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RoareyRaccoon

The Naked Lie of Leftist Empathy

Sha'n't bother with an essay this time around, so I'll make it as basic and short as possible (usually the best way to communicate ideas). The persistent demand from the left is that we as members of society are obliged to listen to, care about and eventually become a champion for a selective set of minority groups. These minorities are like little children, who can't stand up for themselves, so we need to condescend to them. In addition to this condescension, the feelings, needs, beliefs, lives, struggles etc of everyone not in these minorities is irrelevant. Do you find gay/trans/racial leftist activism offensive? Who cares. When anything YOU care about is being destroyed that's just tough luck, these little innocent minorities need to get what they want, however stupid or unreasonable is the demand.

A suggestion: Fuck off, grow up, be an adult individual. Speak for yourself. Nobody needs to care about you if you don't need to care about them, which you don't, so fuck off. All people deserve to have the perspectives they have without wondering when or if their lives will be crushed for it by some totalitarian hypocritical crybully fuckends who believe their garbage perspective is the only one that is worthy of continued existence.

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TylerLopear
2 years, 6 months ago
One of the main reasons I usually stay out of these topics is the stupid mentality of people both in the minority and outside that we need to be protected and can't stick up for ourselves.
The lack of self awareness baffles me. We can do stuff ourselves and should be treated the same as everyone else. Equality means we get the same as everyone else not that we get special treatment and the sooner people realize that the better. Honestly if someone has homophobic views then I'm more than capable of telling them I don't wanna hear what you think about me myself, I don't need some ass wipe politician who doesent actually have a clue what discrimination really is telling this person that they aren't allowed to think they way they do. I may not like their pov but they still have the right to think that way.
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
Indeed, and these activists give so little of a shit about the consequences of their actions that they don't realize that by pushing this minority crap on wider society so much is doing nothing except making wider society hate minorities. The BBC website, for example, is constantly publishing articles about gays and lesbians, despite the fact we are a tiny part of the population and there is a world of other issues that are far more important than who some random members of society are in bed with. The effect is that people will be sick to death of hearing about gay shit. I'm 100% gay and /I'm/ sick to death of hearing about gay shit in the media.
TylerLopear
2 years, 6 months ago
Same, it gets very old very fast and again the lack of awareness that trying to wrap everyone that is considered a minority in cotton wool is discrimination in and of its self.
Seriously stop making a big deal out of it we don't need protecting and we don't need to be the centre of attention all the time.
I actually had someone try and tell me that I was being offensive to the LGBTQ+ community cus I was acting in a way that gay people would find offensive. I thought they were joking...had to say, okay first off I'm gay and second even if someone straight was acting like this why would I find it offensive exactly?
Their answer was, well I've been told that it's offensive so it must be. :/
I mean really???
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
Lol yeah, as if offensiveness is a problem to begin with. I don't care if they're offended just as they don't care if anything they do offends me. Works both ways.
Triax7
2 years, 6 months ago
I wish there were more people like you, who stand up against this nonsense.

I’m straight and share your views completely - but because I’m the ‘wrong’ sexuality, I can’t express my views without being treated like a pariah.

Same goes for my views on race - I’m white, which is the ‘wrong’ race… so again, I’m not allowed an opinion (and I’m ‘privileged’ apparently). I often find myself wishing I was gay/black, just so I’d be allowed to express my views.
TylerLopear
2 years, 6 months ago
That's not equality. Everyone having the same rights and being allowed to express their views and opinions without being stepped on is equality. Putting one group on a golden protective stand above everyone else is still discrimination.
You and me are both people no different in that regard and neither of us is better or worse because of that. I wish more people would finally realize that.
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
Indeed, straight white men are consistently told to shut up, as if the very concept of you having a voice is impertinence, an affront. Being part of a minority is no protection, however, when you don't follow leftist dogma; you are stripped of your "membership" to whatever minority you happen to be a part of, viewed as a traitor for not thinking as you are apparently supposed to. And so you don't deserve a voice either. Resist all this shit and speak anyway.
Noah888
2 years, 6 months ago
I know. I wish there was something I could to to put a stop to Joke Culture.
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
There isn't something you can do to stop it, but you can help in its downfall. Using your voice, being brave about it, talking to friends and family about these issues. The more people discuss an issue, the greater the number of people also feel comfortable enough to discuss it. Bad ideas and bullshit rely on the silence of others to spread, so don't grant that silence and cultivate your own voice.
Noah888
2 years, 6 months ago
Definitely. Give me liberty or give me death.
axelthefox
2 years, 6 months ago
I find that some right wing people can be prejudiced as well.

Like there is on tv on fauxnews of right wingers using Transgender as a wedge issue.
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
Everybody is prejudiced, having prejudiced views towards whatever isn't an issue in and of itself. The problem is people who think their prejudiced views should reign supreme, that they are morally pure and get to tell everyone else what to do and what to say. We presently live under a leftist hegemony, authoritarianism from them pollutes our discourse, not conservatives. The right-wing authoritarianism that has a serious impact on our culture at present is coming from Islam.
AurumG
2 years, 6 months ago
People I've personally known for years, who know my situation, keep telling me what I need to support to fix the problems I face. Thing is, they never talk like I face those problems.They always become frustrated and hostile when I say their solutions won't make the situation better and sometimes may make it worse. They then say I need to stop being selfish and think about others.
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
Yeah, and I would say the greatest tragedy in all this is that by blaming society for our personal problems, as the leftist ideology does, what you actually do with that perspective is train oneself to feel entirely helpless. If society is to blame then you can do nothing, adapt to nothing, overcome nothing or cope with anything. It is ideological helplessness, a soul-crushing abyss. It's also complete bullshit, but that goes without saying at this point.
SqueakyBlum
2 years, 6 months ago
Hate evolves over time. It's no longer fashionable to overly hate people. The new trick is to be all about deflection and accuse *everyone else* of being full of hate. This then allows them to treat other people less than human in a "justified" way that leaves their social standing intact. It's an annoying trick that's taking society at large far too long to see through.
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
Yah, the fact that leftists never tire of shrieking about how hateful their detractors are while they behave worse than anyone else, treat everyone like absolute shite, is beyond laughable. They are a ridiculous joke.
SqueakyBlum
2 years, 6 months ago
Changing my stance slightly after thinking about this more. It's not that hateful people in the past were more open because they were being less sophisticated about it. It has to do with social dominance in a given generation. Back in the day it was pretty common to see this behavior among right-wing people: the topic of homosexuality would inspire immediate rage and an unwillingness to listen. You see that same energy in woke people today; they notice certain characteristics about you and then hate energy takes over and there is no discussion, only callouts and excited brainstorming about inventive new ways to hurt you and everything you love.

I guess it's a matter of what politics are popular and who it's okay to hate in a given point in history. This is what awful people are attracted to. Which is why I think you see so many terrible left-wing people today. It must be very attractive for angry, lonely people with no conscience: hate the unpopular thing of the day by pretending you're one of the cool kids and acting like you give a shit about popular talking points (hence the superficial, often condescending treatment of minorities you described above), get cheered on by others when engaging in harassment. Because apparently hate is okay if you aim it properly. It's gotten so bad now that you see people acting smug and proud about releasing others' private information and even getting them fired from their jobs.

This kind of broken discussion is very useful to corporate lobbyists and anyone else that wants to exploit the government. Everyone's too absorbed in the world of "who can be the biggest toxic shithead on social media" instead of thinking of ways to make the world a better place for everyone. We can't even have open and honest discussions about a *global pandemic* without these people turning it into a game of sick owns and clap backs. People are dying at an alarming rate but the most important aspect of the pandemic to many is finding ways of using it to "justify" being awful human beings to other people.

It's...exhausting.
KetMessner
2 years, 6 months ago
Roarey, people aren’t telling you to shut up because you’re a white man who disagrees with the Left.

They’re telling you to shut up because you’re an intellectually disingenuous fuckmuppet who does nothing but whine and bitch about the same tired things over and over again. No one would call you a twattish attention whore who thrives on drama just because you take offensive at gay activism if you didn’t also act like such a shitmouthed victim who can’t resist the urge to complain about shit that by your own admission shouldn’t even impact your self-interested ass.

Also I hope you don’t mind me calling you stuff like “intellectually disingenuous fuckmuppet” since overwrought name-calling does appear to reliably be your preferred means of discourse.
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
Intellectually disingenuous, yeah, good luck actually proving that. I'm just correct and lefties like you can't stand it.
LongTom
2 years, 6 months ago
If you don't like Roarey's opinions or the way he expresses them, why are you posting here at all?  You and he don't seem to quite share the same interests, if you know what I mean.
KetMessner
2 years, 6 months ago
I’m posting here because he posted it in public for all to see and in the interest of meeting his points head-on I took it upon myself to respond. If he doesn’t want me to respond, he’s within his right to ban me from his account.
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
You haven't met my points head on. You merely asserted that I'm disingenuous as if the mere act of stating something constitutes an argument XP. Everything you said was about me as a person, not points I had made, so now who is intellectually disingenuous?
Triax7
2 years, 6 months ago
We ‘whine and bitch’ about these things because they’re destructive and cancerous to society, and staying silent about it is a coward’s way out. I’d rather speak out and take flak for it than stay silent whilst everything around me goes to shit.

Am I going to make a difference? Probably not, but at least I’m doing something.
GreenPika
2 years, 6 months ago
You better tolerate our tolerance of the intolerant or you wont be tolerated! .  .  .  .  .  . wait. :/

From what I've seen, one of the major differences between the modern left and the alternatives is, the alternatives don't usually try to pretend they are being kind, peaceful and empathetic in the process of being intolerant.

As far as tolerance. People need to wake up and admit, there really are things that should and shouldn't be tolerated. If your group is tolerating murderers, thieves and leaches, you can't go around touting you are part of a positive and peaceful group. Get over it. The left has gone full darkside and full retard. You don't have to be a bible beating republican to be against hypocritical tyranny.  
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
Mm, claiming to be the "good guys" while it's their own team that's actually unabashedly treating everybody like shit, including those who are on their side.
GreenPika
2 years, 6 months ago
indeed, the treatment of the gay community is a perfect example. I spent years in the big city dealing with the politics of the gay rights movement. It all boiled down to one thing and one thing only: embrace communism and vote blue or gtfo. That's NOT gay rights. That's nazism hijacking a human rights movement. Like they always do.  
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
Indeed. Protesting for equal treatment in society, before the law, wishing to integrate into society as equally respected individuals. It also entails you wont deliberately try to fuck the society you wish to accept you. Marxists wish to overturn what our western civilisations are, what they represent and the foundations upon which they rest, so their presence in human rights movements is oxymoronic. Practically no other political philosophy gives less of a fuck about human rights, or human lives, than Marxism/Socialism/Communism. Fascism too, obviously, but we don't need to get people to recognize how evil that shit is, thankfully. People should have exactly the same revulsion for all the iterations of Marxist philosophy as they do for fascism.
GreenPika
2 years, 6 months ago
Lots of different names for the same thing. Hitler and the nazis were and still are national socialists. The left doesn't want people to realize it's the same leftist phenomenon as modern communism/socialism ect. One of the primary tactics of marxism: if people figure out you are a destructive evil trying to enslave humanity, change the name of your movement and lie about your goals. They didn't even bother changing their flag (antifa same as 1932 german nazi communist)
KevinSnowpaw
2 years, 6 months ago
I dont know if you can stomach rap or hip hop but if you CAN This guys got some really good work. talking about the same shit you've been saying. I'll post the lyrics below if you cant stand rap videos. He looks like a fucking mess but give him a chance XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCMwlorNEZk

" If you lie to the government, they'll put you in prison
But when they lie to all of us, it's called being a politician
You think taking guns away will save our kids from the killings
But your pro-choice abortion kills way more children
If America's so terrible and racist
It probably isn't safe to encourage immigration, just saying
All the contradictions are embarrassing
You know who hates America the most? Americans
Trigger warnings used to be on TV for seizures
And now they're everywhere to protect millennials' feelings
He, she, his, him, hers, them, they
Screw a pronoun, 'cause everyone's a retard these days
I hear 'em preaching at a protest that hatred's the problem
But hating straight men, white folks, and Christians is common
Coca Cola telling people they should be less white
They preaching tolerance but if you disagree, they fight
There's a race war here, elections based on fear
Black lives only matter once every four years
Soldiers died for this country and every one of us benefits
Give welfare to the bums and forget about the veterans
Black folks and white folks divided by the news
But we're all the same, we are red, white, and blue
Ashamed to be American? Okay, that's cool
'Cause honestly, we are all ashamed of you too
Y'all are so fake, oh no
The forecast said that there'd be snowflakes, whoa
You can't make us see it your way, no way
Gasoline and propane, more flames, oh no
No more snowflakes
They set us up to fail, that's what they built the system for
Put an ammunition shop across the street from a liquor store
Empowering women used to be different than this before
The role models got OnlyFans or dance on a stripper pole
Screw it, I ain't trippin', I don't mean to be mean
But if our children are the future then our future is bleak
They take an Adderall to focus, hit McDonald's to eat
They're addicted to phones and they take Xanax to sleep
They blurred the lines dividing communism and democracy
In 2021, we paint the patriots as Nazis
The men playing women's sports get trophies for winning
Like great, let's celebrate a man for beating some women
If you're black, your life matters, you're supposed to embrace it
If you're rich or you're smart then you're probably Asian
If you're gay, then you're brave, all of that I'm okay with
But if you're white, the stereotype is you are a racist
Blaming capitalism like that's the reason things are tough
While you tweet from an iPhone and sip on a Starbucks
You're supporting what you stand against, you don't think you are but
A Percocet addict don't donate money to pharma
Damn dog, we're all afraid to speak the truth
And the more afraid we get, the more we hate the ones who do
You're ashamed to be American? Okay, that's cool
'Cause honestly, we are all ashamed of you too
Y'all are so fake, oh no
The forecast said that there'd be snowflakes, whoa
You can't make us see it your way, no way
Gasoline and propane, more flames, oh no
No more snowflakes
We could all get along but there's no stopping, ayy
Everybody's wrong, that's a real problem, ayy
They don't wanna hear it, but they still talking, ayy
Soon enough we running outta options, ayy
This ain't gonna end 'til it's in a coffin, ayy
We ain't gon' be friends 'til we try to squash it, ayy
I don't know how we can make amends or we drop it
Snowflakes melt when it's hot, kid
Y'all are so fake, oh no
The forecast said that there'd be snowflakes, whoa
You can't make us see it your way, no way
Gasoline and propane, more flames, oh no
No more snowflakes
Yiffox
2 years, 6 months ago
how did I guess who that rapper was from first few lines?
KevinSnowpaw
2 years, 6 months ago
XD familure lyrics? I donno. Hes a bit abrasive but what rapper isent I find I.. actualy realy enjoy his music.
Yiffox
2 years, 6 months ago
just browsed a few things of his on utube 6 months ago and I have weird interconnective mind.  Don't even know his stage name.  To tell how weird my mind is...I had luggage seminar a decade ago where they played guess that tune to win stuff. I dunno know how, but my weird mind, but I guessed a beach boy song, not a usual thing I listened to on 1 note.  I won a nice $300 (on sale) carryon I still have.  Also weirdly I won a dvd player which was odd because the one I had died the day before.  This may be why I can write humor so well.  At my best, I was churning out 2 jokes a week in yiffox comic and yiff/dawg rules pretty much on the fly.  Like sit down and write jokes, whatever came to me for 3 years.
moyomongoose
2 years, 6 months ago
That song reminds me of a 1967 version of a song done by who was one of my favorite entertainers when he was alive, Sammy Davis Jr.
The song is "Don't Blame the Children", which I'm reminded of because hate, disrespect and self destructive behavior are often taught by the parents, or by other adults who children look up to as role models.
https://youtu.be/ttXtAKHRtlA
Farel
2 years, 6 months ago
I am gay, which is why some people assume for me to be left-leaning, but the recent years made me reject their ideology. The Freedom of Speech is a much more important to me, than if I'll be able to marry within my country.

That's what gets me about these politicians: "Yeah, maybe we'll legalize gay marriage. MAYBE! But we promise to censor your speech, and limit your freedom of expression for the sake of big corporations. Come on, why wouldn't you vote for us?!"
Cigarskunk
2 years, 6 months ago
Lack of empathy for others is pretty much a requirement to be a liberal since anyone with real empathy for others couldn't condone any aspect of liberalism.

The basics of empathy is to do unto others as you would have them do unto you - basically live and let live.

I challenge any liberal to say they wish to be treated as they treat others - not a single one wishes to.

Back when Obama was elected the usual idiots expressed concern that I wouldn't treat him fairly - I told them not to worry as I would hold him to the same standards they held Bush W to.

Surprise - they said that was unfair to Obama.

When Biden got elected, I made the same promise - I would hold him to the same standards and show him the same respect they showed President Trump and once again, they felt that was unfair.

That and everything else liberals do is the behavior of individuals with little or no empathy.
RoareyRaccoon
2 years, 6 months ago
It's an unfortunate contortion of language particular to the USA that "liberal" has become synonymous with collectivism/marxism. To be liberal by the meaning of the word is to be implacably against authoritarianism, the philosophy rose to enshrine individual rights. These socialist bastards are not liberals.
Cigarskunk
2 years, 5 months ago
That's the SOP of the left - contort, confuse and corrupt the language.

Fascists call themselves anti-fascists.
Racists claim that CRT isn't racist,
The party of women abuses, rapes and turns women into second class citizens.
The folks claiming to care for the poor only do things to help the rich.
jurann
2 years, 6 months ago
Ahhh, nihilism...
Legosi
2 years, 6 months ago
I'm more of a economic leftist. Other than that I just want a society where everyone is treated with basic dignity and rights yeah. No special treatment.
Legosi
2 years, 6 months ago
I find that a lot of rich and powerful politicians, CEOs and corporations gets it's fair share of special treatment.
LongTom
2 years, 6 months ago
How about celebrities?  They kept quiet about Bill Cosby being a rapist for fifty years.
Legosi
2 years, 6 months ago
Yeah, celebrities too. I forgot to mention, that I disdain the cultural elite too.
LongTom
2 years, 6 months ago
The irony being that so many of them talk about how much they care about poor people.
Legosi
2 years, 6 months ago
They do love playing the hero. Inside and outside the silver screen.
LongTom
2 years, 6 months ago
Which is fine if they actually practice what they preach, without being patronizing.
soopakoopa99
1 year, 11 months ago
This is a mistake that many righties make.

whenever a lefty says "i am standing up for the rights of minorities, and standing against racism" the right for whatever reasons seems to think that the left ONLY cares about minorities, and don't care about non-minorities, which is just nonsense. so many times i see someone standing up for trans people, and all the righties scream "SO YOU'RE AGAINST STRAIGHT CIS WHITE PEOPLE?! YOU FILTHY COMMIE!!!" it's just head ache inducing.the left cares about ALL HUMAN RIGHTS, but the right just can't wrap there heads round that, makes me think they are the ones who only care about whites. i mean, look at tucker carlson, and the guy who shot up that store in buffalo.
RoareyRaccoon
1 year, 11 months ago
Nope, the problem with lefties is that they keep insisting everything is a right, when it fucking isn't.
soopakoopa99
1 year, 11 months ago
such as?
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