble ticket, it sure is! I agree with you that it'd be quite useful, and actually not so hard to implement at all! We just need so much more time in life to do everything we got to do!
AxleFurret
7 years, 9 months ago
Plenty of people notice, but on this site, it is laid out in a way that makes it hard to show off ALL your art. So some people see one image and think that it is the ONLY image, and completely skip the tiny thumbnails down below that link it to others in the same submission. A submission within a submission is out of the normal for most people.

I'm not sure, but I think you are also stuck with the same image comments and description you make about the first image and it gets applied to all others in that group... So even if you commissioned an artist for multiple images, each image may be different in content. Though the pools seem to work for that as it is, more or less, a sub folder of the main gallery.
Raukue
7 years, 9 months ago
Yeah, sharing the same comments and description is a bit of an issue but I am sure that is something they will sort out in the future. As for not noticing, just have to make it a habit is all, it is new to me to but once you learn to always check before closing an image then you see it. But ah well, I made a suggestion comment about the thumbnails to also be at the left and right of the image, that might help.
Salmy
7 years, 9 months ago
You are right. The multiple items in a submission is supposed to be mostly for when an artist wants to show different versions of the same work, or maybe to stick a lot of quick sketches that they don't consider worth having a submission of their own for whatever reason.

Pools are lots more better to organize stuff. They're even better than 'folders' because you can assign a picture to as many pools as you want.

What I meant above is that people is right that we have to improve the 'multiple items' submissions. Make its intention more clear and make its way of working better so people won't miss it when a submission has multiple items to them.
SenGrisane
7 years, 9 months ago
I love that function. I have not used it much, since I mainly uploaded finished stuff from my old gallery.
But I will use it more often in the future that's for sure.

Also love the pool thing. I can sort my gallery in neat little stacks this way ^^
KimiKins
7 years, 9 months ago
I hate it since I browse which pictures I want to see by viewing the thumbnail, by putting a bunch under 1 file, you could miss many pics that you would want to see buried under the thumbnail of one you don't
Circeus
7 years, 9 months ago
The problem is that there is absolutely no way to tell that a pic has accompaniments unless you watch it. That alone would be a good enough reason for me never to do it.
Alfador
7 years, 9 months ago
One important feature that should be added is an obvious way of knowing when a picture has multiple parts, just from thumbnail listings in gallery views or new picture views--perhaps an extra shadow or "pages under" border to the thumbnail, to make it visibly different from single-image submissions.
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