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Aval0nX

OHOHOHOHOOOOOOO this is awesome

so I accidentaly opened furaffinity (who does that nowadays anyway)

and amids the 50billion angry nazi mod PMs I find this little jewel

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Journal Removal: For those who watch me on FA
Sent By: modgoat to Aval0nX On: September 18th, 2012 03:46

Please refrain from advertising to material against FurAffinity's TOS. Consider this your official warning.
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on the journal I simply stated that I had moved to Inkbunny from FA, and I had a link to my inkbunny account for those who watched me back in FA.

my reply is groovy as usual

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ja wohl, mein Fuhrer!

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Added: 6 years, 2 months ago
 
Eviscerator
6 years, 2 months ago
*blink* Ah, FA...headinass as usual.
Lost
6 years, 2 months ago
Slowly, SLOWLY, deteriorating. Really, most of the people I still watch on FurAffinity refuse to migrate to Inkbunny because of the cub stigma. Question is, where will they go next once FA goes down?
MystBunny
6 years, 2 months ago
Why is everyone here so sure that FA will go down. I mean it wouldn't hurt my feelings in the least, but the sewage extract portion of the fandom will certainly stick around... and stink...
Norithics
6 years, 2 months ago
FA goes down regularly. One of these days, it's not going to come back up. There's only so much website you can run on apathy.
MystBunny
6 years, 2 months ago
Apathy, no. I'm saying it'll be run on hate.
Lost
6 years, 2 months ago
There's that. There's also the fact that when they kick out someone, it can cause other people to leave at some point. Like the people who watch your account or BBMBBF's account. If those were the two top people a person watched, they have no incentive to be on the site anymore. And considering the mass exodus since the no cub rule last year, this happened on a much larger scale. At some point, the advertisers or donors will just decide it's not worth spending money on the website, and they cut off their funding, and without funding, the website will shut down. It goes back to what you said. If most of the administration doesn't care anymore and the traffic continues to dry out, then why keep the website around?

It won't happen overnight. It will be a very slow burn before one day there's just no more FA.
climon
6 years, 2 months ago
It will always be there, because there is always some dumb ass who will toss them money. Always.
bahamutdragons
6 years, 2 months ago
Also, when you look at the numbers, FA didn't actually lose that many users since the whole cub thing (which started the general trend of hating mods IMO), nor did IB and SF gain that much.  Alexa stat tracking speaks volumes on that.
toketsukitsune
6 years, 2 months ago
Theres a rumor going around that a new site that is gonna be modded by unbiased individuals will be going up at some point on a privately owned server so no restrictions on art. According to the same rumors it will also have a blacklist feature hiding submissions tagged with a keyword you wish to not see.
MystBunny
6 years, 2 months ago
A site other than Inkbunny? Or was that a joke? O.o
toketsukitsune
6 years, 2 months ago
Yes inkbunny is kind of the the reluctant option to FA. This other site i was talking about i beleive is gonna be called weasle will be kind of like FA but with better mods and features.
MystBunny
6 years, 2 months ago
Inkbunny is only a "reluctant" option because too many people don't seem to be smart enough to block the "cub" tag if they don't like it. =( And the ones that are worried about reputation are only going to lose the respect of those same idiots.
Thanatos
6 years, 2 months ago
^ this
MystBunny
6 years, 2 months ago
^_^
ScottyKat
6 years, 2 months ago
Wesyl, Weasyl.. something like that.
eliteshyguy
6 years, 2 months ago
i have both and FA,IB&SF account but if FA somehow is gone for good that mean all the ppl i watch where just for nothing.:-C
vill33
6 years, 2 months ago
hahaha nicely done!
DansLittleFurs
6 years, 2 months ago
"Truly, these people are worse than Hitler."

I'm glad FA is going down, it's a poorly coded site.
SunnyNoga
6 years, 2 months ago
Advertising your account elsewhere gets you a warning? Dafuq?
Salvameer
6 years, 2 months ago
How was this goin aginst the TOS?
Bejurin
6 years, 2 months ago
they're all asshats, they think everything is a link against their TOS
turdferguson
6 years, 2 months ago
Becuse he was advertising his account on IB, which has the Babysitting Cream game, which is against their TOS. Also, IB in general has lots of cub stuff, which is against the TOS. So, their reason for deleting the journal was that it had a link to a site/account which contains material that is in violation of their TOS. Their logic is that even if the stuff isn't posted on their site directly, linking to a site that is filled with it is basically tantamount. It makes sense, even if it is a stupid rule to have in place.
pickleweasel
6 years, 2 months ago
Banning the linking of sites with content that goes against the ToS isn't a stupid rule at all. Whether or not said content SHOULD be against the ToS in the first place is another matter though.
turdferguson
6 years, 2 months ago
Sorry, I see how that was unclear. I agree, it isn't a stupid rule, and it is pretty obviously a necessary one. I indeed meant that whether or not the content should be banned in the first place was up for debate and, in my opinion, it is a stupid (or at least unnecessary) ban.
Delquea
6 years, 2 months ago
But you forgot one specific detail. You need to be a member of IB to even see said content otherwise it will be blocked out. Thus they gave him a warning for what cannot even been seen unless you're a member. So in short, they made an excuse in an attempt to freely ban someone.
turdferguson
6 years, 2 months ago
No, you just click on the highly visible tab that says Allowed Ratings. Granted, guest users are indeed restricted on default, but all you do is click the allowed ratings, check the boxes that say you are 18+ and agree to the rules, and check the boxes to allow nudity and sexual stuff. Any person can do that without having an account. So yeah, upon first clicking the link they may have a content ban/rating warning thing, but I imagine it would even say in that warning how to change the settings. Even if they don't spell it out, it is really easy to do. IB does not keep the content that is in violation of the FA ToS under lock and key, visible only to members. Anyone who changes the settings can freely access it. Thus, while it is a bit roundabout, the bottom line is that it was a link to a massive amount of material that violates their ToS. They are technically within their rights to have removed the journal, although it is also fair to speculate that ulterior motives were at play. It is hard to believe that they just happened to go through every single link on the site to make sure it doesn't in any way lead to stuff they don't allow. But this case is pretty cut and dry, even if their motives were shady.
Bejurin
6 years, 2 months ago
oh thats a GREAT awnser xD
Canastus
6 years, 2 months ago
ModGoat = fascist mod.
DragonPen
6 years, 2 months ago
Something we all know but Dragoneer is letting them keep power...bad idea.
Canastus
6 years, 2 months ago
It's amazing how he didn't get punished for banning all those sonic artists AND wiping their ENTIRE galleries despite them getting unbanned later on.
DragonPen
6 years, 2 months ago
Indeed. Funny how they are still in power even though they caused such an uproar. I mean they were basically purging art for no real reason other than their own dislike of said characters. What's worse is Avalon here advertised they moved quite some time ago.
KW
KW
6 years, 2 months ago
Speak up modgoat, your voice is muffled from your head being so far up your ass.
TheOtherHalf
6 years, 2 months ago
Wakka
6 years, 2 months ago
That's not surprising to me. FA is just plan sad. >_>
DragonPen
6 years, 2 months ago
Wait a sec...advertising you have an account on Inkbunny goes against FA's TOS? Since when? They have sections on your page set up for saying you have an account elsewhere. Methinks ModGoat is gonna cause more problems. Tsk tsk tsk.
turdferguson
6 years, 2 months ago
It's because his account on IB and IB itself all contain material that is in violation of their TOS. So according to them, linking to the material is tantamount to posting it directly on the site. It makes sense, even if it is a stupid rule to have in the first place. I don't think this particular action will cause modgoat any problems.
Artzilla60
6 years, 2 months ago
That's just sad....great reply though! :D
KeryoWolfe
6 years, 2 months ago
HEIL AVALON, MEIN FUHRER! *raises hand*
DraculJOSHI
6 years, 2 months ago
It bothers the hell out of me... why do english people keep misspelling Führer like that? Do english people not know about the ä,ö,ü in german?
KeryoWolfe
6 years, 2 months ago
Oh, we know it, but since it's not a common letter on the US keyboard, we're not gonna waste our time figuring out how to input it.
Canastus
6 years, 2 months ago
How about using "ue" instead? After all it's a legit alternative to "ü".
KeryoWolfe
6 years, 2 months ago
Because Fuehrer just looks wrong
Spuug
6 years, 2 months ago
Fuehrer is correct, though, if you don't have ü on your keyboard (or in your character set).

tsmith5143
6 years, 2 months ago
The only I can say is "WHO CARES?"!
Lunneziisuleyk
6 years, 2 months ago
" tsmith5143 wrote:
The only I can say is "WHO CARES?"!

Not trying to be a dick (even though I know that's how this will sound) but "I care."; this is actually something I care a great deal about. I hate letters that have no legitimate purpose (like the letter C in English it's ether {S} or {K}) & when people won't transliterate or transcribe properly because there too lazy.
Okay, again, sorry but you asked >> now I'll just shut up and go sit quietly in the corner.
ChakatStripedfur
6 years, 2 months ago
We do, we just can't always use the appropriate symbols for foreign languages.  Or more appropriately, we don't always want to take the time to get them from our symbol map and copy/paste them individually into the text.  At least he didn't totally misspell it, he just phonetically did. ;3
madrasalach
6 years, 2 months ago
furer is worse...
ChakatStripedfur
6 years, 2 months ago
Most of us read that the correct way anyway, but you're kinda right.  To someone that doesn't know any Deutsch, that would look like it was pronounced fuh-rer.
Kickinthehead
6 years, 2 months ago
Fur das reich des bosen, mein Fuhrer!!!!

this would have made me laugh about a minute longer than the 2 minutes i did. all that i could think of is u in shiny black boots with a sharpie hitler stash screaming your response
DraculJOSHI
6 years, 2 months ago
Please... no, just no...
not 'Fur das reich des bosen, mein Fuhrer!!!!'
it should be 'Für das Reich des Bösen, mein Führer!!!!'
Kickinthehead
6 years, 2 months ago
lol i dont type in german so i cant type all the accents
DraculJOSHI
6 years, 2 months ago
hell, I don't write in latin languages and I still use ñ,é,à,è,û etc. no excuses here... unless it uses a completely different alphabet.
Kickinthehead
6 years, 2 months ago
and you do realize I actually have a life that keeps me considerably more busy than taking the time to learn this. And ur kinda being an asshole. Go be superior somewhere else
DraculJOSHI
6 years, 2 months ago
I have no problem with people who spell wrong, but if you take your time to quote something or say something specifically, please take the time to do so as correctly as possible.
Kickinthehead
6 years, 2 months ago
once again I took the time to quote it correctly, but I didn't add the accents because A.) I don't know how and B.) because I honestly didn't care. Now being a grammar Nazi or a spelling Nazi is cute for a minute. Now I will grant I typed fast and did not use the best grammar, but I did spell it right. But seriously being an accent Nazi is just being a dick about it. If you want to do that go to FA. I'm sure they will appreciate it
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 2 months ago
In all honesty, i have to agree. Nobody gives a flying fuck about the accent marks. When read, you pronounce it correctly anyway, despite the marks.


Most of us simply dont care to take the time to do it right, because micro$oft buries the friggin character map deep in their start menu, and we dont want to hunt for it.

It's a fact of life.

However, in the event someone wants to be a complete asshole about those little marks, IB has been gracious enough to give us control. Ban their comments. Block pm's. Delete the comments. Do whatever you feel is necessary in order to preserve peace and order, just do it responsibly.
Kickinthehead
6 years, 2 months ago
Im not a big fan of the banhammer tho.  But thank you at least someone gets it
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 2 months ago
Ha! 20 points for the Banhammer ref. ^_^
Kickinthehead
6 years, 2 months ago
lol idk the refrence a friend said it to me once and liked it XD tht brings me points to 121
phyrexfirestorm
6 years, 2 months ago
Sweet. You know, if you save up 9999 of them, you are awarded a spontaneous orgasm. ^_^
Kickinthehead
6 years, 2 months ago
that be great :D
TidetheCat69
6 years, 2 months ago
Very sad, very. Much better over here.
ruink
6 years, 2 months ago
interesting.... the journal you had that told your watchers of our placement on Inkbunny was removed.  yup, FA continues to crumble
SexyRedPandaBoi
6 years, 2 months ago
Once Retardoneer starting Supersizing more ToS stuff,his site will go flatter then a Flat glass of pepsi
FuzzFace
6 years, 2 months ago
Na, more like flattened out by Bowser's fat rear. No offense to the almighty King Bowser.
FuzzFace
6 years, 2 months ago
The mod believes that because the link leads to material which is banned, (I.E, cub content on IB) that the link should be removed. Have a nice day!

Or, so this is how I'm preserving it as from the mod point of view.
turdferguson
6 years, 2 months ago
Exactly. They think posting a link to banned material is tantamount to posting said material straight to their site, and they are technically correct. It is still a stupid rule, but the fact is they have a right to have a no cub rule, even if people disagree and they are being assholes about enforcing it. So removing links to sites that contain cub stuff--or anything else that violates their rules--is perfectly legitimate.
FuzzFace
6 years, 2 months ago
FFF-Ethics and politics. I do find it amusing to see how far a corporate mindset will go to achieve it's own ends. As they say, "Many hands lessens the work," kind of goes paw in paw with, "Millions can't be wrong!" sure they can be wrong, all it takes is a mob mindset to set something in motion, then anything can be achieved.

I wish, and also wish that people did, and did not know about this. It's just unfortunate that as with a lot of things, something needs to give or budge for something else to make room. And in this case, IB filled a void outside FA. to that extent the deconstruction of structure that built it.
Laviavani
6 years, 2 months ago
Honestly, I really think people are getting too touchy about this. I can understand being angry because of being barred from displaying your art due to a TOS that previously was not there. But hey, theres other sites :/ I use this site and FA (used to use dA but quit due to lack of interesting art). Really I use FA to find really nice furry themed art and IB to find really nice adult art x) *Is probably throwing a rock in the hive with this comment*
thestarwarrior
6 years, 2 months ago
maybe if we are lucky, 2012 marks the fall of FA rather than the earth. :3
HappyPanda73
6 years, 2 months ago
I'm glad i never made an FA account.
vcom71
6 years, 2 months ago
I made an FA account just to play Xadera's Famous text game and then i found Fenoxo and the somehow i got to here so without FA i would never discovered die Lehrer, AvalonX
(sorry if i affend with my german, i am just learning and i havent gotten my der, die, das's down yet)
ScrapsSharpsplinter
6 years, 2 months ago
the only reason I still even use FA is because it has a bigger music crowd >.>
angel85
6 years, 2 months ago
you know, I remember when FA was first made, I figured it was a response to another site, Sheezyart, installing a "no porn" policy.  The site's tagline was even "where free expression reigns."  now here it is a few years later and they're banning certain kinds of porn.  I guess their new motto is "where certain pre-approved forms of expression reign."
Vickychan
6 years, 2 months ago
Haha, that reply is gold! It´s their own fault. I mean, they are banning a style. Something you can´t and don´t want to change all that quickly. They should have expected shitstorms and people leaving. And they feel threatened by the popularity of other sites? Weirdoes.
DraculJOSHI
6 years, 2 months ago
you mistyped that. Führer is written with a ü and not an u.
Woolfbeard
6 years, 2 months ago
Jawohl is one word not two. But who cares?
ColeSutra
6 years, 2 months ago
Man, I've heard of spelling nazis, but you take it to a whole new level.  ಠ_ಠ
DraculJOSHI
6 years, 2 months ago
I thought it would fit the journal XD
tsmith5143
6 years, 2 months ago
You sound like someone that would know.
DraculJOSHI
6 years, 2 months ago
considering I live in the german speaking part of switzerland... yes, I do know how german words are spelled... most of the time...
tsmith5143
6 years, 2 months ago
I stand corrected thank you.
VertFonsay
6 years, 2 months ago
Y'all need to relax, FA is far from the worst thing about the fandom. :P
keradi01
6 years, 2 months ago
Well this gave me a good laugh.
ShadowsInc
6 years, 2 months ago
it's funny, because there's a place in your profile where you can link to other sites you're on, and Inkbunny is something you can link to...
I think FA just hates IB because IB is better and they know it :U
piti166
6 years, 2 months ago
Correction: it's spelled Führer or Fuehrer
DraculJOSHI
6 years, 2 months ago
actually, ue/oe/ae are official, regular and often used replacements for ü/ö/ä, thus Fuehrer is actually correctly spelled.
jpeters
6 years, 2 months ago
perhaps this change in TOS is because the policy of credit card companies which is where the majority of the money comes from to keep the site and these are against sex with minors but to ban the account because she has a link that has this type of content seems overkill.
FoxonTheFox
6 years, 2 months ago
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gintsu
6 years, 2 months ago
lol FA you always make me laugh =p
xPitbullPetex
6 years, 2 months ago
Ahhhh...  The joys of being a non-artist member of FA...  I don't have to worry about my work (or links) being banned for (stupid) ToS offenses.

Unfortunately, there's a few artists over there I watch that haven't given up and moved over here yet, so if I'm going to keep an eye on their work, I have to keep my account.  With the politics (and basic ass-hattery) that issue might be resolved on it's own, though.
humbird0
6 years, 2 months ago
I can only assume they interpreted your journal differently.
But since they took it down and I can't actually read it anymore, I have no way to puzzle out how it could've been misunderstood.
CreamSonicfan
6 years, 2 months ago
FA never captured my attention, I went there a few times, but I never created an account, (I have one on SF).
To be honest from what I've seen and heard of it, it's not the worst thing about this fandom, but it is going down.
I myself love cub so I may be bias in saying this but they shouldn't be banning a hole catogory like that, and I think they have reasoning behind it, but a murderer also has a motive and reason, doesn't make it right.
all that being said, AvalonX here should be able to have his game there too, not just a link, but they sure as hell shouldn't get shitty about said link...
And honestly I hate censorship, I mean seriously, we see what we see, it's like if you walked into a little girls rooom while she was changing you'd see it all, there's no black bar across her chest, why should any of life be censored?
It's like looking in the bath and seeing a blurry stick where a penis should be, why is the cool?
What is the point, if people are shallow and despite enough to go out of there way to see a naked little girl, they will despite if you covered it on the internet or not.
Anyway, that's just my stupid rant...
And p.s. people if you use another language, do it right, but that being said, if someone doesn't, don't get hung up on it and correct it more then the necessary once. It's seriously just annoying if you do and makes you look weird and/or (for lack of better word) lame, (as in you have no life). (Just a side note on that, I did not mean to attack anyone with this and if you feel I have attacked you, I'm sorry, it was not my intention at all. That is all, thank you!)
cgiAlexis
6 years, 2 months ago
I dunno, I think it's fair enough because the mod knows that your material is going to violate FA's TOS anyway :). They're only trying to protect themselves from Fox News anyway :D
zalamier
6 years, 2 months ago
Funny story.  I play another game that charges 6.99 for the beta and 15 after the game is released if you didn't play beta.  They are a small group that work together and get an update out once every 2 weeks.  This is all while working on other games and doing the same with them.  Their updates are significant to say the least.  Great work.  How long have you been working on one game?  Yet you can post some stuff like this.  I think it's less of them being unfair and more about someone, not saying any names, being immature.  Get over it.  TOS was violated, you were warned, oh well.  The correct answer for that should have been "My bad.  Sorry about that.  It won't happen again.  Then bragging about the response.  Very disappointed.  You have a good life, I'm bored of the immaturity.  You have potential, don't let it get away from you by concentrating on other things.  Wish you the best and sorry that I won't see what you become but I know of other people with talent that can be professional and won't let petty things block them from their bright futures, so I'm going to help them out a little.  Take care.
tsmith5143
6 years, 2 months ago
I think there is one thing you are forgeting, AVal0nX is making this game as a HOBBY not as a job.
overfiend87
6 years, 2 months ago
lol what assholes. Just because they decided to suddenly say "Oh, you can't submit that art anymore" they aren't allowed to stop you from telling others about this wonderful, nazi-free site.
LiZ4rD
6 years, 2 months ago
Ahaha awesome work ;)
Shokuji
6 years, 2 months ago
To expect anything different is silly. =3
blackkingclaw
6 years, 2 months ago
i would take that offensive but i cant doany thing but laugh
Abschied Herr Schriftsteller
sexystallions
6 years, 2 months ago
Well done man !
madrasalach
6 years, 2 months ago
What the flying donkey fuck is wrong with you accent nazis? 1 person saying something is fine, but does every 3rd comment have to be about ü and ue? Fuhrer Führer and Fuehrer are all read the same by most people.
DevilLorenzo
6 years, 2 months ago
cmon avalonx, y can do better = y great by italian fan^^
CFWaffles
6 years, 2 months ago
I think the only downside I can see about Inkbunny is somewhat loose wording on the rules and no human-like character x furry getting it on allowed (though linking in the discription isn't off limits, unlike apparently FA). I mean is there any other problems with inkbunny? I can't see any at all... less trolling here, it's not a DDos magnet FA was (though I honestly question the validity of the attacks, vs. just plain horrible sever programming, I get a feeling it was more programmer error then down right DDos attacks)

but that's just my two cents there.
Lunneziisuleyk
6 years, 2 months ago
It's all good, here you're loved so here you'll stay *Spouts maniacal laughter*
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