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Infant abuse prevention. (vent)

I hate to live on a stupid closed mind town where all think its media fault for children abuse.

Someone tries to tell them that its a really complex topic to deal with since child are way too innocent and most of them cant tell a difference of something wrong and good

This not only involves sexual but physical too. Kids must NOT be forced to relate to they relatives if they dont want to, its a red flag if they suddenly become insane nervous around them. Some people are MEAN and can do a big harm on them without even notice. Cruel jokes do more harm than you may think. Building them a strong nature its just a stupid reason. Boys can cry, the should not be beaten just because you grew up with a stupid and abusive home education. Educating through violence will not create functional adults, just dysfunctional and trauma.

Love and dont be mean to children, is not they fault if they are naughty, it means their parents are irresponsible.

Yes, i was angry.

srry for this vent but im not so happy with this place just ruining all efforts from

psychologists to help on these matters.Thank to they stupid closed mind.

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Added:	2 years, 11 months ago 16 May 2021 00:28 CEST

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TheMRCAGDL

2 years, 11 months ago

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Oh my

BrieNoir

2 years, 11 months ago

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Most child abuse is done by close family members. It's not always physical it can be psychological as well with such things as "gaslighting". Where the guardian or sibling denys any wrong doing, put doubt on the other person and not themselves, claim they're always right, point out on things that the person did wrong or someone they know did to prevent them from going out or having freedoms.

Also another part of abuse is enabling. Giving the person everything they want even if it may be harmful. Such thing is buying nothing but McDonald's cause that's all they want. Giving them money to buy alcohol or cigarettes, rewarding bad behavior or buying something because of their bad behavior to get them to stop.

Child abuse is very complex and not just child abuse. Any kind of abuse goes un noticed because some don't even know they're abusing others.

Yiffox

2 years, 11 months ago

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not a very concise statement of what you consider "abuse."  My experience is there is abuse and there is discipline.  Kid's do some awful things somethings, and its hard for parents to react to that.  I severely injured 2 of my brothers when I was a kid, both directed at a brother 4 years older than me who was bullying me and somewhat sadistic.  (We had dinner with his 5 yr old boy in chinese restaurant, which the boy asked what the hot mustard was and he responded to take a spoonful with a chuckle, to which the boy was skeptical, because I, assume his father had done this to him before and he didn't trust his father.)  That is abuse.  However, he and my father and his grandfather practiced corporeal punishment.  We got beat with belt if we did something wrong.

I remember babysitting that brother's kid and I had to spank his 3 yr old daughter, and she turned around to me afterward and said, that didnt hurt, and I responded, DO YOU WANT IT TOO?  She shut up.  His kids were a JOY to babysit as an 18 yr old, except the 3 yr old couldn't wipe herself I found out. And going into bathroom, called out to me she needed wipes...I was like NOPE at first.

My sister's kid were time out, treating them like adults...they were arseholes...we went over her house, me my other brother, and kid was running around hitting us with wiffle bat, gone in 5 minutes.  Oh kids will be kids.  NOPE.  Kids need real discipline to show them how to behave, given with love, like I spanked a 3 year old where SHE complained it didn't hurt.  Never had to discipline his 7 yr old boy, he knew how to behave.

In fact, fondest memory of those kids.  I taught him chess, and was pulling my moves.  He still lost and ran away to hide under bed, crying, he will never be good at it.  I had to pull him out by leg and tell him how my dad taught me and I could kick his arse at chess now.  Gave him a lesson, you can be good at anything you want to put work into be good at.

Also have to wonder why home schooling is listed as stupid and abusive?  One must remember that's how things were done for thousands of years, but mostly teaching them father's or mother's trade or duties.  Even in industrial revolution, you sent boys off to be taught a trade.  My mum helped teach me how to cook.  My brother is now a professional cook.  She was always baking from her training as housewife as a kid.  I would love to teach kids.  I bothered by a local church a few weeks ago and kid was there and helped him sound out their pamphlet for day before services started, extremely fulfilling.

I think the underlying thing with children is love, which includes discipline, and teaching them what to be expected to them.

Lorethelostking

2 years, 11 months ago

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@ Yiffox

Discipline its not the same as beating your kid and not giving consistent rules.

Rules and responsibilities and a consequence on not following them is mostly the best way to educate, and yeah, the less you can do physical damage (like spanking, its a way to not harm kids, just let them react)

if you cant handle a kid, there are specialist who can help you, NO VIOLENCE

humiliation its what i call a bad way an unnecessary way to correct a bad behavior, only on few cases it may be the only way.

Yiffox

2 years, 11 months ago

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@ Lorethelostking

first smacking your kid with a belt is not beating them.  My memories as a kid...I knew when I crossed the line...it wasnt something told to me.  I remember hiding under bed till dad got home.  Didn't want to do those things again.

again you say no violence.  The parents who did that have better behaved kids.  As I said, you dont even need to do violence, the threat.  Do you want it to hurt to 3 yr old by me.  "specialists" srsly?

I would have to ponder humiliation as corrective to bad behavior.  I would gather it can be good, depending on behavior?

What's weird is that collective humiliation is a thing practiced by media if you don't have the right views.  You like Trump, we're gonna make you lose job.  You make joke about AIDS travelling to south africa...job cancelled.

Lorethelostking

2 years, 11 months ago

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@ Yiffox

I think you are not getting what i say.

Im not saying discipline its bad. And physical correction should be a last resource. Consequenses like taking away kids favorite toy, videogames, etc its a good way to let them know they did not good. All kids are different, my little sister its a good example on how physical doesnt always work (she its way too bad and rude to everyone)

As i said. Specialist do know how to deal with these problems.

Some kids get beating for being kids. Some get cruel pranks, some get humillated for adults fun.

Its not about discipline. Its about adults being jerks and doing mental harm to their kids for own pleassure. Most think is funny to make them cry or scare them and THATS what my problem it with "humillation"

Yiffox

2 years, 11 months ago

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@ Lorethelostking

Why do you think physical punishment should be last resort?  And why in hell do you think we should trust "experts"?

Lemme school on the history of who created the anti-physical punishment movement.  G. Stanley Hall was the founder of this movement, based on weird offshoots of recapitulation theory (which is wrong) which formed the foundation of much of psychology in the early 1900s.  Recapitulation is an evolutionary theory by Haeckel that we go through evolutionary stages as embryos.  Freud thought we went through sexual stages of supposed ancestors....hence the oral, anal, and genital stages of his dogma.  Jung thought we went through cultural states.  Hall expanded on this, saying we grow through states of civilization.  So you don't need to punish kids at all, they will naturally outgrow it, as they catch up to relived civilization standards.  This is your basis for don't spank kids.  It still persists in psychology today.  Oddly, its really racist.  It assumes cultures and civilizations are more or less advanced on some progressive scale.  It means black people (or any POC) will never achieve adulthood and must be treated as children.  (You can see this now, where people don't think black people can't ID's to vote, when they must have to them get jobs, cash a check, open bank account, drive a car?)  Yup, racist psychologists created a racist point of view.

Spanking kids is not abuse.  You spank kids out of love and should never be out of anger.  So your idea spanking children is wrong is actually racist.

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